HDR vs DOLBY VISION

[lildemon666]

Is there a big difference in quality? I'm asking cause Alot of UHDs are now supporting DV. My player is region free but doesn't support it and now I'm like should I buy a new player just for DV?

I hear everyone cheering for DV support.

What's the deal between HDR vs DV?

[AKORIS]

there's tons of posts about it but the bottom line selling feature seems to be this--

DV seems to fix the multiple imperfections of HDR10--

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by lildemon666

Is there a big difference in quality? I'm asking cause Alot of UHDs are now supporting DV. My player is region free but doesn't support it and now I'm like should I buy a new player just for DV?

I hear everyone cheering for DV support.

What's the deal between HDR vs DV?

As long as you don't have a Samsung TV, a Dolby Vision compatible 4K Bluray Player is worth the upgrade. You can still keep your current Blu-ray player to play your region locked Blu-rays from other countries.

[wxman2003]

The problem with Dolby Vision, is the manufacturers all tone map DV differently. For example, DV tone mapping on an LG OLED, is different than DV tone mapping on a Sony OLED. Both using tv-led DV tone mapping, and both look different. From what I have read from the professional calibrators, none of the manufacturers do it correctly to the specs of Dolby Labs. Sony is generally the worst, at least with the 2021 tvs that use tv-led tone mapping, as that was Sony's first attempt at tv-led. The 2022 A95K is better. You are better off turning off DV with the 2021 and earlier Sony's and watch as HDR10 instead. I have a Sony 65A90J, and watching as HDR10, instead of DV is generally better.

[Maax]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

The problem with Dolby Vision, is the manufacturers all tone map DV differently. For example, DV tone mapping on an LG OLED, is different than DV tone mapping on a Sony OLED. Both using tv-led DV tone mapping, and both look different. From what I have read from the professional calibrators, none of the manufacturers do it correctly to the specs of Dolby Labs. Sony is generally the worst, at least with the 2021 tvs that use tv-led tone mapping, as that was Sony's first attempt at tv-led. The 2022 A95K is better. You are better off turning off DV with the 2021 and earlier Sony's and watch as HDR10 instead. I have a Sony 65A90J, and watching as HDR10, instead of DV is generally better.

I find the same with my A90J.

[lildemon666]

I guess I will have to upgrade my player. My tv is a TCL 6 series 55" I bought back in 2019.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by lildemon666

Is there a big difference in quality? I'm asking cause Alot of UHDs are now supporting DV. My player is region free but doesn't support it and now I'm like should I buy a new player just for DV?

I hear everyone cheering for DV support.

What's the deal between HDR vs DV?

The truth is, NO!!

[avs commenter]

DV looks way more cinematic on my sets

[DAT_JB]

The first thing you should learn is that it's called HDR10 and not just HDR.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by DAT_JB

The first thing you should learn is that it's called HDR10 and not just HDR.

Indeed.

Dolby Vision *is* a type of HDR.

All Dolby Vision discs have a HDR10 layer.

There are other types of HDR, such as HLG, but they aren't used on disc.

[tcripe]

If your TV has poor tone mapping, then DV will definitely look better. If you have a high end TV it will be kinda hard to tell the difference.

[Vriess]

Personally I feel DV makes a difference for the better and not in a small way. It dials in the contrast and brightness levels and really takes the picture to the next level when done right. When I'm watching a movie that looks good in DV it feels like it's really optimized for my display.

You're going to hear a lot of opinions on this though.

[jess1581]

I'd be down with DV, but for some reason on my TV set to calibrated dark, the DV HDR triggers this dimming pattern. Scenes with medium to dark visuals the backlight dims more, daylight scenes or lit scenes the backlight brightens. It even reacts to moving lights like flashlights and panning shots example: outer space shot of earth orbiting the sun. The fluctuations just annoy me. My tv doesn't have local dimming, so maybe it's just a limitation, but why only on DV and only on Calibrated dark?

So far I've been just fine with HDR10.

[WITCHCULT]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

The problem with Dolby Vision, is the manufacturers all tone map DV differently. For example, DV tone mapping on an LG OLED, is different than DV tone mapping on a Sony OLED. Both using tv-led DV tone mapping, and both look different. From what I have read from the professional calibrators, none of the manufacturers do it correctly to the specs of Dolby Labs. Sony is generally the worst, at least with the 2021 tvs that use tv-led tone mapping, as that was Sony's first attempt at tv-led. The 2022 A95K is better. You are better off turning off DV with the 2021 and earlier Sony's and watch as HDR10 instead. I have a Sony 65A90J, and watching as HDR10, instead of DV is generally better.

I have a 2020 sony LED and didn't bother since it would have cost hundreds more to get DV on my player.

[weatherchannel]

Originally Posted by wxman2003

The problem with Dolby Vision, is the manufacturers all tone map DV differently. For example, DV tone mapping on an LG OLED, is different than DV tone mapping on a Sony OLED. Both using tv-led DV tone mapping, and both look different. From what I have read from the professional calibrators, none of the manufacturers do it correctly to the specs of Dolby Labs. Sony is generally the worst, at least with the 2021 tvs that use tv-led tone mapping, as that was Sony's first attempt at tv-led. The 2022 A95K is better. You are better off turning off DV with the 2021 and earlier Sony's and watch as HDR10 instead. I have a Sony 65A90J, and watching as HDR10, instead of DV is generally better.

I think it was fixed via a firmware update on my 21 Sony A80J. But generally I agree. Example is A Christmas Story, Movies Anywhere has it in DV and the 4KBluray has HDR10. The HDR10 looks much better.

[Derb]

I prefer DV for films & HDR for games.

My C1 OLED is similar to my previous 2020 Sony LCD with regards to Dolby. Though LCD can get brighter & preserve more shadow detail better than any OLED. On the flip, more contrast & Infinite viewing angles on OLED are better.

[avs commenter]

DV for videos games has always seemed completely unnecessary to me

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by jess1581

I'd be down with DV, but for some reason on my TV set to calibrated dark, the DV HDR triggers this dimming pattern. Scenes with medium to dark visuals the backlight dims more, daylight scenes or lit scenes the backlight brightens. It even reacts to moving lights like flashlights and panning shots example: outer space shot of earth orbiting the sun. The fluctuations just annoy me. My tv doesn't have local dimming, so maybe it's just a limitation, but why only on DV and only on Calibrated dark?

So far I've been just fine with HDR10.

You may have to change your DV mode. I have my DV set to "Standard" and it looks gorgeous.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

DV for videos games has always seemed completely unnecessary to me

Once 12-bit displays get to the mass market you won't.

Originally Posted by Derb

I prefer DV for films & HDR10 for games.

Fixed.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Once 12-bit displays get to the mass market you won't.

What makes you think 12 bit displays will ever come to the consumer market? It took well over 50 years to get to 10 bit. And as stated repeatedly, almost all humans can't see more than 50 million colors.