Sucker Punch's Ghost of Yotei (2025)

[doctorD]

New Ghost of...game. I can't wait. Hope PS5 Pro is not needed to run the dang thing.

[NARMAK]

I really liked Ghost of Tsushima overall but i genuinely am not sure if they did a good job setting up the story here. It left me confused whereas the first you knew it was a battle between the Samurai and Mongol invasion and the dip Jin makes against Samurai code to Ronin and ninja tactics. Here she kills a random guy, there's a poster shown off but because i don't read Kanji, i don't know what the heck it said. Given most players will probably be in English, the trailer didn't do a good enough job showing off the gist of the story but the Mt Fuji backdrop looked ace.

[VictoryAtNight]

Ghost of Yotei Reveal Trailer (Ghost of Tsushima 2) - YouTube

[dyne]

https://blog.playstation.com/2024/09...oming-in-2025/

Today we are so happy to announce Ghost of Yōtei, the latest game from Sucker Punch and the introduction of our new hero, Atsu.

When we set out to make a new Ghost game, we wanted to maintain the core pillars established in Ghost of Tsushima: playing as a wandering warrior in Feudal Japan, offering freedom to explore at your own pace, and highlighting the beauty of the world.

We also wanted to continue to innovate. To create something fresh but familiar, we looked beyond Jin Sakai’s story and the island of Tsushima, and shifted our focus to the idea of the Ghost instead. At Sucker Punch we love origin stories, and we wanted to explore what it could mean to have a new hero wearing a Ghost mask, and uncovering a new legend. This led us to Ghost of Yōtei: a new protagonist, a new story to unfold, and a new region of Japan to explore.

While we aren’t diving into story specifics yet today, we can reveal that Atsu’s journey takes place in 1603, more than 300 years after the events of Ghost of Tsushima. Our story is set in the lands surrounding Mount Yōtei, a towering peak in the heart of Ezo, an area of Japan known as Hokkaido in present day. In 1603, this area was outside the rule of Japan, and filled with sprawling grasslands, snowy tundras, and unexpected dangers. It’s a far cry from the organized samurai clans who lived in Tsushima, and it’s the setting for an original story we can’t wait to tell.

This is also Sucker Punch’s first game built from the ground up for PlayStation 5, and we’re excited to build on the visual foundation we established in Ghost of Tsushima by making the world feel even more real. We have massive sightlines that let you look far across the environment, whole new skies featuring twinkling stars and auroras, even more believable movement from wind on grass and vegetation, and more improvements we’ll share in the future. Our new setting also gives us the opportunity to introduce new mechanics, gameplay improvements, and even new weapons.

Our trailer today offers a glimpse into this world, but there’s so much more to show, and we’ll have much more to share in the months ahead, including details about Atsu’s journey and the people (and animals) she’ll meet along the way. We are forever grateful for the success of Ghost of Tsushima, and we can’t wait for you all to experience Ghost of Yōtei in 2025."

[King O.A.]

Really pains me that we may be moving on from Jin.

But I'm excited nonetheless.

[Darren75]

I was just thinking about replaying GOT. This has really got me in the mood now.

I'm fine with a different protagonist, Jin's story is over, there are other tales to tell.

[dyne]

1603 is the start of the Tokugawa shogunate.

[bradnoyes]

Been replaying GoT on PC. Love being back in the world but the repetitive Ubisoft template and unskippable cutscenes are reminding my why I never replayed it on PS5. Still love simply walking around the island, though. The audio and visual design is top-tier.

[Zivouhr]

Rifles in the game. Reminds me of Tecmo's game, set during that era.

The use of wind and leaves really adds visual energy to the backgrounds. Looks great graphically.

[ps3bd_owner]

Originally Posted by doctorD

New Ghost of...game. I can't wait. Hope PS5 Pro is not needed to run the dang thing.

It would only if they'd want people to buy it for the best experience, but that... That'll be on PC.

Nice to have a new Ghost game. PS5 is finally getting exclusives, even if it's just console-exclusives.

[heyadol]

Originally Posted by dyne

1603 is the start of the Tokugawa shogunate.

I wonder if the new "ghost" is Ainu, fighting against the Japanese.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

I really liked Ghost of Tsushima overall but i genuinely am not sure if they did a good job setting up the story here. It left me confused whereas the first you knew it was a battle between the Samurai and Mongol invasion and the dip Jin makes against Samurai code to Ronin and ninja tactics. Here she kills a random guy, there's a poster shown off but because i don't read Kanji, i don't know what the heck it said. Given most players will probably be in English, the trailer didn't do a good enough job showing off the gist of the story but the Mt Fuji backdrop looked ace.

The very first trailer for GOT didnt either. Everyone remembers the awesome E3 trailer/gameplay video, but people forget before that there was a teaser trailer shown that didnt tell us anything. Im sure more will follow.

[Warm Gun]

First game had a hot guy, but of course the woman has to be plain. Why is she wearing men's clothing? Female samurai is historically inaccurate. Seems to her benefit to dress like a woman. Would confuse them. She would get shit for dressing like a man everywhere she went.

Would also hope that western music isn't in the game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onna-musha

Onna-musha were female warriors, probably rare, but they wouldn't have stood out so because they served in units, weren't lone samurai wandering around, going from village to village, drawing attention to their male clothes and visible weapons for no reason.

[Diesel]

Wow, did NOT expect this to become an anthology type series. I would have liked to see more with Jin but his game and its self contained story is amazing, so I’m not upset. He is also getting a movie.

Looking forward to this new story, Sucker Punch does not get enough credit in the gaming community among Sony’s studios. They are probably my favorite, right ahead of Insomniac.

The footage looked gorgeous and said captured on PS5, not PS5 Pro.

[Leonidas King]

Originally Posted by King O.A.

Really pains me that we may be moving on from Jin.

But I'm excited nonetheless.

Tbf, his journey wrapped up fairy well in the original. I’m glad we’re getting a new character.

[King O.A.]

Originally Posted by Leonidas King

Tbf, his journey wrapped up fairy well in the original. I’m glad we’re getting a new character.

I thought there was still more story to tell. But I'm excited to see where this goes.

[Warm Gun]

Good post about that wikipedia and the subject, not written by me (obviously).

So here is the thing, you should read the 'talk' page on the wiki entry. Both terms onna-mush and onna-bugeisha are very very rarely used in actual historical sources. Personally the only time I have seen the use of these terms was on historical fiction books, never in academical works or contemporary sources. Tho Japan is not my area of expertise so I might have missed some of the more niche sources. IIRC one of the terms was even coined during the 60's or 70's by a japanese historical fiction author.

Female samurai exist in the sense that they were members of the samurai class, mostly as wives and daughters used as political tools in marriage arrangements. We do have some accounts of female 'fighters' in Japan but pretty much all of them are accounts of small specific groups of woman fighting in extraordinary circunstances (like helping defend a castle or a village), rallying and inspiring soldiers (à la Jeanne D'arc) or some corps of female only fighters associated with the defence of a castle or fortification (like the female courp that helped defend Tsuruga castle). You wont really find a connection or tradition between them, trying to force the very very very rare instances of female fighting or participating in war on Japan as something common or culturally established, even coining a term to describe them, is more of an anachronistic thing and in my experience something ideologically charged.

What is actually established and we do know is that some woman (mainly members of the samurai class or woman who lived in temples) were 'trained' to use some types of knives and/or most comonly received some very limited ammounts of training on how to weild the naginata. They chose that weapon as it gave them advantages due to ease of use, the lighter weight and its longer reach. The naginata itself saw its use on the battlefield fall out of favor because its not really a weapon useful on tight formations. Otoh its a great weapon to use when you are fighting in a small group in an enclosed space were your biggest objective is protecting a fortified position, such the entrance to a castle's inner building. This is mostly when woman were expect to fight and were we find the vast majority of examples of female fighters in Japan, when bandits or enemy soldiers were attacking their homes and the man were either fighting somewhere else or were already defeated in the field. Like a last ditch effort to prevent their capture or the sacking of their villages.

Edit: Forgot to say that the single most famous example of a Japanese female fighter, Tomoe Gozen, is actually probably a fictional or at best semi historical figure as the only source for her existence is The Tale of Heike, an epic poem compiled after her supposed death and the events the poem describes. Its actually somewhat close to the Iliad for us westerners. A partly historical/partly fictional tale of a war that happened decades or centuries prior to when it was actually written. I have even read some Japanese historians argue that her figure is a way of mocking or slandering the lord she served, like saying he was so weak he needed a woman to lead his armies and fight his enemies.

It's dumb as **** because it has zero consideration for social norms of the time, making the setting more pointless. In every public place she'd have to explain it again. The agenda doesn't care about logic. Have some Lady Snowblood and Lone Wolf and Cub manga examples of more sensible female fighters, but they include nudity. The Lone Wolf and Cub lady has disturbing tattoos on on her body, including a baby sucking on her breast, which makes the men hesitate at the worst moments. Obviously too racy for this fruity world. But even full coverage in feminine clothes and hidden weapon would have been far better than this bullshit.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

First game had a hot guy, but of course the woman has to be plain. Why is she wearing men's clothing? Female samurai is historically inaccurate. Seems to her benefit to dress like a woman. Would confuse them. She would get shit for dressing like a man everywhere she went.

Would also hope that western music isn't in the game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onna-musha

Onna-musha were female warriors, probably rare, but they wouldn't have stood out so because they served in units, weren't lone samurai wandering around, going from village to village, drawing attention to their male clothes and visible weapons for no reason.

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

Good post about that wikipedia and the subject, not written by me (obviously).



It's dumb as **** because it has zero consideration for social norms of the time, making the setting more pointless. In every public place she'd have to explain it again. The agenda doesn't care about logic. Have some Lady Snowblood and Lone Wolf and Cub manga examples of more sensible female fighters, but they include nudity. The Lone Wolf and Cub lady has disturbing tattoos on on her body, including a baby sucking on her breast, which makes the men hesitate at the worst moments. Obviously too racy for this fruity world. But even full coverage in feminine clothes and hidden weapon would have been far better than this bullshit.

What’s it like to be so mad about stuff all the time?

The game was announced less than five hours ago and we know slightly more than nothing about it besides the setting and character’s name. Maybe wait until we have actual information about it before getting all up in arms over stuff?

[Nunab18]

Originally Posted by Diesel

What’s it like to be so mad about stuff all the time?

The game was announced less than five hours ago and we know slightly more than nothing about it besides the setting and character’s name. Maybe wait until we have actual information about it before getting all up in arms over stuff?

This game is also set in Hokkaido, years before it officially became part of Japan. They could essentially portray it as the wild west, show some crazy stuff outside societal norms.

[Blu Lemmy]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

Good post about that wikipedia and the subject, not written by me (obviously).



It's dumb as **** because it has zero consideration for social norms of the time, making the setting more pointless. In every public place she'd have to explain it again. The agenda doesn't care about logic. Have some Lady Snowblood and Lone Wolf and Cub manga examples of more sensible female fighters, but they include nudity. The Lone Wolf and Cub lady has disturbing tattoos on on her body, including a baby sucking on her breast, which makes the men hesitate at the worst moments. Obviously too racy for this fruity world. But even full coverage in feminine clothes and hidden weapon would have been far better than this bullshit.

You'll be moving on from this thread then.