How Do I Get the Full Screen?? - Blu-ray Forum

GMAN · 12-16-2006, 11:07 PM

Hello everyone, this is my first thread. I just bought a Samsung BDP-1000 player, and I rented some Blu-Ray movies from Netflix. I was watching Firewall, and couldn't get the movie to take up the whole screen. My TV is a Sony 65" Wide Screen TV, only capable of of 1080i. This shouldn't limit me from seeing the movie on the whole screen without bars. What am I missing? Is there something that I need to set? Any ideas?

Jim · 12-16-2006, 11:18 PM

check out this discussion thread. It will explaine your question.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=3795

GMAN · 12-16-2006, 11:50 PM

So what would be the aspect ratio to look for to see a full image?

Zinn · 12-17-2006, 12:43 AM

1.78:1 or 16:9

Deciazulado · 12-17-2006, 07:46 AM

1.66 and 1.85 movies will pretty much fill your 16:9 screen too.

Silent movies, Academy Sound movies (movies made before the mid '50's), "Scope" or 70mm movies, and 20th century TV programming, won't.

Here's another thread about this with a more detailed list.

Dale2231 · 05-04-2008, 02:11 AM

I got the "Harry Potter and Goblet of Fire Blu-Ray the other day, and it is in 2:35:1 format, and as expected it came up with black bars top and bottom of the screen, but last night they showed the same movie on normal t.v and it filled my entire screen and it looked GREAT! like blu-ray quality PQ.
I got a 42" Full HD hitachi LCD.
The same thing happened with Pirates of the Carribean, it came on t.v and looked AMAZING! filled my whole screen without picture loss or distortion, but i looked the blu-ray up on here and it says it's in 2:35:1 format....
I don't gets it

JasonR · 05-04-2008, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale2231

I got the "Harry Potter and Goblet of Fire Blu-Ray the other day, and it is in 2:35:1 format, and as expected it came up with black bars top and bottom of the screen, but last night they showed the same movie on normal t.v and it filled my entire screen and it looked GREAT! like blu-ray quality PQ.
I got a 42" Full HD hitachi LCD.
The same thing happened with Pirates of the Carribean, it came on t.v and looked AMAZING! filled my whole screen without picture loss or distortion, but i looked the blu-ray up on here and it says it's in 2:35:1 format....
I don't gets it

You didn't notice you lost half the picture? The film was definitely cropped for TV.

Kirsty_Mc · 05-04-2008, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMAN

Hello everyone, this is my first thread. I just bought a Samsung BDP-1000 player, and I rented some Blu-Ray movies from Netflix. I was watching Firewall, and couldn't get the movie to take up the whole screen. My TV is a Sony 65" Wide Screen TV, only capable of of 1080i. This shouldn't limit me from seeing the movie on the whole screen without bars. What am I missing? Is there something that I need to set? Any ideas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale2231

I got the "Harry Potter and Goblet of Fire Blu-Ray the other day, and it is in 2:35:1 format, and as expected it came up with black bars top and bottom of the screen, but last night they showed the same movie on normal t.v and it filled my entire screen and it looked GREAT! like blu-ray quality PQ.
I got a 42" Full HD hitachi LCD.
The same thing happened with Pirates of the Carribean, it came on t.v and looked AMAZING! filled my whole screen without picture loss or distortion, but i looked the blu-ray up on here and it says it's in 2:35:1 format....
I don't gets it

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonR

You didn't notice you lost half the picture? The film was definitely cropped for TV.

+1

cakefoo · 05-04-2008, 01:11 PM

Just wanted to make sure you know what you're doing...

If you want to know why TV's still aren't wide enough to make full use of the entire screen with widescreen movies, I can tell you that one of the reasons is that standard definition content would be very very small on such a wide screen. So the 16:9 ratio is a nice compromise between standard and high definition content.

olitas · 05-04-2008, 01:35 PM

the space in the screen depends on the ratio of the movie, your TV is a 16:9, this means it's a 1,78 format (16 divided by 9). This is quite simple if you watch movie with a 1,78 ratio, you won't get bars, anything else you will. Under 1,78, example 1,33 movies (the old 4:3 TV format) you'll get bars on the side. If you get higher than 1,78, example 2,35 movies (most new movie in theaters, IMAX) you'll get bars on the top and bottum but they will be a lot smaller than on your old TV witch would of shown you bars the same size than the actual movie.

To resume
- Bars on the size will happen with movie with a ratio between 0 to 1,77, the high the number, the smaller the bars on the side.
- Bars on the top and bottum will happen with movie with a ration above 1,79, the bigger the number the bigger the bars,
You could rent Spiman trilogy, the first movie is 1,78 and will fit your screnn but the 2 and 3 ar higher in ratio and your get a bar on top and bottum.
Most newr movies will be 2,35 so a movie looks and feels different from TV witch with HD is now 1,78.

olitas · 05-04-2008, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMAN

So what would be the aspect ratio to look for to see a full image?

Your not going to see the full image if you change the original ratio, you need to cut something out to make it fit, Thant'S why is you watch som movie, they give an announcement at the bigginning of the movie that the size was modified to fit your TV screen,

Flomaster · 05-04-2008, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMAN

So what would be the aspect ratio to look for to see a full image?

in order to Fill up your screen you WILL lose alot of the picture that the director intended for the viewers to see. because what is happening when your "screen is full" its zooming in. take a camera zoomed out on a land scape shot you get more picture, zoom in and your loosing alot of that breath taking image.

-=Jason=-

saprano · 05-04-2008, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMAN

Hello everyone, this is my first thread. I just bought a Samsung BDP-1000 player, and I rented some Blu-Ray movies from Netflix. I was watching Firewall, and couldn't get the movie to take up the whole screen. My TV is a Sony 65" Wide Screen TV, only capable of of 1080i. This shouldn't limit me from seeing the movie on the whole screen without bars. What am I missing? Is there something that I need to set? Any ideas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale2231

I got the "Harry Potter and Goblet of Fire Blu-Ray the other day, and it is in 2:35:1 format, and as expected it came up with black bars top and bottom of the screen, but last night they showed the same movie on normal t.v and it filled my entire screen and it looked GREAT! like blu-ray quality PQ.
I got a 42" Full HD hitachi LCD.
The same thing happened with Pirates of the Carribean, it came on t.v and looked AMAZING! filled my whole screen without picture loss or distortion, but i looked the blu-ray up on here and it says it's in 2:35:1 format....
I don't gets it

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=48166

bajor27 · 05-04-2008, 02:50 PM

Fabulous response cakefoo. I really hope it gets the message across.

It's still very shocking when people don't realize that the only way to get one size movie to fill up a screen of a different size is to alter the size of the movie.

The only way to get a rectangle to fit in a square (or in this case, a longer rectangle to fit in a shorter rectangle), is to either shrink the rectangle (resulting in black bars) or cut part of it off!!!

12-16-2006, 11:07 PM	#1
GMAN New Member Member since:Dec 2006	How Do I Get the Full Screen?? Hello everyone, this is my first thread. I just bought a Samsung BDP-1000 player, and I rented some Blu-Ray movies from Netflix. I was watching Firewall, and couldn't get the movie to take up the whole screen. My TV is a Sony 65" Wide Screen TV, only capable of of 1080i. This shouldn't limit me from seeing the movie on the whole screen without bars. What am I missing? Is there something that I need to set? Any ideas?

05-04-2008, 01:11 PM	#9
cakefoo Active Member Member since:Dec 2007	Just wanted to make sure you know what you're doing... If you want to know why TV's still aren't wide enough to make full use of the entire screen with widescreen movies, I can tell you that one of the reasons is that standard definition content would be very very small on such a wide screen. So the 16:9 ratio is a nice compromise between standard and high definition content. Last edited by cakefoo; 05-04-2008 at 01:20 PM.

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12-16-2006, 11:18 PM	#2
Jim Member Member since:Sep 2006 Location:SLC, Utah Blu-ray reviews:2	check out this discussion thread. It will explaine your question. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=3795

12-16-2006, 11:50 PM	#3
GMAN New Member Member since:Dec 2006	So what would be the aspect ratio to look for to see a full image?

12-17-2006, 12:43 AM	#4
Zinn Active Member Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Sweden	1.78:1 or 16:9

12-17-2006, 07:46 AM	#5
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1159 Blu-ray collection:7041 DVD collection:4040	1.66 and 1.85 movies will pretty much fill your 16:9 screen too. Silent movies, Academy Sound movies (movies made before the mid '50's), "Scope" or 70mm movies, and 20th century TV programming, won't. Here's another thread about this with a more detailed list.

05-04-2008, 02:11 AM	#6
Dale2231 Junior Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Australia Blu-ray reviews:1	I got the "Harry Potter and Goblet of Fire Blu-Ray the other day, and it is in 2:35:1 format, and as expected it came up with black bars top and bottom of the screen, but last night they showed the same movie on normal t.v and it filled my entire screen and it looked GREAT! like blu-ray quality PQ. I got a 42" Full HD hitachi LCD. The same thing happened with Pirates of the Carribean, it came on t.v and looked AMAZING! filled my whole screen without picture loss or distortion, but i looked the blu-ray up on here and it says it's in 2:35:1 format.... I don't gets it

05-04-2008, 01:35 PM	#10
olitas Member Member since:Feb 2008 4K collection:23 Blu-ray collection:443 DVD collection:62 Digital collection:112 iTunes collection:42 Blu-ray reviews:1	the space in the screen depends on the ratio of the movie, your TV is a 16:9, this means it's a 1,78 format (16 divided by 9). This is quite simple if you watch movie with a 1,78 ratio, you won't get bars, anything else you will. Under 1,78, example 1,33 movies (the old 4:3 TV format) you'll get bars on the side. If you get higher than 1,78, example 2,35 movies (most new movie in theaters, IMAX) you'll get bars on the top and bottum but they will be a lot smaller than on your old TV witch would of shown you bars the same size than the actual movie. To resume - Bars on the size will happen with movie with a ratio between 0 to 1,77, the high the number, the smaller the bars on the side. - Bars on the top and bottum will happen with movie with a ration above 1,79, the bigger the number the bigger the bars, You could rent Spiman trilogy, the first movie is 1,78 and will fit your screnn but the 2 and 3 ar higher in ratio and your get a bar on top and bottum. Most newr movies will be 2,35 so a movie looks and feels different from TV witch with HD is now 1,78.

05-04-2008, 02:50 PM	#14
bajor27 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:BC, Canada Blu-ray collection:1031 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:5	Fabulous response cakefoo. I really hope it gets the message across. It's still very shocking when people don't realize that the only way to get one size movie to fill up a screen of a different size is to alter the size of the movie. The only way to get a rectangle to fit in a square (or in this case, a longer rectangle to fit in a shorter rectangle), is to either shrink the rectangle (resulting in black bars) or cut part of it off!!!

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