Av Receiver V.s Speakers? - Blu-ray Forum

TENSE · 03-01-2008, 03:44 AM

well i have a question people.
please forgive me if some one already posted this thread.
well ok im a noob on audio for home theater and i am trying to purchase a sony av receiver that is 660 watts and i want to get some sony brand speakers also but the problem is that the watts on the speakers add up more than the wattege of the receiver. the tottal wattage of the speakers together is 890 watts..!! and the receiver can only out put 660 watts.
is that ok or do i have to purchase some amplifier with my receiver?

when i looked at the information of the sony speakers at sony.com it said the book shelf speakers can max out 120 watts.
now is that 120 watts for both the 2 speakers or is it 120 watts per speaker?
please help im a newby so im just trying to learn

Kratos3 · 03-01-2008, 04:13 AM

We were all newbies at some point.

Don't worry about the watt rating on speakers. It's more of a guideline than anything. It's not like that's the amount of power they put out. That is based on your receiver. In general, you can't really overpower a speaker, unless you leave it fully cranked all the time. Besides, the actual wattage output of most receivers doesn't reach the full rating given by manufacturers.

Any reason you want Sony speakers? I'm not saying they are bad, but I just want to make sure you don't feel that you need to get the same brand of speakers as your receiver. There are a lot of brands out there, and they'll all work fine with your receiver. Just pick what you think sounds best.

Good luck, and I hope this helps.

hagar852 · 03-01-2008, 01:10 PM

Far as I know the quality speakers are usually looked at for the type of cone they use.. Driver they use... What their cabinet is made of for example medium density fiberboard or high density fiberboard.. What connections they have like bindng posts or spring clips... Spring clips are the crappy ones...

Things like that... Depending on your budget the world is your oyster..

Good companies other people would recommend

Klispch
Paradigm
AV123
Aperion
Ascend
Polk
Mirage
and the list goes on...

gearyt · 03-01-2008, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TENSE

when i looked at the information of the sony speakers at sony.com it said the book shelf speakers can max out 120 watts.
now is that 120 watts for both the 2 speakers or is it 120 watts per speaker?

Per channel ( Speaker )

moviefan · 03-01-2008, 02:28 PM

The Sony STR-DG 810 (6.1, about $350) or 910 (7.1,about $450) are outstanding for the money.
They both have full HDMI switching and most of the new ausio formats.
These will be replaced in June/July by the 820 and 920, both 7.1. and will have ALL the new auduo formats. Prices $400 and $600 respectively.
As far as speakers are concerned, do yourself a favor and skip the Sonys. Buy spealers from a SPEAKER manufacturer, such as the ones mebtioned above.
Good luck with your choices!

BruceWayne · 03-01-2008, 03:03 PM

If you get non HTIB Sony, the speakers are actually impressive... I'm know there is better out there but I have always supported Sony and their products never disappoint me. Buy their higher end speakers though, if you get a cheap set you will get what you pay for, which is probably what most of these people are bashing.

TENSE · 03-01-2008, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagar852

Far as I know the quality speakers are usually looked at for the type of cone they use.. Driver they use... What their cabinet is made of for example medium density fiberboard or high density fiberboard.. What connections they have like bindng posts or spring clips... Spring clips are the crappy ones...

Things like that... Depending on your budget the world is your oyster..

Good companies other people would recommend

Klispch
Paradigm
AV123
Aperion
Ascend
Polk
Mirage
and the list goes on...

i was thinking of getting some klispch
or polks if i donot get some sonys.

TENSE · 03-01-2008, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moviefan

The Sony STR-DG 810 (6.1, about $350) or 910 (7.1,about $450) are outstanding for the money.
They both have full HDMI switching and most of the new ausio formats.
These will be replaced in June/July by the 820 and 920, both 7.1. and will have ALL the new auduo formats. Prices $400 and $600 respectively.
As far as speakers are concerned, do yourself a favor and skip the Sonys. Buy spealers from a SPEAKER manufacturer, such as the ones mebtioned above.
Good luck with your choices!

are the klispch or polks better than sony?

TENSE · 03-01-2008, 06:59 PM

Any reason you want Sony speakers? I'm not saying they are bad, but I just want to make sure you don't feel that you need to get the same brand of speakers as your receiver. There are a lot of brands out there, and they'll all work fine with your receiver. Just pick what you think sounds best.

Good luck, and I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

so which speakers would you recomend me my friend?

TENSE · 03-01-2008, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kratos3

We were all newbies at some point.

Don't worry about the watt rating on speakers. It's more of a guideline than anything. It's not like that's the amount of power they put out. That is based on your receiver. In general, you can't really overpower a speaker, unless you leave it fully cranked all the time. Besides, the actual wattage output of most receivers doesn't reach the full rating given by manufacturers.

Any reason you want Sony speakers? I'm not saying they are bad, but I just want to make sure you don't feel that you need to get the same brand of speakers as your receiver. There are a lot of brands out there, and they'll all work fine with your receiver. Just pick what you think sounds best.

Good luck, and I hope this helps.

so which speakers would you recomend me?

crackinhedz · 03-01-2008, 07:14 PM

TENSE, I like the new pic.

Hilarious.

HDJK · 03-01-2008, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kratos3

We were all newbies at some point.

Don't worry about the watt rating on speakers. It's more of a guideline than anything. It's not like that's the amount of power they put out. That is based on your receiver. In general, you can't really overpower a speaker, unless you leave it fully cranked all the time. ...

The highlighted part is not true. You can blow a speaker no problem with high powered spikes the speaker can't handle.

Just the same, you generally want your amp to have double the power your speaker can handle. Reason being, an amplifier works best at half power, if you go much higher you start clipping it --> distortion, bad sound.

But you have to be careful and know when to stop turning up that volume knob

musicman1999 · 03-01-2008, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TENSE

so which speakers would you recomend me?

How much do you want to spend?

bill

TENSE · 03-01-2008, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDJK

The highlighted part is not true. You can blow a speaker no problem with high powered spikes the speaker can't handle.

Just the same, you generally want your amp to have double the power your speaker can handle. Reason being, an amplifier works best at half power, if you go much higher you start clipping it --> distortion, bad sound.

But you have to be careful and know when to stop turning up that volume knob

SO WHAT AMP DO YOU RECOMEND.?
AND HOW MUCH WOULD THEY COST?
AND CAN USE A CAR AMP?

TENSE · 03-01-2008, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musicman1999

How much do you want to spend?

bill

WELL ABOUT $700-$900
AROUND THAT MARGIN

MatrixS2000 · 03-01-2008, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDJK

The highlighted part is not true. You can blow a speaker no problem with high powered spikes the speaker can't handle.

+1 - too much power and your speakers will start making popping sound because your are exceeding their Xmax parameter. This parameter details the maximum distance the cone can move before being physically limited by the foam/rubber surround edge on the speaker.

You can also cause the voice coil to move beyond the magnet and damage it on its return trip.

hagar852 · 03-02-2008, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TENSE

WELL ABOUT $700-$900
AROUND THAT MARGIN

Here are a set of great speakers for the money a complete system...

http://www.aperionaudio.com/product/...,12,35,18.aspx

I have a set of these also just the bigger models.. Note that their center channel is being replaced by a new model.... unless you buy the wood finish..

I just got these speakers and they sound awesome!!..

30 day free trial with free shipping each way...

I took the chance and I am very . My receiver is the Sony STR-DG910.

TENSE · 03-02-2008, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagar852

Here are a set of great speakers for the money a complete system...

http://www.aperionaudio.com/product/...,12,35,18.aspx

I have a set of these also just the bigger models.. Note that their center channel is being replaced by a new model.... unless you buy the wood finish..

I just got these speakers and they sound awesome!!..

30 day free trial with free shipping each way...

I took the chance and I am very . My receiver is the Sony STR-DG910.

AND YOUR VERY WHAT?

hagar852 · 03-06-2008, 10:21 PM

oops

I am very pleased with them... These speakers sound great and they still have to break-in.

03-01-2008, 03:44 AM	#1
TENSE Senior Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Los Ageles, Ca Home Theater Gallery:10	Av Receiver V.s Speakers? well i have a question people. please forgive me if some one already posted this thread. well ok im a noob on audio for home theater and i am trying to purchase a sony av receiver that is 660 watts and i want to get some sony brand speakers also but the problem is that the watts on the speakers add up more than the wattege of the receiver. the tottal wattage of the speakers together is 890 watts..!! and the receiver can only out put 660 watts. is that ok or do i have to purchase some amplifier with my receiver? when i looked at the information of the sony speakers at sony.com it said the book shelf speakers can max out 120 watts. now is that 120 watts for both the 2 speakers or is it 120 watts per speaker? please help im a newby so im just trying to learn

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03-01-2008, 04:13 AM	#2
Kratos3 Active Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Home Theater Gallery:15 Blu-ray collection:227 Digital collection:39 Blu-ray reviews: 14	We were all newbies at some point. Don't worry about the watt rating on speakers. It's more of a guideline than anything. It's not like that's the amount of power they put out. That is based on your receiver. In general, you can't really overpower a speaker, unless you leave it fully cranked all the time. Besides, the actual wattage output of most receivers doesn't reach the full rating given by manufacturers. Any reason you want Sony speakers? I'm not saying they are bad, but I just want to make sure you don't feel that you need to get the same brand of speakers as your receiver. There are a lot of brands out there, and they'll all work fine with your receiver. Just pick what you think sounds best. Good luck, and I hope this helps.

03-01-2008, 01:10 PM	#3
hagar852 Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:107	Far as I know the quality speakers are usually looked at for the type of cone they use.. Driver they use... What their cabinet is made of for example medium density fiberboard or high density fiberboard.. What connections they have like bindng posts or spring clips... Spring clips are the crappy ones... Things like that... Depending on your budget the world is your oyster.. Good companies other people would recommend Klispch Paradigm AV123 Aperion Ascend Polk Mirage and the list goes on...

03-01-2008, 02:28 PM	#5
moviefan Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Orchard Park, NY	The Sony STR-DG 810 (6.1, about $350) or 910 (7.1,about $450) are outstanding for the money. They both have full HDMI switching and most of the new ausio formats. These will be replaced in June/July by the 820 and 920, both 7.1. and will have ALL the new auduo formats. Prices $400 and $600 respectively. As far as speakers are concerned, do yourself a favor and skip the Sonys. Buy spealers from a SPEAKER manufacturer, such as the ones mebtioned above. Good luck with your choices!

03-01-2008, 03:03 PM	#6
BruceWayne The Dark Knight Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Gotham City Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:887 DVD collection:496 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:6	If you get non HTIB Sony, the speakers are actually impressive... I'm know there is better out there but I have always supported Sony and their products never disappoint me. Buy their higher end speakers though, if you get a cheap set you will get what you pay for, which is probably what most of these people are bashing.

03-01-2008, 06:59 PM	#9
TENSE Senior Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Los Ageles, Ca Home Theater Gallery:10	Any reason you want Sony speakers? I'm not saying they are bad, but I just want to make sure you don't feel that you need to get the same brand of speakers as your receiver. There are a lot of brands out there, and they'll all work fine with your receiver. Just pick what you think sounds best. Good luck, and I hope this helps.[/QUOTE] so which speakers would you recomend me my friend?

03-01-2008, 07:14 PM	#11
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	TENSE, I like the new pic. Hilarious.

03-06-2008, 10:21 PM	#19
hagar852 Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:107	oops I am very pleased with them... These speakers sound great and they still have to break-in.

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