Value Electronics 2023 TV Shootout Evaluation event - Blu-ray Forum

Robert Zohn · 08-16-2023, 06:05 PM

We settled on the date and most of the planning for our September 30 - October 1, 2023 TV Shootout. This will be our 20th year for our TV Shootouts that is open to the public.

We just signed the lease at the same NYC facility we've used for the past 4 years. It's called "The Company, at 335 Madison Ave, NYC. The Company is luxury building that is across the street from Grand Central Terminal.

We have the entire 7th floor with a large conference room, full private restaurant, and a city block long outdoor balcony where we'll be serve beverages and some hors d'oeuvres.

I'll post our press release by the week of August 28th that will list our panel of expert judges and the list of the TVs that will be competing in the 4K and 8K TV Shootout Evaluation events.

It's also likely that I can have a small group of A/V enthusiasts to attend in person. My sponsor partner, Dealerscope magazine who takes care of most of the costs will charge a small fee to cover the breakfast, lunch, dinner and beverages that we serve to all of the attendees.

All attendees are also invited to our Press Conference at the end of each TV Shootout where we announce the results and crown the new "King of TV®"

Robert Zohn · 08-16-2023, 07:47 PM

Here's just a partial list of our panel of expert judges that are confirmed.

1. Phil Holland, Cinematographer/Movie Director Link to Phil’s Bio

2. Kenneth Almertica, Senior Technical Video Director Viacom

3. David Medina, Director, Encoding Services: Warner Bros. Discovery

4. Ilya Akiyoshi, Cinematographer

5. David Mackenize, Fidelity in Motion

6. Amanda Rosen, Cinematographer

7. Greg Tarr, TV Editor/reviewer for HD Guru

8. Brian Stout, A/V reviewer and editor

David M · 08-17-2023, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

It's also likely that I can have a small group of A/V enthusiasts to attend in person. My sponsor partner, Dealerscope magazine who takes care of most of the costs will charge a small fee to cover the breakfast, lunch, dinner and beverages that we serve to all of the attendees.

I am so, so happy to hear this. Seeing other industry people is all good but I really enjoy meeting the people who love this stuff as a strong interest.

Robert Zohn · 08-17-2023, 09:38 PM

I highly recommend tuning into Stop the FOMO and Brian's Tech Therapy live YouTube webcast about our September 30th TV Shootout Evaluation event!

Pagey123 · 08-19-2023, 10:44 AM

Looking forward to this! Although I would love to attend live, the fact that we can catch this livestreamed and/or rewatching later is a wonder of modern technology, lol. Thank you, Robert, for continuing to put these together year after year. Looks like a great panel, and hopefully we learn some interesting things!

djpalacios91 · 08-23-2023, 04:00 PM

Excited to see the results and process of this event. Thank you for making a livestream available!

Robert Zohn · 08-24-2023, 12:06 AM

Dealerscope, my co-sponsor has made 10 seats available on a first come first served basis.

Their is a fee of $100 to cover the breakfast, lunch, dinner, and the snacks and beverages they serve throughout the day, and in celebration at our Press Conference where we announce the results and crown the new "King of 4K TV®".

The following day we host our 8K TV Shootout Evaluation® event.

Robert Zohn · 09-01-2023, 10:03 PM

Very interesting and informative live discussion on our Sept. 30, 2023 TV Shootout Evaluation event.

Robert Zohn · 09-21-2023, 09:40 PM

Here's the link to the Press Release about our Sept. 30 - Oct. 1, 2023 TV Shootout Evaluation event.

Please watch the event live on https://www.youtube.com/@stopthefomo channel starting at 9:00am ET Sept 30th

FOMO will be arriving at our showroom with all of our calibrators this coming Monday, Sept. 25th and he will be doing many behind the scenes video interviews with the calibrators.

KMFDMvsEnya · 09-21-2023, 11:09 PM

I will be tuning in!

DDH · 09-22-2023, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Here's the link to the Press Release about our Sept. 30 - Oct. 1, 2023 TV Shootout Evaluation event.

Please watch the event live on https://www.youtube.com/@stopthefomo channel starting at 9:00am ET Sept 30th

FOMO will be arriving at our showroom with all of our calibrators this coming Monday, Sept. 25th and he will be doing many behind the scenes video interviews with the calibrators.

Since the 4K list is limited to the 65" size, there won't be any Sony mini Led in their range. too bad.
I would have liked a mini Led comparison of all these brands (Hisense, Samsung, Sharp, Sony and TCL). Missed opportunity.

Robert Zohn · 09-22-2023, 01:06 PM

We will also have a minimum of two and likely three 85" MiniLED TVs on display to be reviewed by themselves so we can all see the differences between these new premium 85" class TVs.

At this moment we are confirmed to have Sony's 85X95L next to Hisense's 85UX.

This is listed on our press release with lots more information.

Robert Zohn · 09-23-2023, 02:46 AM

Other than day 2 being our 8K TV Shootout Evaluation event we have few special nice plans. Here's just a little of what you will see and learn about at the 8K TV Shootout.

One of our judges is one of Hollywood's top well respected Cinematographer/Movie Director, Phil Holland who will present on what we can expect for the future of 8K and some very interesting technical elements of 8K HDR that are not commonly discussed.

Phil Holland is creating new Native 8K HDR content specifically for our presenters and panel of judges to use to help analize each of the picture quality attributes.

Here's the link to Phil Holland's Bio.

INdetectableMAN · 09-25-2023, 09:33 AM

Near-black flickering issues have been reported and demonstrated on all G3 units.

With that problem, it would be fair that the G3 will be left behind the QD OLEDs. Anything else with such a problem at WRGB would be unacceptable.

Simply put, QD OLED is technologically superior as it does not depend on of a white subpixel.

Robert Zohn · 09-30-2023, 03:11 PM

Our 2023 TV Shootout Evaluation event is just starting. Tune in now to watch the live stream.

batman2000 · 09-30-2023, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Our 2023 TV Shootout Evaluation event is just starting. Tune in now to watch the live stream.

2023 TV Shootout: LIVE King of TVs | Best OLED & MiniLED TVs - YouTube

You said micro led was going to be mentioned here where in the show was it mentioned?

Robert Zohn · 09-30-2023, 06:34 PM

On the panel discussion it was very briefly mentioned. MicroLED is still a few years away from becoming a main stream avilable TVs.

Robert Zohn · 09-30-2023, 08:50 PM

Kirk Out · 10-01-2023, 12:44 AM

Great event from value electronics glad I got to see from fomos stream

Robert Zohn · 10-01-2023, 02:31 AM

Thank you Kirk_Out, so glad you watched the live stream!

We have some very nice plans for tomorrow's 8K TV Shootout Evaluation event with a special guest speaker.

Also when the 8K TV ballots are all handed in and they move to the committee that tabulates the results we'll have a nice bonus evaluation. I brought Sony's 85X95L and Hisense's 85UX, two of the flagship premium 2023 85" 4K QD MiniLED TVs.

We'll position the two 85" TVs next to each other and the judges and our 4 professional calibrators and all of the attendees will discuss their opinions on the image quality and overall performance of each TV.

08-16-2023, 06:05 PM	#1
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Value Electronics 2023 TV Shootout Evaluation event We settled on the date and most of the planning for our September 30 - October 1, 2023 TV Shootout. This will be our 20th year for our TV Shootouts that is open to the public. We just signed the lease at the same NYC facility we've used for the past 4 years. It's called "The Company, at 335 Madison Ave, NYC. The Company is luxury building that is across the street from Grand Central Terminal. We have the entire 7th floor with a large conference room, full private restaurant, and a city block long outdoor balcony where we'll be serve beverages and some hors d'oeuvres. I'll post our press release by the week of August 28th that will list our panel of expert judges and the list of the TVs that will be competing in the 4K and 8K TV Shootout Evaluation events. It's also likely that I can have a small group of A/V enthusiasts to attend in person. My sponsor partner, Dealerscope magazine who takes care of most of the costs will charge a small fee to cover the breakfast, lunch, dinner and beverages that we serve to all of the attendees. All attendees are also invited to our Press Conference at the end of each TV Shootout where we announce the results and crown the new "King of TV®"

08-16-2023, 07:47 PM	#2
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Here's just a partial list of our panel of expert judges that are confirmed. 1. Phil Holland, Cinematographer/Movie Director Link to Phil’s Bio 2. Kenneth Almertica, Senior Technical Video Director Viacom 3. David Medina, Director, Encoding Services: Warner Bros. Discovery 4. Ilya Akiyoshi, Cinematographer 5. David Mackenize, Fidelity in Motion 6. Amanda Rosen, Cinematographer 7. Greg Tarr, TV Editor/reviewer for HD Guru 8. Brian Stout, A/V reviewer and editor Last edited by Robert Zohn; 08-17-2023 at 12:46 AM. Reason: fixed typo

09-21-2023, 09:40 PM	#9
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Here's the link to the Press Release about our Sept. 30 - Oct. 1, 2023 TV Shootout Evaluation event. Please watch the event live on https://www.youtube.com/@stopthefomo channel starting at 9:00am ET Sept 30th FOMO will be arriving at our showroom with all of our calibrators this coming Monday, Sept. 25th and he will be doing many behind the scenes video interviews with the calibrators. Last edited by Robert Zohn; 09-22-2023 at 12:57 AM.

08-19-2023, 10:44 AM	#5
Pagey123 Special Member Member since:Apr 2020 Location:Middle, TN USA	Looking forward to this! Although I would love to attend live, the fact that we can catch this livestreamed and/or rewatching later is a wonder of modern technology, lol. Thank you, Robert, for continuing to put these together year after year. Looks like a great panel, and hopefully we learn some interesting things!

08-23-2023, 04:00 PM	#6
djpalacios91 Member Member since:Dec 2016 Location:Caracas, Venezuela 4K collection:89 Blu-ray collection:165 Digital collection:48 Trading Score:14	Excited to see the results and process of this event. Thank you for making a livestream available!

08-24-2023, 12:06 AM	#7
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Dealerscope, my co-sponsor has made 10 seats available on a first come first served basis. Their is a fee of $100 to cover the breakfast, lunch, dinner, and the snacks and beverages they serve throughout the day, and in celebration at our Press Conference where we announce the results and crown the new "King of 4K TV®". The following day we host our 8K TV Shootout Evaluation® event.

09-21-2023, 11:09 PM	#10
KMFDMvsEnya Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2014 Location:UT	I will be tuning in!

09-22-2023, 01:06 PM	#12
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	We will also have a minimum of two and likely three 85" MiniLED TVs on display to be reviewed by themselves so we can all see the differences between these new premium 85" class TVs. At this moment we are confirmed to have Sony's 85X95L next to Hisense's 85UX. This is listed on our press release with lots more information.

09-23-2023, 02:46 AM	#13
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Other than day 2 being our 8K TV Shootout Evaluation event we have few special nice plans. Here's just a little of what you will see and learn about at the 8K TV Shootout. One of our judges is one of Hollywood's top well respected Cinematographer/Movie Director, Phil Holland who will present on what we can expect for the future of 8K and some very interesting technical elements of 8K HDR that are not commonly discussed. Phil Holland is creating new Native 8K HDR content specifically for our presenters and panel of judges to use to help analize each of the picture quality attributes. Here's the link to Phil Holland's Bio.

09-25-2023, 09:33 AM	#14
INdetectableMAN Active Member Member since:Feb 2016 Location:Hollywood	Near-black flickering issues have been reported and demonstrated on all G3 units. With that problem, it would be fair that the G3 will be left behind the QD OLEDs. Anything else with such a problem at WRGB would be unacceptable. Simply put, QD OLED is technologically superior as it does not depend on of a white subpixel.

09-30-2023, 06:34 PM	#17
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	On the panel discussion it was very briefly mentioned. MicroLED is still a few years away from becoming a main stream avilable TVs.

09-30-2023, 08:50 PM	#18
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2

10-01-2023, 12:44 AM	#19
Kirk Out Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2008 Location:Bay Area Oakland , Ca Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:-	Great event from value electronics glad I got to see from fomos stream

10-01-2023, 02:31 AM	#20
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Thank you Kirk_Out, so glad you watched the live stream! We have some very nice plans for tomorrow's 8K TV Shootout Evaluation event with a special guest speaker. Also when the 8K TV ballots are all handed in and they move to the committee that tabulates the results we'll have a nice bonus evaluation. I brought Sony's 85X95L and Hisense's 85UX, two of the flagship premium 2023 85" 4K QD MiniLED TVs. We'll position the two 85" TVs next to each other and the judges and our 4 professional calibrators and all of the attendees will discuss their opinions on the image quality and overall performance of each TV.

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