Apple Vision Pro 3D Thread - AVP supports 4K 3D

[starmike]

3D Movies available on Apple Vision Pro

Original post:
I'm watching the Apple WWDC keynote and the fact that this device supports 4K 3D is huge since 4K 3D isn't in the consumer space on disc. Any interest in this? Will it revitalize 3D?

[trialobite]

They spexifically promoted 3D movies while playing footage of Avatar Way of Water, and then had Bob Iger on to announce slexial collaborations with Disney.

Not confirmed, but fhis does seem loke the best chance we’ll have to see some of the unreleased Disney 3D titles.

I hate when people post things like this, but here’s a post I made on this forum back in January of this year, feeling pretty good about this speculation today!

Meta had a 3D movie streaming service 4-5 years ago under the Oculus banner and it didn't last long... but IF they want to try to get back in the video streaming game now that the Quest platform is starting to grow, they could be big enough to make a deal with Disney. I've been saying for a while though, that my biggest hope is for Apple to get involved. They already have an established relationship with Bob Iger. They're still rumored to launch a high-end VR headset this spring, with a cheaper (but still pricey) model to follow later this year or early next. That still might not be a big enough userbase to make rentals profitable, but from a marketing perspective Apple may want to have exclusive name-brand content that can't be played on a normal phone/computer screen.

[BluBonnet]

Definitely hoping Disney will now have no excuse for not making their movies available in 3D to everyone in the world at a reasonable price!

And if not... I still have my Japanese imports!

[AugieDog]

It would be awesome to be able to buy/rent 3D films on iTunes if this gets popular.

[MrChopChop]

Originally Posted by AugieDog

It would be awesome to be able to buy/rent 3D films on iTunes if this gets popular.

I agree but I doubt they will work on 3D TVs/Projectors. You will need to buy Apple’s (probably very expensive) headset to view them. Also you won’t be able to watch them with friends or family either.

[trialobite]

Originally Posted by MrChopChop

I agree but I doubt they will work on 3D TVs/Projectors. You will need to buy Apple’s (probably very expensive) headset to view them. Also you won’t be able to watch them with friends or family either.

Bumblebee is only official available for streaming on VR headsets. But, as they say… life, ah, finds a way

[Mobe1969]

Originally Posted by MrChopChop

I agree but I doubt they will work on 3D TVs/Projectors. You will need to buy Apple’s (probably very expensive) headset to view them. Also you won’t be able to watch them with friends or family either.

And if I can't play with full Atmos sound on the AVR, not interested.

[Talal86]

The price, though

I had very little interest in VR until recently, and mostly to watch 3d movies, but I was thinking of getting the Oculus (or whatever its called). but now this entered the picture, so I have to wait for impressions

[BLMN]

Originally Posted by starmike

I'm watching the Apple WWDC keynote and the fact that this device supports 4K 3D is huge since 4K 3D isn't in the consumer space on disc. Any interest in this? Will it revitalize 3D?

For the price of $3500 no.

Originally Posted by trialobite

They spexifically promoted 3D movies while playing footage of Avatar Way of Water, and then had Bob Iger on to announce slexial collaborations with Disney.

Not confirmed, but fhis does seem loke the best chance we’ll have to see some of the unreleased Disney 3D titles.

I hate when people post things like this, but here’s a post I made on this forum back in January of this year, feeling pretty good about this speculation today!

I would be interested in content released but i have a feeling if it comes it will be the same ones that are already out there like Mulan, Raya, Nutcracker, Pete's Dragon...

[Talal86]

for $3500 the visionOS better be more like the macos and let you download your own ripped files without a 'workaround'. not just support streaming services and apple tv/itunes purchases

[BLMN]

Originally Posted by Talal86

for $3500 the visionOS better be more like the macos and let you download your own ripped files without a 'workaround'. not just support streaming services and apple tv/itunes purchases

Apparently you can pair a macbook with it and mirror the screen into the headset but its unclear if any file can be run this way, apple is really tough when it comes to find a workaround for their devices.

[spider-neil]

How would you get the 3D information into the device? Would you have to upload your 3D movies to the Cloud and watch it that way?

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by starmike

I'm watching the Apple WWDC keynote and the fact that this device supports 4K 3D is huge since 4K 3D isn't in the consumer space on disc. Any interest in this? Will it revitalize 3D?

4K 3D isn't available period and I don't think it ever will be.

Apple Vision Pro can support lots of things up until it gets a release and then things will change a bit.

[starmike]

Originally Posted by bhampton

4K 3D isn't available period and I don't think it ever will be.

Well that's the question, isn't it? Apple demoed 3D on this device and said that the displays in each eye are 4K. So while they didn't EXPLICITLY state 4K 3D, wouldn't their demo imply that? They don't have to follow the 4K spec for this to work.

[spider-neil]

This may be my OLED 3D solution. I just need to figure out how to digitise 3D and get it into the Cloud. Actually, there is an extra step, the devise would have to be able to take 2 separate images and merge them into one 3D. Currently, my TV does that when I steam it.

Apple offering 3D movies on iTunes would solve a lot of problems.

[avs commenter]

My guess is this will be a different type of 3D than what you get in theaters and that could be a good thing

[BobbyMcGee]

Love that it can play 3D, but at the end of the day it is far too expensive for me to spend on a VR headset. Hopefully as time goes on, future versions will go down in price.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by trialobite

They spexifically promoted 3D movies while playing footage of Avatar Way of Water, and then had Bob Iger on to announce slexial collaborations with Disney.

I specially liked the 3Dsexial collaborations with Disney.

[Oboler]

Originally Posted by starmike

Well that's the question, isn't it? Apple demoed 3D on this device and said that the displays in each eye are 4K. So while they didn't EXPLICITLY state 4K 3D, wouldn't their demo imply that? They don't have to follow the 4K spec for this to work.

If the source isn’t 4K, I’m assuming nothing else matters. Even if Apple make a deal for 3D films in 4K for their headset, it would require studios to upscale their content. I remember one of the Pixar team speaking about this and the sheer computational effort to upscale their films to 4K was huge. It wasn’t the same as you or I simply running a file through some AI upscaling software. You’re not going to see a massive number of movies in 3D 4K even if it is done.

On top of that, I’d wager that Avatar 2 would weigh in at 80+ GB in 3D. Streaming that would be impossible for the average connection. (Mine only just manages HD, plus I have a limit of 500 GB per month.)

Finally, the price. It’s a proof of concept device and they know that not many will be buying it. Media companies won’t be jumping on board with exclusive content for very long, making it a rather expensive and shiny doorstop.

On the other hand, Quest 3 is strongly rumoured to be HD for both eyes. If this is the case, then the software is already in place and we can be enjoying our entire 3D movie collection straight out of the box in the same resolution as the disc they came on. And it’s “only” 500 quid.

Overall it is nice to see that Quest are reacting to Apple and Sony. It’s good for us consumers to have competition in the market and even better to see 3D film still supported and pushed as a main feature.

[Steedeel]

I see People referring to this as VR. It’s not, it’s mixed reality/AR. VR is 360 degrees full immersion.