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I, amazingly, don't have any of those on Blu Ray..... I was considering the Kino 4K of Needful Things but seeing as how the supposedly supierior TV is only 1080p anyway this set might be worth a look..... plus I was looking to upgrad emy DVD of the Mist
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I hope for a seperate release of BAG OF BONES. All other movies in this set I already own on BD.
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Yeah, I simply can’t justify it for two titles—RIDING THE BULLET, which only had one prior BD release (in Germany) that I don’t own, and BAG OF BONES, for which I own the nice French BD, but it would be nice to have English subs for it. Every other title, I own in equal or superior versions. Any precedent in Via Vision’s past to break up the titles in this box for individual sale down the road?
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I would not call the TV cut superior though, the pacing is a wreck compared to the theatrical cut and it's censored, sometimes with unintentional humor, framing is worse as well |
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Good to know, its not one of Kings adapations I am that familiar with..... The bluray will probably suffice over getting the Kino disc
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Ruined’s take is ruined. The TV cut is open matte, which is a shame, and yes, some “safe for broadcast” censoring/edits are in place, but it restores a whopping 71 minutes of material to far better match the breadth and scope of the 816-page novel. It will be interesting to see if Via Vision uses the more natural, untouched print of the TV cut found on the German Blu-ray or the ugly degrained and sharpened “uprezz” version Kino just crapped out.
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There is a reason that stuff was cut, and while you do get a better feel for the town with the TV cut, it turns a decently suspenseful theatrical cut into a snoozer Lifetime movie. An interesting curiosity, but better? Nah. |
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Thanks given by: | smurdleman (08-07-2023) |
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However, the director considers the theatrical cut his preferred cut, the director's cut if you will. The extended TV-cut was what was created solely for a cash-in, not the theatrical cut. The director intended the movie to only be a theatrical feature, but in creating the theatrical feature filmed a lot of material, the best of which could then be edited down to theatrical length - that was his intention, per the director. However, at the time there were a number of King miniseries that performed well on TV. So, after the fact, they offered a pile of money to take all the stuff that was edited out for theatrical run and put it back in so they could make some cash on the TV miniseries aspect. And that is all the TV cut is, a TBS cash-in; its not the director finally getting to restore his vision, because the director has stated his vision was the theatrical cut. While one may like the TV cut better (it is certainly a lot different), I just find it hard to do so based on all its faults; there are even parts where the censorship makes it hard to figure out WTF is being said by the characters (like the shit on the sheets scene) and the film moves at a snails pace, and it doesnt always make as much logical sense as the theatrical. Portraying the theatrical cut as edited down for monetary purposes is really not true - the director considers the theatrical cut his preferred version, and its actually the TV cut which padded up for monetary purposes - created after the fact solely to cash-in on King miniseries popularity. And in doing so, using cutting room floor footage that was not intended to be seen in the final cut by the director, in order to pad out the runtime for TV. Last edited by Ruined; 08-06-2023 at 04:08 PM. |
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Firstly, speaking only for myself, I always take a director saying they prefer a theatrical cut to an extended cut with a tiny grain of salt (unless they weren’t consulted in the latter at all, as in the case of Richard Donner and the LETHAL WEAPONs) because they’re often playing good politics—getting their preferred vision out without painting the studio as a bad guy in the process. Don’t shit where you eat, ya know? In the case of director Heston, on the disc’s audio commentary, he discusses scenes from the TV Cut he wishes had been retained in the theatrical version, so if neither cut represents his definitive vision, then I’m going with the one that most closely matches the effect of the novel, and the comparatively savage, “blink and you’ll miss it” editing of the theatrical cut ain’t it.
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Thanks given by: | smurdleman (08-07-2023) |
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I wasn't a huge fan of the novel. Usually I don't mind King taking his time (my all-time favourite book is It, lol) but the second half of Dreamcatcher felt so drawn-out, it was a bit of a struggle to finish. I may actually prefer the film just because it's more concise. And Damian Lewis' performance is hilarious.
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[Show spoiler] has to be one the biggest WTF?s of all scriptwriting time. The movie breaks my heart because I worship at the altar of Jason Lee.
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Thanks given by: | dallywhitty (08-06-2023) |
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