Ultimate Classic Rock - 145 Artists not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

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Ultimate Classic Rock - 145 Artists not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/arti...-hall-of-fame/

[Hitman Horton]

The Hall of Fame is a joke. When The Grateful Dead was inducted, their lyricist and numerous members were inducted. When Metallica was inducted, they were told that only members that had recorded with them were eligible. When KISS were inducted, they only inducted the original members.

To recap, the Grateful Dead got to induct a lyricist. Metallica only got to induct people that had recorded with them. KISS only got to induct four members. The other five members that had recorded with them were ignored.

They change the rules whenever they want.

[stvn1974]

Making fun of the RNRHOF stopped being funny decades ago. No Iron Maiden, Slayer and Motorhead and Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys and Justin Timberlake will all get in before them.

[Lemmy Lugosi]

I’ve been playing rock and roll (guitar, drums, bass, etc) for over 45 years now, and I live about 2-3 hours away from the RRHOF. You’d think I would be fanatical about visiting the place, but the opposite is true. I have no interest in visiting any of the ephemera or memorabilia; I have enough curated stuff that I have the micro-RRHOF throughout my home. Put it this way: I have hung out countless times with the Ramones. Why in the hell would I want to go visit their sneakers?

[fighthefutureofhd]

That article gives little credibility to the notion that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is lame, stupid, and a joke. Or anything else derogatory that could be said about them. I mean a good portion of the artists on the list are rather bland and don't seem to have moved the needle much in terms of music. Also, it's supposed to be an Ultimate Classic Rock article. Yet, it has Hole, The B-52's, Beck, Wilco, Sonic Youth, and INXS on the list. They're not "classic rock". But if we are going to include them in the list then there are far better and more deserving artists that should be on that list who aren't in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Artists such as Tracy Chapman, The Sugarcubes, Suzanne Vega, 10,000 Maniacs, Liz Phair, Pale Saints, Bjork, The Sundays, The Smiths, The Cranberries, Edie Brickell & New Bohemians, The Innocence Mission, Tori Amos, Gin Blossoms, Morrissey, Throwing Muses, The Judybats, Natalie Merchant, Alanis Morissette, Juliana Hatfield, The Blake Babies, Hootie & The Blowfish, The Breeders, Psychedelic Furs, Cocteau Twins, Rufus Wainwright, XTC, Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians, Guadalcanal Diary, and many, many others. The article may well be the joke of the whole thing. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame isn't any better though.

[Hitman Horton]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

That article gives little credibility to the notion that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is lame, stupid, and a joke. Or anything else derogatory that could be said about them. I mean a good portion of the artists on the list are rather bland and don't seem to have moved the needle much in terms of music. Also, it's supposed to be an Ultimate Classic Rock article. Yet, it has Hole, The B-52's, Beck, Wilco, Sonic Youth, and INXS on the list. They're not "classic rock". But if we are going to include them in the list then there are far better and more deserving artists that should be on that list who aren't in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Artists such as Tracy Chapman, The Sugarcubes, Suzanne Vega, 10,000 Maniacs, Liz Phair, Pale Saints, Bjork, The Sundays, The Smiths, The Cranberries, Edie Brickell & New Bohemians, The Innocence Mission, Tori Amos, Gin Blossoms, Morrissey, Throwing Muses, The Judybats, Natalie Merchant, Alanis Morissette, Juliana Hatfield, The Blake Babies, Hootie & The Blowfish, The Breeders, Psychedelic Furs, Cocteau Twins, Rufus Wainwright, XTC, Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians, Guadalcanal Diary, and many, many others. The article may well be the joke of the whole thing. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame isn't any better though.

The point is that there are many artists not in the Hall of Fame that many feel belong there. Your bias to the music you like will colour your judgement of the article.

[fighthefutureofhd]

I don't disagree with you at all in your statement. I believe a lot of it is true. However, any bias doesn't negate the fact that this is an article from Ultimate Classic Rock. And a lot of the acts mentioned in the article are, IN FACT, not classic rock. You will never hear Beck, Wilco, or Sonic Youth on classic rock stations. Not ever. They just don't fit into that genre of classic rock. That's not knocking classic rock. It's just pointing out an obvious truth. And that obvious truth mars the article's point and authenticity in what it's trying to convey.

It would be the same if the article by UCR was published in 2019 and bemoaned about Dolly Parton not being included or inducted. There is nothing classic rock about Dolly Parton. That's the point. I agree with the sentiment of the article. I just don't think it was executed well at all. And, yes, the perceived bias on my end does mar some of my points. However, any bias doesn't change the facts. Many of the people on that list are rather obscure and it can't be said they did much to change the shape of music permanently. I mentioned some obscure acts on my list as well. However, they did do something that shaped music; if they never existed, music wouldn't be the same. That is the difference.

I also mentioned some artists who, while successful, probably didn't move the needle that much. I get that and I would agree. That's on me and for that, I apologize. I guess one could make arguments in defense of those artists. Though there are always two sides to every coin. And to that effect, there is another side to look at. Music is not JUST to move the needle in its own art field. Music is also there to move people and change people's lives. If it does that it has succeeded. Even if it's one or two people. The change should be monumental, though. Some of the artists I mentioned did just that. I'm not sure about some of the artists the article mentioned.

They could have and it is simply my bias getting in the way. I'm just not sure I can quite buy it. I, myself, could've mentioned more artists that fit that bill. But that would bring in more bias and the artists are SO obscure that I know they won't get in and shouldn't. I hope this clarifies my original statement and intent. I believe we both agree on this subject. I just feel the article should've stuck closer to its original subject than it did. If you are a website talking about classic rock don't bring up some obscure alternative act or some dyed-in-the-wool country act. That may be me. Well, have a great weekend.

[Hitman Horton]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

I don't disagree with you at all in your statement. I believe a lot of it is true. However, any bias doesn't negate the fact that this is an article from Ultimate Classic Rock. And a lot of the acts mentioned in the article are, IN FACT, not classic rock. You will never hear Beck, Wilco, or Sonic Youth on classic rock stations. Not ever. They just don't fit into that genre of classic rock. That's not knocking classic rock. It's just pointing out an obvious truth. And that obvious truth mars the article's point and authenticity in what it's trying to convey.

It would be the same if the article by UCR was published in 2019 and bemoaned about Dolly Parton not being included or inducted. There is nothing classic rock about Dolly Parton. That's the point. I agree with the sentiment of the article. I just don't think it was executed well at all. And, yes, the perceived bias on my end does mar some of my points. However, any bias doesn't change the facts. Many of the people on that list are rather obscure and it can't be said they did much to change the shape of music permanently. I mentioned some obscure acts on my list as well. However, they did do something that shaped music; if they never existed, music wouldn't be the same. That is the difference.

I also mentioned some artists who, while successful, probably didn't move the needle that much. I get that and I would agree. That's on me and for that, I apologize. I guess one could make arguments in defense of those artists. Though there are always two sides to every coin. And to that effect, there is another side to look at. Music is not JUST to move the needle in its own art field. Music is also there to move people and change people's lives. If it does that it has succeeded. Even if it's one or two people. The change should be monumental, though. Some of the artists I mentioned did just that. I'm not sure about some of the artists the article mentioned.

They could have and it is simply my bias getting in the way. I'm just not sure I can quite buy it. I, myself, could've mentioned more artists that fit that bill. But that would bring in more bias and the artists are SO obscure that I know they won't get in and shouldn't. I hope this clarifies my original statement and intent. I believe we both agree on this subject. I just feel the article should've stuck closer to its original subject than it did. If you are a website talking about classic rock don't bring up some obscure alternative act or some dyed-in-the-wool country act. That may be me. Well, have a great weekend.

We have one classic rock station. I hardly ever listen to the radio but, I have heard Beck on that station. You have a great weekend too.

[fighthefutureofhd]

That's nice. I've never Beck on any classic rock station I've ever heard. And Beck certainly doesn't fit the classic rock programming. You say classic rock and beck doesn't come to mind. Neither does Sonic Youth or Wilco. But pick out one thing and ignore the rest. That's always worked so well for everybody.

[stvn1974]

I hate, loathe and despise Sonic Youth but they still belong in over 80% of the crap that is in there now. They are/were really influencial on most of alternative rock music. Same goes for the Pixies.

[Hitman Horton]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

That's nice. I've never Beck on any classic rock station I've ever heard. And Beck certainly doesn't fit the classic rock programming. You say classic rock and beck doesn't come to mind. Neither does Sonic Youth or Wilco. But pick out one thing and ignore the rest. That's always worked so well for everybody.

I read your entire post. I didn't ignore anything.