UHD Catalogue Titles Without Original Audio

[Markgway]

The following is a list of UHD titles that DO NOT contain an *original audio track (be it from a 35mm or 70mm print).

Additional info on where the OG audio has appeared may follow.

*By this, I mean audio that has not been further remixed from its initial home video source.

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1937
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (Disney: 5.1 remix). Disney BD (2009/2016): 1.0 Mono

1939
The Wizard of Oz (Warner: 5.1 remix). Warner BD: 1.0 Mono

1950
Cinderella (Disney: 5.1 remix). Disney BD (2012/2019): 1.0 Mono

1953
The War of the Worlds (Paramount: 5.1 remix). Criterion BD: 1.0 Mono

1955
To Catch a Thief (Paramount: 5.1 remix). Paramount BD (2012): 2.0 Mono

1956
The Ten Commandments (Paramount: 5.1 remix). Paramount BD: 2.0 Stereo

1957
The Bridge on the River Kwai (Sony: Atmos remix, 5.1 remix). Reissued with 2.0 mono

1959
Anatomy of a Murder (Sony: Atmos remix, 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix). Criterion BD: 1.0 Mono

1960
Spartacus (Universal: DTS:X remix)

1961
Blue Hawaii (Paramount: 5.1 remix). Paramount BD: 2.0 Mono

1962
Lawrence of Arabia (Sony: Atmos remix, 5.1 remix)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (Paramount: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix). Paramount BD (2017): 2.0 Mono
The Manchurian Candidate (Kino: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix). Criterion BD: 1.0 Mono

1964
A Fistful of Dollars (Kino: 2.0 downmix). MGM DVD: 2.0 Mono

1968
Barbarella (Arrow: 1.0 remix). Paramount BD: 2.0 Mono
Once Upon a Time in the West (Paramount: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix). Paramount LD: 1.0 Mono

1971
Duel (Universal: Atmos remix). Universal/BD: 2.0 Mono
Prime Cut (Kino: 2.0 downmix)
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (Warner: 5.1 remix) Warner/LD: 2.0 Mono

1973
American Graffiti (Universal: 5.1 remix, 2.0 remix).
High Plains Drifter (Kino: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix). Universal/DVD: 2.0 Mono
Serpico (Kino: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix). Eureka/BD: 2.0 Mono
The Sting (Universal: 5.1 remix). Universal/DVD: 2.0 Mono

1974
Murder on the Orient Express (Kino: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix). Studio Canal/BD: 2.0 Mono
Sugarland Express (Universal: 5.1 remix). Universal/BD: 2.0 Mono

1976
Marathon Man (Kino: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix). Paramount/BD: 2.0 Mono
Rocky (Warner: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix). Reissued with 2.0 Mono

1977
Saturday Night Fever (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
Smokey and the Bandit (Universal: Atmos remix)
Star Wars, Episode IV: A New Hope (Fox: Atmos remix)

1978
Animal House (Universal: DTS:X remix). Plaion/UHD: 2.0 Mono
Days of Heaven (Criterion: 5.1) LRCS stereo mix in a six-channel container
The Deer Hunter (Shout: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix). Studio Canal/UHD: 2.0 Stereo, 5.1 (70mm)
The Wiz (Criterion: Atmos remix).

1979
Apocalypse Now - Theatrical Cut (Studio Canal: Atmos remix)
Escape from Alcatraz (Kino: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix)
Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Ed. (Paramount: Atmos remix). Theatrical Cut (7.1 remix). Special Longer Version (2.0 Stereo)

1980
Airplane! (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
The Blues Brothers (Universal: DTS:X remix). Universal/DVD/LD: 2.0 Stereo
The Fog (Studio Canal: 2.0 downmix). Shout/UHD: 2.0 Mono
Friday the 13th (Paramount: 5.1 remix). Shout/BD: 2.0 Mono
The Shining (Warner: 5.1 remix). Warner/DVD (1999): 1.0 Mono
Star Wars, Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (Fox: Atmos remix)
Used Cars (Shout: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix). Eureka/BD: 2.0 Mono

1981
Dragonslayer (Paramount: Atmos remix)
The Evil Dead (Lionsgate/Sony: 5.1 remix)
Friday the 13th, Part II (Paramount: 5.1 remix). Shout/BD: 2.0 Mono
Raiders of the Lost Ark (Paramount: Atmos remix)
Thief (Criterion: 5.1 remix). Arrow/BD: 2.0 Stereo

1982
Blade Runner (Warner: Atmos remix)
The Dark Crystal (Sony: Atmos remix)
First Blood (Studio Canal: 5.1 remix)
48 Hrs. (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (Paramount: 7.1 remix)
The Thing (Universal: DTS:X remix)

1983
Jaws III/3D (Universal: Atmos remix)
The Meaning of Life (Universal DTS:X remix)
The Outsiders (Warner/Studio Canal: 5.1 remix)
Risky Business (Criterion: 5.1) LRCS stereo mix in a six-channel container
Star Wars, Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (Fox: Atmos remix)
Terms of Endearment (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
Trading Places (Paramount: 5.1 remix)

1984
Beverly Hlls Cop (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
Blood Simple (Criterion: 5.1 remix)
Ghostbusters (Sony: Atmos remix). Reissued with faulty 2.0 stereo
Gremlins (Warner: 5.1 remix)
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (Paramount: Atmos remix)
Paris, Texas (Criterion: 5.1 remix)
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (Paramount: 7.1 remix)
Top Secret (Paramount: 5.1 remix).

1985
Back to the Future (Universal: Atmos remix). Universal/LD: 2.0 Stereo
Cat's Eye (Studio Canal: 5.1 remix). Warner/BD: 2.0 Stereo
The Color Purple (Warner: 5.1 remix)
Rambo: First Blood, Part II (Studio Canal: 5.1 remix)
Red Sonja (Studio Canal: 5.1 remix)
To Live and Die in L.A. (Kino: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix)

1986
Demons 2 (Arrow: 5.1) LRCS stereo mix in a six-channel container
Ferris Bueller's Day Off (Paramount: Atmos remix)
Howard the Duck (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Labyrinth (Sony: Atmos remix). Reissued with 2.0 downmix
Pretty in Pink (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (Paramount: 7.1 remix)
Top Gun (Paramount: Atmos remix)

1987
Beverly Hills Cop II (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
Evil Dead II (Studio Canal: 5.1 remix). Anchor Bay/DVD (1998): 2.0 Mono
Fatal Attraction (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
Full Metal Jacket (Warner: 5.1 remix, 1.0 downmix). Warner/DVD (1999): 1.0 Mono
Jaws: The Revenge (Universal: Atmos remix)
Planes, Trains, and Automobiles (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
The Running Man (Capelight: 7.1 remix, 2.0 downmix) Paramount/UHD: 5.1 from 70mm
Spaceballs (Kino: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix)
The Stepfather (Shout: 2.0 Mono downmix). Shout/DVD: 2.0 Stereo
The Untouchables (Paramount: Atmos remix)
Wings of Desire (Criterion: 5.1 remix). LRCS stereo mix in a six-channel container

1988
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (Criterion: 5.1 remix)
Akira (Funimation/Manga: 5.1 remix (Japanese))
Beetlejuice (Warner: Atmos remix)
Coming to America (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
Midnight Run (Shout: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix)
The Naked Gun (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
Primal Rage (Vinegar Syndrome: DTS-HD MA 2.0 Mono downmix). Dark Force/BD: 2.0 Stereo
Rain Man (MVD: 5.1 remix). MGM/BD: 2.0 Stereo
Rambo III (Studio Canal: 5.1 remix)
Red Heat (Studio Canal: 5.1 remix)
Scrooged (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
Who Framed Roger Rabbit? (Disney: Atmos remix)

1989
Back to the Future II (Universal: Atmos remix). Universal/LD: 2.0 Stereo
Batman (Warner: Atmos remix, 5.1 downmix). Warner/LD: 2.0 Stereo; Warner/DVD (1998): 5.1 from 70mm
Christmas Vacation (Warner: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix) Warner/LD: 2.0 Stereo; Warner/DVD 2.0 Stereo; Warner/BD 2.0 Stereo
Do the Right Thing (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Field of Dreams (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Ghostbusters II (Sony: Atmos remix) Reissued with faulty 2.0 stereo
Godzilla Vs. Biollante (Criterion: 5.0 remix).
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (Paramount: Atmos remix)
Kickboxer (Lionsgate: 5.1 remix). HBO/DVD: 2.0 Stereo
The Little Mermaid (Disney: Atmos remix). Disney/LD(1990): 2.0 Stereo
Lock Up (Studio Canal: 5.1 remix)
Major League (Paramount: 5.1 remix). Paramount/DVD: 2.0 Stereo
Pet Sematary (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (Paramount: 7.1 remix)

1990
Another 48 Hrs. (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
Back to the Future III (Universal: Atmos remix). Universal/LD: 2.0 Stereo
The Doors (Studio Canal: Atmos remix)
Ghost (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
Goodfellas (Warner: 5.1 remix)
Home Alone (Fox: 5.1 remix)
Silence of the Lambs (Kino: 5.1 remix, 2.0 downmix). Arrow/UHD: 2.0 Stereo
Tales from the Darkside (Shout: 5.1 remix, 2.0 mono downmix). Shout/BD: 2.0 Stereo
Total Recall (Studio Canal: Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix). Eagle (IT)/UHD: 5.1 from 70mm

1991
The Addams Family (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
Backdraft (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Beauty and the Beast (Disney: Atmos remix)
The Fisher King (Criterion: 5.1) LRCS stereo mix in a six-channel container
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (Paramount: 7.1 remix)
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (Studio Canal: 5.1 remix)
Three Colours: Blue (Criterion: 5.1) LRCS stereo mix in a six-channel container

1992
Aladdin (Disney: Atmos remix)
Bad Lieutenant (Kino: 5.1 remix, 2.0 remix). Live/LD: 1.0 Mono
Basic Instinct (Studio Canal: 5.1 remix). Live/LD: 2.0 Stereo
Batman Returns (Warner: Atmos remix, 5.1 downmix). Warner/LD 2.0 Stereo
Dracula (Sony: Atmos remix). Reissued with 2.0 stereo
Reservoir Dogs (Lionsgate: 5.1 remix). Live/LD: 2.0 Stereo
Unforgiven (Warner: 5.1 remix)
Wayne's World (Paramount: Atmos remix)

1993
A Bronx Tale (Tribeca: 5.1 remix).
Carlito's Way (Universal: DTS:X remix). Arrow/UHD: 5.1
A Few Good Men (Sony: Atmos remix)
The Firm (Paramount: 5.1 remix)
The Fugitive (Warner: Atmos, 5.1 downmix) Warner/BD: 5.1
Groundhog Day (Sony: Atmos remix). Reissued with 2.0 stereo
Hocus Pocus (Disney: 5.1 remix)
Jurassic Park (Universal: DTS:X remix)
The Piano (Criterion: 5.1) LRCS stereo mix in a six-channel container
Schindler's List (Universal: Atmos remix)
Three Colours: Blue (Criterion: 5.1) LRCS stereo mix in a six-channel container
Tombstone (Disney: 5.1)

1994
Blown Away (Kino: 5.1 remix)
Chung King Express (Criterion: 5.1 remix)
Forrest Gump (Paramount: Atmos remix). Paramount/LD: 5.1
Leon: The Professional (Sony: Atmos remix)
The Lion King (Disney: Atmos remix)
The Nightmare Before Christmas (Disney: 7.1 remix)
Star Trek: Generations (Paramount: 7.1 remix)
Three Colours: Red (Criterion: 5.1) LRCS stereo mix in a six-channel container
Three Colours: White (Criterion: 5.1) LRCS stereo mix in a six-channel container
True Lies (Fox: Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix)

1995
Apollo 13 (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Batman Forever (Warner: Atmos remix, 5.1 downmix)
Braveheart (Paramount/Fox: Atmos remix)
Casino (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Heat (Fox: 5.1 remix). Warner/DVD: 5.1
Jumanji (Sony: Atmos remix)
Se7en (Warner: 5.1 remix). New Line/DVD: 5.1
Waterworld (Universal: DTS:X remix)

1996
Independence Day (Fox: DTS:X remix)
Space Jam (Warner: Atmos remix)
Star Trek: First Contact (Paramount: 7.1 remix)
Twister (Warner/Universal: Atmos remix). Turbine/UHD: 5.1

1997
Batman & Robin (Warner: Atmos remix, 5.1 downmix)
The Fifth Element (Sony/Studio Canal: Atmos remix)
The Lost World: Jurassic Park (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Men in Black (Sony: Atmos remix). Reissued with 5.1
Titanic (Paramount: Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix)

1998
Belly (Lionsgate: Atmos remix, 7.1 remix)
Blade (Warner: Atmos remix)
The Big Lebowski (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Mulan (Disney: Atmos remix)
Pi (A24: Atmos remix). Lionsgate/BD: 2.0
The Prince of Egypt (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Star Trek: Insurrection (Paramount: 7.1 remix)
The Truman Show (Paramount: Atmos remix). Plaion (IT)/UHD: 5.1

1999
Bringing Out the Dead (Paramount: Atmos remix). Paramount/BD: 5.1
Galaxy Guest (Paramount: Atmos remix). Paramount/BD: 5.1
The Green Mile (Warner: Atmos remix)
The Matrix (Warner: Atmos remix, 5.1 downmix)
The Mummy (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Star Wars, Episode I: The Phantom Menace (Fox: Atmos remix)
Stir of Echoes (Liongate: Atmos remix). Lionsgate/BD: 5.1

2000
American Psycho (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Sony: Atmos remix). Reissued with 5.1 (Mandarin)
Gladiator (Universal: DTS:X remix)
How the Grinch Stole Christmas (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Requiem for a Dream (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)

2001
The Fast and the Furious (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Jurassic Park III (Universal: DTS:X remix)
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (Warner: Atmos remix)
The Mummy Returns (Universal: DTS:X remix)
The Others (Criterion: Atmos remix). Studio Canal/UHD: 5.1
Shrek (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Training Day (Warner: Atmos remix)

2002
The Bourne Identity (Universal: DTS:X remix, DTS:X HP 2.0 remix)
8 Mile (Universal: DTS:X remix)
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (Warner: Atmos remix)
Men in Black 2 (Sony: Atmos remix)
The Scorpion King (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Star Trek: Nemesis (Paramount: 7.1 remix)
Star Wars, Episode II: Attack of the Clones (Fox: Atmos remix)
Van Wilder (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)

2003
Elf (Warner: 5.1 remix). Warner/BD: 5.1
Hulk (Universal: DTS:X remix)
The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King (Warner: Atmos remix)
Love Actually (Universal: Atmos remix)
Narc (Arrow: Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix)
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (Disney: Atmos remix)
2 Fast 2 Furious (Universal: DTS:X remix)

2004
The Bourne Supremacy (Universal: DTS:X remix, DTS:X HP 2.0 remix)
Friday Night Lights (Universal: Atmos remix). Universal/BD: 5.1
The Punisher (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)
Shaun of the Dead (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Shrek 2 (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Van Helsing (Universal: DTS:X remix)

2005
BloodRayne (Massacre: 2.0 Stereo only on Theatrical Cut). Alive/UHD: Original 5.1
Constantine (Warner: Atmos remix) Warner BD: Original 5.1
Doom (Universal: DTS:X remix)
King Kong (Universal: DTS:X remix)
The Lord of War (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)
Serenity (DTS:X remix)
Star Wars, Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (Fox: Atmos remix)
V for Vendetta (Warner: Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix)
The War of the Worlds (Paramount: Atmos remix)

2006
Crank (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)
The Da Vinci Code (Sony: Atmos remix)
The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (Disney: Atmos remix)
300 (Warner: Atmos remix)

2007
Across the Universe (Sony: Atmos remix)
American Gangster (Universal: DTS:X remix)
The Bourne Ultimatum (Universal: DTS:X remix, DTS:X HP 2.0 remix)
Hot Fuzz (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (Disney: Atmos remix)
Rambo (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)
Smokin' Aces (Universal: DTS:X remix)
3:10 to Yuma (Lionsgate: DTS:X remix, 2.0 downmix)

2008
Hancock (Sony: Atmos remix)
Hellboy II: The Golden Army (Universal: DTS:X remix)
The Incredible Hulk (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Iron Man (Disney: Atmos remix)
Mamma Mia (Universal: DTS:X remix)
The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Pineapple Express (Sony: Atmos remix)
The Punisher: War Zone (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)

2009
Angels and Demons (Sony: Atmos remix)
Avatar (Disney: Atmos remix, 2.0 donwmix)
Coraline (Shout: Atmos remix)
Daybreakers (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)
Fast & Furious (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Knowing (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)
Law Abiding Citizen (Anchor Bay: Atmos remix)
Push (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)
Star Trek (Paramount: Atmos remix)

2010
Despicable Me (Universal: DTS:X remix, DTS:X HP 2.0 remix)
The Expendables (Lionsgate: Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix)
Iron Man 2 (Disney: Atmos remix)
Kick-Ass (Lionsgate: Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix)
Red (Lionsgate: Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix)
Robin Hood (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Salt (Sony: Atmos remix)
Scott Pilgrim Vs. the World (Universal: Atmos remix)

2011
Captain America: The First Avenger (Disney: Atmos remix)
Conan the Barbarian (Lionsgate: Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix)
Fast Five (Universal: DTS:X remix)
The Lincoln Lawyer (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (Disney: Atmos remix)
Puss in Boots (Universal: DTS:X remix)
The Smurfs (Sony: Atmos remix)
Thor (Disney: Atmos remix)
Warrior (Lionsgate: Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix)

2012
The Amazing Spider-Man (Sony: Atmos remix)
Battleship (Universal: DTS:X remix, DTS:X HP 2.0 remix)
The Bourne Legacy (Universal: DTS:X remix, DTS:X HP 2.0 remix)
Cabin in the Woods (Lionsgate: Atmos remix, 2.0 donwmix)
Dredd (Lionsgate: Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix)
The Expendables 2 (Lionsgate: Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix)
The Hunger Games (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)
Life of Pi (Fox: 7.1 downmix)
Men in Black 3 (Sony: Atmos remix)
Pitch Perfect (DTS:X remix)
Zero Dark Thirty (Sony: Atmos remix)

2013
The Croods (Fox: DTS:X remix)
Despicable Me 2 (Universal: DTS:X remix, DTS:X HP 2.0 remix)
Escape Plan (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)
Furious 6 (Universal: DTS:X remix, DTS:X HP 2.0 remix)
G.I. Joe: Retaliation (7.1 downmix)
Lone Survivor (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Now You See Me (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)
The Purge (Universal: DTS:X remix)
R.I.P.D. (Sony: DTS:X remix)
Red 2 (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)
The Smurfs 2 (Sony: Atmos remix)
Snowpiercer (Lionsgate: Atmos remix)
World War Z (Shout: 5.1 downmix)
The World's End (Universal: DTS:X remix)

2014
Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (Fox: 7.1 downmix)
Divergent (Lionsgate: DTS:X remix)
Dracula Untold (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Hercules (Paramount: 7.1 downmix)
How to Train Your Dragon 2 (Fox: DTS:X remix)
John Wick (Lionsgate/Warner: Atmos remix)
The Purge: Anarchy (Universal: DTS:X remix)
X-Men: Days of Future Past (Fox: 7.1 downmix)

2015
Chappie (Sony: Atmos remix)
Concussion (Sony: Atmos remix)
Daddy's Home (Paramount: DTS: X remix, DTS HP 2.0 remix)
Fantastic Four (Fox: 7.1 downmix)
Jurassic World (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Pitch Perfect 2 (DTS:X remix)
The Revenant (Fox: 7.1 downmix)

2016
The Angry Birds Movie (Sony: Atmos remix)
Dirty Grandpa (Lionsgate): Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix)
The 5th Wave (Sony: Atmos remix)
Jason Bourne (Universal: DTS:X remix)
The Magnificent Seven (Sony: Atmos remix)
The Mechanic: Resurrection (Lionsgate: Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix)
Office Christmas Party (Paramount: 5.1 downmix). Paramount/BD: 7.1
Pride and Prejudice and Zombies (Sony: Atmos remix)
The Purge: Election Year (Universal: DTS:X remix)
Risen (Sony: Atmos remix)
Sausage Party (Sony: Atmos remix)
The Shallows (Sony: Atmos remix)

2017
American Made (Universal: DTS:X remix)
The Emoji Movie (Sony: Atmos remix)
John Wick 2 (Lionsgate: Atmos remix, 2.0 downmix)
Resident Evil: Vendetta (Sony: Atmos remix)
Rough Night (Sony: Atmos remix)
Smurfs: The Lost Village (Sony: Atmos remix)
T2: Trainspotting (Sony: Atmos remix)

2018
Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween (Sony: Atmos remix)
Hotel Transylvania: Summer Vacation (Sony: Atmos remix)

2019
The Addams Family 1+2 (Shout: 7.1 downmix).
The Gentlemen (Universal: Atmos remix). Entertainment in Video/UHD: 7.1

2023
Operation Fortune: Ruse de Guerre (Lionsgate: Atmos remix). Leonine (DE)/UHD: 7.1

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Feel free to add titles (or argue their inclusion) and I'll update whenever I can.

See this thread for a list of UHD titles with OG audio.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=322893