Onkyo 605 Volume

[sticks4legs]

Just dropped some cash on a Onkyo 605, couldn't be happier
One question for other owners is what volume # are you watching a movie at??

I'm usually in the 60+ range...if I want it loud it will be in the 75 range

Also, with such low THD levels does it really matter???

[Zaphod]

I have the 805 and the volume levels are a little different that the 605. Every source is different for me as far as the listening level is concerned. The new Onkyo's seem to be low on the volume side up to a high setting and then get loud really quick in small increments on the top end.

When listening to a DD or DD+ track it is typically set in the -15 to the -10 range. When listening to DTS core from a DTS-MA track it ranges in the -26 to -18 range. When listening to a PCM or TrueHD track the range is like -20 to -12.

[Getus]

with my 705 i won't go much further than -20 a -18.
Haha i'am afread that when i do go further i will blow up my speakers

still saving money for better one's

[quirkmanly]

I have a 605 too and your range is very similar to mine. When watching a movie, I tend to run the audio between 64 and 70 (depending on circumstance). For music I drop that range a little though.

[rayfundora]

I have the 605. I use 68 to 72 for most movies. When I listen to music I use 60 to 65.

[Slec]

Same experience with the 605. If you're using a PS3 as your BD player, then during a movie or game turn up the internal volume. (hit triangle and find the icon for volume...right side if memory serves). I've played around to see if it adds any additional distortion or other issues and it doesn't seem to, even at very loud volumes. My 605 now runs in the 40's and 50's which i'm assuming will make it produce less heat...
just a thought

[sticks4legs]

Thanks for all the responses. I didn't think there would be a problem, but just wanted to be sure. My speakers are rated higher then the output of the amp but really don't feel like more speaker shopping and break in times, in case of disaster

Also, is there a way to make the display stay on what the signal input is, or will it always gop back to the input source you are using? I know you can't change the labels, but thought there might be a way to do this


Cheers

[sj001]

Yeah, my volume levels are typically in the 60-65 range most of the time. I like to listen to some of the concert videos in the 70 range. Sounds like your Onkyo 605 is working as intended.

[haste]

Volume of 55 produces 80dB of volume for me at 7 ft listening distance.

62 produces 90dB which is safe for 8 hours worth of listening at one time...
of course these numbers are + or - a couple dB...



this is for music though. movies would obviously be different.

[gearyt]

Originally Posted by Slec

My 605 now runs in the 40's and 50's which i'm assuming will make it produce less heat...
just a thought

yep...less volume = less heat !!

[Slec]

Originally Posted by gearyt

yep...less volume = less heat !!

lower volume level = less heat = hopefully extended life on the unit!

Who am I kidding i'll be buying an 805 or Pioneer Elite 92 well before wear and tear are an issue

[haste]

Originally Posted by Slec

Same experience with the 605. If you're using a PS3 as your BD player, then during a movie or game turn up the internal volume. (hit triangle and find the icon for volume...right side if memory serves). I've played around to see if it adds any additional distortion or other issues and it doesn't seem to, even at very loud volumes. My 605 now runs in the 40's and 50's which i'm assuming will make it produce less heat...
just a thought

nah. wont make a difference...the receiver is still pushing the same amount of power to the speakers to achieve the same volume level...


Do this:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=42876

then report back with ur findings as to whether using the ps3 as a volume booster truly reduces the heat. i HIGHLY doubt this is the case...

[Slec]

Originally Posted by haste

nah. wont make a difference...the receiver is still pushing the same amount of power to the speakers to achieve the same volume level...


Do this:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=42876

then report back with ur findings as to whether using the ps3 as a volume booster truly reduces the heat. i HIGHLY doubt this is the case...

I was just reading that thread... My thought is that if the signal comes in boosted, the amp has to do less work to get the volume levels equal.

It's a tough one to measure outright and remain valid.... any suggestions? If the longer it's on the hotter it gets, how does one determine if the effect is based on the PS3 internal volume being up or down? Either way the temp goes up... Don't know if I have the patience to let the receiver cool down, watch a movie, cool down change settings (attempt to equalize volume, as I don't have an SPL meter), then watch same movie (to eliminate track differences)....

[haste]

Originally Posted by Slec

I was just reading that thread... My thought is that if the signal comes in boosted, the amp has to do less work to get the volume levels equal.

It's a tough one to measure outright and remain valid.... any suggestions? If the longer it's on the hotter it gets, how does one determine if the effect is based on the PS3 internal volume being up or down? Either way the temp goes up... Don't know if I have the patience to let the receiver cool down, watch a movie, cool down change settings (attempt to equalize volume, as I don't have an SPL meter), then watch same movie (to eliminate track differences)....

i just tested my receiver...it just seems to depend a lot on the source material...
i listened to 15 minutes of music...ranging from laguna coil, korn, to joe satriani.

it maxed out at 64c when listening to the first 3 tracks of laguna coil...then it dropped down as it went to korn and then on to joe. it dropped to 57c listening to joe...

this was at 75 volume coming from my computer sound card hooked up via analog multi channel.

this equates to about 95dB per my spl meter listening volume (which is loud as hell to me).

[Grady]

I have a 605 and anything over 40 is uncomfortably loud. So many things can affect your listening volume. But, if you have to have it at 75 then I'd think you have a problem. Either it's not setup right or your listening area is outside or your speaker's db sensitivity is low. Most people don't even look at the db sensitivity when they purchase speakers but it's one of the more important specs. Every 3 db is 50% less power for the same loudness. So, for example, my speakers are rated at 90 and I need my volume at or around 35. If I switched out my speakers for some that were rated at 87 then my new listening volume would be at 70 because I now need 2x the power to get the same performance.

[Slec]

Good Point Grady... I should have also mentioned in my earlier post that I upgraded my speakers from ones with a sensitivity of 89db to 98db. That coupled with the PS3 volume changed my audio by quite a bit (40% reduction in volume #)

[haste]

Originally Posted by Grady

I have a 605 and anything over 40 is uncomfortably loud. So many things can affect your listening volume. But, if you have to have it at 75 then I'd think you have a problem. Either it's not setup right or your listening area is outside or your speaker's db sensitivity is low. Most people don't even look at the db sensitivity when they purchase speakers but it's one of the more important specs. Every 3 db is 50% less power for the same loudness. So, for example, my speakers are rated at 90 and I need my volume at or around 35. If I switched out my speakers for some that were rated at 87 then my new listening volume would be at 70 because I now need 2x the power to get the same performance.

whats the source you are using? and what speakers do you have?

[Brian Cash]

I also have the same problem on my 605 while watching a movie its usually around 65

[haste]

Originally Posted by Brian Cash

I also have the same problem on my 605 while watching a movie its usually around 65

WHy do u say thats a problem? THat volume is normal for just about everyone that has posted.

[cartman781]

Originally Posted by Zaphod

I have the 805 and the volume levels are a little different that the 605. Every source is different for me as far as the listening level is concerned. The new Onkyo's seem to be low on the volume side up to a high setting and then get loud really quick in small increments on the top end.

When listening to a DD or DD+ track it is typically set in the -15 to the -10 range. When listening to DTS core from a DTS-MA track it ranges in the -26 to -18 range. When listening to a PCM or TrueHD track the range is like -20 to -12.

Nice Peeple ***** at me when I have it at -25.