Is it worth it to buy a standalone player instead of PS3 for higher Audio Codecs?

[Ice2Dragon]

Just curious.. I have the onkyo 805.. and a ps3.

But damnit Im tired of my hd dud player having better audio codecs.. I have the HD-A35 model.

Im tired of waiting for the possible updates to improve the audio codecs of the ps3.

So heres the question..

Should I get a standalone player when the 2.0 players come out?
Should I stay with the ps3 and just hope that updates come soon?

[crackinhedz]

Im tired of waiting for the possible updates to improve the audio codecs of the ps3.

it sounds like audio is an important factor in your movie experience, in which case I would say yes you might enjoy a standalone player better.

I too have been waiting over a year for the Dts-HD MA update...but im satisfied with the dts core with hopes of an update eventually...so I understand your grief. But since its been rumored to happen for over a year Ive slipped into the "I'll believe it when I see it" category. So when will it happen?? who the heck knows.

So, if Dts-HD MA is important I say why wait? The new Panasonic BD50 looks like a sweet player.

[un4gvn94538]

thats one reason im purchasing the sony 350 thats coming this summer.

[Rabidhunter]

I don't know, I really like my PS3. I don't have the most advanced system, but it looks and sounds perfect on what I got. That's the most important thing for me. Plus, you get everything else, the games, the downloadable stuff, wi-fi (so you don't have to burn a disk for the updates) I know a lot of other players are coming out with the wi-fi feature or they have an ethernet port. A PS3's worth it.

[owa]

Originally Posted by Ice2Dragon

But damnit Im tired of my hd dud player having better audio codecs.. I have the HD-A35 model.

That's an interesting way of putting it considering there's what, like, 1 US HD DVD title (Pan's Labyrinth) using DTS-HD MA? Not to mention there are a lot more blu-ray titles using lossless audio (that you can decode just fine or don't have to decode at all). But yeah, I can see where having the capability on HD DVD, even if it isn't used, can be somewhat comforting.

[Blu Titan]

I bought the Samsung BD 1400P for $299 in November and got 8 free Blu-ray movies. Not bad at all My 60GB PS3 is great, but way too noisy for the bedroom. Plus I don't want to risk falling asleep and have the PS3 running all night.

[Tyler2106]

Almost every movie in BR offers LPCM...and your not going to get any better then that...I don't think you really need to buy a stand alone player but if that floats your boat then ya...I was thinking about do that just so I didn't have to use my PS3 as a BD player and game player...

[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by Tyler2106

Almost every movie in BR offers LPCM...and your not going to get any better then that...I don't think you really need to buy a stand alone player but if that floats your boat then ya...I was thinking about do that just so I didn't have to use my PS3 as a BD player and game player...

thats the other reason

[btf1980]

Originally Posted by Tyler2106

Almost every movie in BR offers LPCM...and your not going to get any better then that...I don't think you really need to buy a stand alone player but if that floats your boat then ya...I was thinking about do that just so I didn't have to use my PS3 as a BD player and game player...

The problem is that everything Fox puts out is DTS-HD MA, and say what you will about Fox, but they have been putting out some quality titles in the last 4 months.

[Ice2Dragon]

Originally Posted by btf1980

The problem is that everything Fox puts out is DTS-HD MA, and say what you will about Fox, but they have been putting out some quality titles in the last 4 months.

Thats exactly my point.. I want to enjoy the fox titles to full potential.. and it just feels like the ps3 just isnt cutting it.

It just pisses me off to no extent that my stupid ass 199.99 HD-A35 player uses better audio codecs then my damn 600 dollar PS3 60gb.

Im a huge audiophile since I have the onkyo805.. and i just want to enjoy movies.

Granted.. the movies sound phenomenal with my setup now.. But I wanna know how much better they will sound with a standalone player that does DTS HD and all the others that PS3 does not

[crackinhedz]

But I wanna know how much better they will sound with a standalone player that does DTS HD and all the others that PS3 does not

Dts-HD is the only format the PS3 cannot do (yet?)...so im not sure what you mean by your HD-DVD player can do better?

[Ice2Dragon]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

Dts-HD is the only format the PS3 cannot do (yet?)...so im not sure what you mean by your HD-DVD player can do better?

Cuz it can do that.. Pan's popped in it

Ill just pick up a standalone 2.0 player.. Id like to see Saw4's molog feature after 3 months of not being able to use it

[America's Team]

Originally Posted by Ice2Dragon

Thats exactly my point.. I want to enjoy the fox titles to full potential.. and it just feels like the ps3 just isnt cutting it.

It just pisses me off to no extent that my stupid ass 199.99 HD-A35 player uses better audio codecs then my damn 600 dollar PS3 60gb.

Im a huge audiophile since I have the onkyo805.. and i just want to enjoy movies.

Granted.. the movies sound phenomenal with my setup now.. But I wanna know how much better they will sound with a standalone player that does DTS HD and all the others that PS3 does not

Then what the hell are you waiting for then....The Panasonic DMP-BD-30 is waiting for you at your local entertainment store. Go get and turn that frown upside down!

[Sonny]

I REALLY want DTS-HDMA decoding for the PS3, that, & 2.0 (which is a given)is all thats missing! I would get rid of my standalones if they would/could? do an update. DTS/Sony PLEASE work somthing out if possible to make this happen...

[Ice2Dragon]

Originally Posted by America's Team

Then what the hell are you waiting for then....The Panasonic DMP-BD-30 is waiting for you at your local entertainment store. Go get and turn that frown upside down!

I thought a new player was coming out.. some 500 dollar one..?

[Blu Falcon]

Originally Posted by Sonny

I REALLY want DTS-HDMA decoding for the PS3, that, & 2.0 (which is a given)is all thats missing! I would get rid of my standalones if they would/could? do an update. DTS/Sony PLEASE work somthing out if possible to make this happen...

I really don't understand the mechanics involved in how audio decoding works, but would a firmware update allow the PS3 to bitstream DTS-HD MA?

[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by Blu Falcon

I really don't understand the mechanics involved in how audio decoding works, but would a firmware update allow the PS3 to bitstream DTS-HD MA?

bitstream no, internal decode yes

[zak88lx]

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

bitstream no, internal decode yes

Why is this not possible with a firmware update?

Zak

[crackinhedz]

Why is this not possible with a firmware update?

Zak

because bitstream capability involves having a specific hdmi transmitter chip. Which the PS3 does not have, so firmware will not update it....you would need a hardware update which will not be practicle.

[welwynnick]

I’m thinking of getting a stand-alone player AND a PS3. I want best possible playback of all media, and good as the PS3 is, I get the impression its not the master of all of them. In particular, I think CDs can sound better than when using toslink from a PS3, so I’m thinking of getting a universal player for CDs and region 2 DVDs, plus a PS3 for games and blu-rays.

Not sure whether anyone has taken this approach, but I’m keen to use an i-link connection for non-BD audio, as it seems to be better than spdif, toslink or HMDI. Unfortunately there are no BD players that can do this, and I’m not sure there ever will be.

Nick