Star Trek Voyager

[mwynn]

Like Deep Space Nine, there is a dedicated channel on Pluto for this show.

The amount of times that the ship is taken over and the crew, put off the ship is interesting. They also did the the crew has new memories a few times.

I thought the copies episode was pretty interesting. Yet plays into which crew were we following for a few episodes.

[John1701D]

I know Voyager has it's fans but it's easily my least favorite. What a bungled opportunity. This could have been great. Don't integrate the Maquis so quickly. Make it seem like the crew was really desperate and hungry sometimes. No whole season on the worthless Kazon. The ship needed to look really battered by the end.

[JamesKurtovich]

Enterprise had a season where they did Voyager better than Voyager.

[BluBonnet]

Voyager was pretty dope!

[Josep5349]

Out of 172 episodes, there’s maybe only around 20 or so I’d say are decent and would maybe watch again.

[BluBonnet]

I thought all the episodes were decent. But then again, I just love the Trek.

[MarcelS1]

Originally Posted by Josep5349

Out of 172 episodes, there’s maybe only around 20 or so I’d say are decent and would maybe watch again.

I too thought Voyager was mostly hit and miss througout every season, except maybe for season 4, that is the best season in my opinion.
I would say 35% strong episodes. Still, I enjoyed my recent rewatch because of the many character moments.

[Telemachus]

Voyager has my favorite finale in any Trek show, in a rewatch I'm mostly just hitting the Borg episodes, that episode with alt timeline Geordi and the Q episodes even though a couple are shamefully bad, there are a lot of boring lifeform of the week episodes and let's help someone instead of getting home early episodes that I remember.

[CouncilSpectre]

They made a big song and dance about being decades away from home and them needing to head back straight away, and a few episodes later they're stopping off to check out a nebula cos Janeway needs her coffee.....

I didn't think it was anywhere near the level of TNG or DS9 but it certainly had some great episodes along the way. Quite a few really bad one as well though.

[starmike]

Yeah, Voyager was definitely a missed opportunity. It was a great concept, but fell flat in execution. Voyager suffered from the technobabble solutions of the time, too. Same thing in the later seasons of TNG.

[JohnCarpenterLives]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Enterprise had a season where they did Voyager better than Voyager.

Enterprise is better than Voyager.

[mwynn]

Also what was with some many episodes featuring Barclay? Also the multiple episodes with signing? Yet the weirdest situation was linking Chakotay and Seven out of nowhere.

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by John1701D

I know Voyager has it's fans but it's easily my least favorite. What a bungled opportunity. This could have been great. Don't integrate the Maquis so quickly. Make it seem like the crew was really desperate and hungry sometimes. No whole season on the worthless Kazon. The ship needed to look really battered by the end.

They did one episodes with a few who were not playing nice. Then there was the ones left over from The Equinox. They just vanished into the background. Also the Borg baby that they forgot about in the same episode they introduced it.

[Moviefan2k4]

I like most of Voyager - my favorite characters were Tom Paris, B'Elanna Torres, Neelix, Tuvok, the Doctor, and Seven of Nine. People say that Jeri Ryan was only cast to be a pin-up, but I disagree. While I won't deny that I found her insanely attractive as a 17-year-old boy, she quickly grew to be much more than a fantasy or sex symbol. Some of the best episodes to involve the Borg were devoted to her backstory, and Jeri was excellent in portraying a woman struggling with the most difficult split personality imaginable. When they first included her in the Picard series, my first reaction was "that is genius, because she's the only one who knows what it's like to be unmade, as much as the Captain himself." And her experience lasted far longer than his, so her trauma is on a completely different level.

[BluVinyl]

I always loved Voyager. The traveling across the galaxy was a great concept. My favorite out of the mid Trek (TNG, DS9, Voyager) series.

[CouncilSpectre]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I like most of Voyager - my favorite characters were Tom Paris, B'Elanna Torres, Neelix, Tuvok, the Doctor, and Seven of Nine. People say that Jeri Ryan was only cast to be a pin-up, but I disagree. While I won't deny that I found her insanely attractive as a 17-year-old boy, she quickly grew to be much more than a fantasy or sex symbol. Some of the best episodes to involve the Borg were devoted to her backstory, and Jeri was excellent in portraying a woman struggling with the most difficult split personality imaginable. When they first included her in the Picard series, my first reaction was "that is genius, because she's the only one who knows what it's like to be unmade, as much as the Captain himself." And her experience lasted far longer than his, so her trauma is on a completely different level.

Seven was the best character on the show IMO, and it had very little to do with her looks. Of course they didn't hurt either, but that was just a bonus.

[Tim n Tempe]

Originally Posted by Josep5349

Out of 172 episodes, there’s maybe only around 20 or so I’d say are decent and would maybe watch again.

That is pretty much it. In fact, I'm going to run with this idea.
Check my 20 favorite episodes and keep the rest to a foggy memory at best.
Life is too short.


For the record, there are about a 10 episodes of TOS I will never watch again....and I absolutely love that series.

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I like most of Voyager - my favorite characters were Tom Paris, B'Elanna Torres, Neelix, Tuvok, the Doctor, and Seven of Nine. People say that Jeri Ryan was only cast to be a pin-up, but I disagree. While I won't deny that I found her insanely attractive as a 17-year-old boy, she quickly grew to be much more than a fantasy or sex symbol. Some of the best episodes to involve the Borg were devoted to her backstory, and Jeri was excellent in portraying a woman struggling with the most difficult split personality imaginable. When they first included her in the Picard series, my first reaction was "that is genius, because she's the only one who knows what it's like to be unmade, as much as the Captain himself." And her experience lasted far longer than his, so her trauma is on a completely different level.

Kate had a problem with her, she thought she took over the show.

[BiggusDickus]

I only caught a few episodes of Voyager when it was broadcast; did enjoy them as i recall; and did love 7of9, although in someways she was a bit like Data in TNG whereby a lot of subsequent stories seemed to based on her character, or featured her character mostly, not that i was unhappy with that

I not long ago "acquired" all the episodes of all the series, and have watched Enterprise & TOS, am currently on TNG Series 5, just seen the Tom Parris actor in TNG as a misguided Starfleet Acadamy student, diff character obvs. Have to wade through DS9 before i reach Voyager tho ...

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by mwynn

Kate had a problem with her, she thought she took over the show.

Well at the time, Kate thought that she was cast herself to basically take the franchise in a new direction. While not the first female Captain to be depicted on-screen, Janeway was the first to lead her own series...and it seems Kate was hopeful that such a thing would be an inherently positive change.

However, she either forgot or ignored one thing - the bulk of people involved with Star Trek were still straight men. The ratings for Voyager were falling by the middle of Season 3, so they wrote an ending where Janeway approaches the Borg Collective for help. During the break, Ron Moore and Brannon Braga were bantering ideas around, and came up with the notion of a Borg officer. It was Rick Berman who suggested the character be a woman, using the term "Borg babe". So when Jeri was cast and her costume design was finalized, Kate's reaction was utter shock and (by her own admission) a lot of contempt. She probably saw Berman and the other creators taking the easy way out, and instead of blaming them she targeted Jeri - which she has since apologized and done her best to make amends for. These were her own remarks on the subject...

"Let’s be very straight about something: This is on me, not Jeri. She came in and did what she was asked to do. No question about that, and she did it very well. It’s on me, because I’d hoped against hope that Janeway would be sufficient. That we didn’t have to bring a beautiful, sexy girl in. That somehow the power of my command, the vicissitudes of my talent, would be sufficient unto the day, because this would really change television, right? That’s what dug me the hardest, that to pick up the numbers they did that.… That was my interpretation of it. And that hurt me. I found it sort of insulting. And, of course, she embodied the part, this beautiful girl. But we certainly were utterly professional. I had been nothing short of completely professional, and she did her job. Very well! It was a very good idea that she was half Borg, but it’s on me. I’m sorry it has to be part of this legacy, and I should have probably comported myself better. I should have been more philosophical about it, but in the moment it was difficult."