New Article from CNBC - Blu-ray Forum

greekjgg · 02-15-2008, 03:30 PM

http://www.cnbc.com/id/23183816

Just posted 15 min ago, doesn't include walmart news.

Is he a joke to say that HD Dud is clearer?

ezcobar411 · 02-15-2008, 03:34 PM

more digital download dribble. I hate hearing that crap

WimeTime · 02-15-2008, 03:35 PM

Questions from article:

1 Does the ps2 really outsell the ps3 still?
2.Is this guy freaking blind to think tha the inferior format (he says blu) is winning? Sound Better, PQ better? What the hell?

krispyjala · 02-15-2008, 03:36 PM

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Because just like that original format war, when an inferior technology beat out the other, it's happening again.

Yea, this guy is prolly a former red ant. What's he smoking?

Imakida · 02-15-2008, 03:38 PM

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the quality difference is clear: HD DVD is clearer, the sound seems better, the extras are sweeter.

Wow he's a pure fanboy. He is really bitter!

Blu Titan · 02-15-2008, 03:38 PM

Sour grapes froma red ant

getblu · 02-15-2008, 03:39 PM

The ps2 does indeed outsell the ps3. But this is the first month since launch that ps3 has beaten the ps2 (in North America). Infact, it nearly beat the whole market.

Proteus · 02-15-2008, 03:39 PM

As of January the PS2 does not outsell the PS3 anymore.

The mantra of digital downloads will be chanted high and wide from here out. It's where all computer manufacturers truly want the energy and people like Microsoft have the 'spin' routine down to a science that they can exploit to try and convince people that there's even a chance of it happening any time soon.

Reality?

Digital downloading won't be a viable alternative until well after 2015 or so. Internet infrastructure can not support it at all. Not even remotely. Even if every household had access to their own personal OC3 fiber backbone, it could not be done within our current system. Our entire internet would have to be restructured for the greater capacity and significantly expanded.

Don't count on it for high def anything for a very long time.

greekjgg · 02-15-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by krispyjala

Yea, this guy is prolly a former red ant. What's he smoking?

In prior posts he doesn't hide the fact that nbc is owned by universal and that his opinion is biased.

cartier · 02-15-2008, 03:44 PM

It is CNBC, subsidiary of NBC/Universal. This guy will change his tune once movies are released by Universal on Blu. "It turns out these movies use codecs and depending on how they were prepared impacts quality. After closer review it is obvious that Blu-ray offers superior picture and audio quality".

ezcobar411 · 02-15-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by greekjgg

In prior posts he doesn't hide the fact that nbc is owned by universal and that his opinion is biased.

he should've made reference to that once again

darkwing · 02-15-2008, 03:45 PM

i'd like to smoke what he's having

bdLuvr · 02-15-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ezcobar411

he should've made reference to that once again

remember it used to be "MSCNBC" I think

tim77586 · 02-15-2008, 03:47 PM

this is hard to believe that someone who considers himself a technology expert has this opinion

SomethingForKate · 02-15-2008, 03:48 PM

Where is this guy getting his facts??? OMG!

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HD DVD is clearer, the sound seems better, the extras are sweeter.

Is this guy comparing like for like titles or comparing the Superman Returns HD-DVD with Dracula Blu-Ray??!

It's nonsense like this that confuses your average Joe whoe then simply continues to buy DVDs and hopes they upscale well on his/her new £2000 HDTV!

I can't wait until Toshiba announce their first BD player and we can all move beyond the error that was HD-DVD!

SFK

radagast · 02-15-2008, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greekjgg

http://www.cnbc.com/id/23183816

Just posted 15 min ago, doesn't include walmart news.

Is he a joke to say that HD Dud is clearer?

I just responded to the email address for the article which is:

TechCheck@cnbc.com

This is how I responded:

"How can Jim Goldman think that his comparison of Blu-ray and Hd-dvd on an Samsung combo machine is a good way to judge the quality differences between the two formats? Is he really that stupid? Or is he a paid shill for Microsoft and/or Toshiba?

Goldman should talk to Hollywood insiders like Michael Bay, Steven Spielberg and others who know what they are talking about. Blu-ray, on a good machine, outperforms Hd-dvd in both picture quality and audio quality. The PROS in the tech industry know this too.

Furthermore, Goldman should read a couple of articles by knowledgeable people as to why there isn't really any such thing as HD downloads. It's a myth due to bandwidth restrictions. So-called HD downloads have horrible compression problems. It doesn't matter if the result is a 1080p signal, if too much of the data was lost in the process."

We really need to get some of our experts on this forum to email Goldman with better facts.

CptGreedle · 02-15-2008, 03:56 PM

Bad article. This guy is admittedly biased and thinks HD DVDs look and sound better. Once again he has had little or no exposure to true BD technology.
He also buys into the thought that downloads are ready to take over even though all the analysts say that downloads will not replace disc sales at all.

Z-Corp · 02-15-2008, 04:00 PM

That article made me lose my appetite. He is red all the way.

Ilka · 02-15-2008, 04:08 PM

Don't forget to vote in their poll at the bottom left of the page ...

Proteus · 02-15-2008, 04:14 PM

I think this guy may have just tanked his career with this article.

Talk about bad timing.

It truly shows he knows absolutely nothing about technology and how it works. Particularly, even basic things such as storage space and bandwidth.

I could forgive him on the subtle differences between VC-1 and AVC and the associated bitrate depths of each; however, this is just too much.

He has affirmed to the world that he knows nothing about his job.

02-15-2008, 03:30 PM	#1
greekjgg Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Trading Score:1	New Article from CNBC http://www.cnbc.com/id/23183816 Just posted 15 min ago, doesn't include walmart news. Is he a joke to say that HD Dud is clearer?

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02-15-2008, 03:34 PM	#2
ezcobar411 Special Member Member since:Dec 2007	more digital download dribble. I hate hearing that crap

02-15-2008, 03:35 PM	#3
WimeTime Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Indiana Blu-ray collection:209	Questions from article: 1 Does the ps2 really outsell the ps3 still? 2.Is this guy freaking blind to think tha the inferior format (he says blu) is winning? Sound Better, PQ better? What the hell?

02-15-2008, 03:38 PM	#6
Blu Titan Super Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Edo, Land of the Samurai Home Theater Gallery:42 4K collection:41 Blu-ray collection:2864 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:92	Sour grapes froma red ant

02-15-2008, 03:39 PM	#7
getblu Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Adelaide, Australia	The ps2 does indeed outsell the ps3. But this is the first month since launch that ps3 has beaten the ps2 (in North America). Infact, it nearly beat the whole market.

02-15-2008, 03:39 PM	#8
Proteus Power Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:SoCal PSN:CaptBurn	As of January the PS2 does not outsell the PS3 anymore. The mantra of digital downloads will be chanted high and wide from here out. It's where all computer manufacturers truly want the energy and people like Microsoft have the 'spin' routine down to a science that they can exploit to try and convince people that there's even a chance of it happening any time soon. Reality? Digital downloading won't be a viable alternative until well after 2015 or so. Internet infrastructure can not support it at all. Not even remotely. Even if every household had access to their own personal OC3 fiber backbone, it could not be done within our current system. Our entire internet would have to be restructured for the greater capacity and significantly expanded. Don't count on it for high def anything for a very long time.

02-15-2008, 03:44 PM	#10
cartier Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Pacific NW	It is CNBC, subsidiary of NBC/Universal. This guy will change his tune once movies are released by Universal on Blu. "It turns out these movies use codecs and depending on how they were prepared impacts quality. After closer review it is obvious that Blu-ray offers superior picture and audio quality".

02-15-2008, 03:45 PM	#12
darkwing Member Member since:Jan 2008	i'd like to smoke what he's having

02-15-2008, 03:47 PM	#14
tim77586 Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Seabrook,TX	this is hard to believe that someone who considers himself a technology expert has this opinion

02-15-2008, 03:56 PM	#17
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	Bad article. This guy is admittedly biased and thinks HD DVDs look and sound better. Once again he has had little or no exposure to true BD technology. He also buys into the thought that downloads are ready to take over even though all the analysts say that downloads will not replace disc sales at all.

02-15-2008, 04:00 PM	#18
Z-Corp Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Central Texas	That article made me lose my appetite. He is red all the way.

02-15-2008, 04:08 PM	#19
Ilka Member Member since:Jul 2007	Don't forget to vote in their poll at the bottom left of the page ...

02-15-2008, 04:14 PM	#20
Proteus Power Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:SoCal PSN:CaptBurn	I think this guy may have just tanked his career with this article. Talk about bad timing. It truly shows he knows absolutely nothing about technology and how it works. Particularly, even basic things such as storage space and bandwidth. I could forgive him on the subtle differences between VC-1 and AVC and the associated bitrate depths of each; however, this is just too much. He has affirmed to the world that he knows nothing about his job.

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