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Old 04-02-2008, 06:01 PM   #1
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Default MTV Multiplayer: The mystery behind PS3's sometimes mandatory installations.

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/...ar-as-we-know/

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/04/02/...tory-installs/

Yes, many of us have this problem with some of our games and now MTV (never expected them to do it) has investigated into what causes the problem. Turns out that the developers have yet to utelise in the format (yes, even Sony with Eveybody's/Hot Shots Golf and GT5 Prolouge). Click on the links to find out more.

In other news, the SIXAXIS is looking set to be discontinued around the summer season. If you want more, heres the link (MTV again):

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/...-discontinued/
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I saw this news bit earlier this morning on PS3Fanboy and thought to myself, "I wasn't aware this was a mystery that needed solving, but I'm glad we've got some crackpot MTV detectives figuring this stuff out."
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I saw this news bit earlier this morning on PS3Fanboy and thought to myself, "I wasn't aware this was a mystery that needed solving, but I'm glad we've got some crackpot MTV detectives figuring this stuff out."
So you are in favor of loading parts of the game to your hard drive?
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Old 04-02-2008, 08:37 PM   #4
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So you are in favor of loading parts of the game to your hard drive?
It doesn't bother me. I've never really given it a second thought, or thought it required any thing beyond that.
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I saw this news bit earlier this morning on PS3Fanboy and thought to myself, "I wasn't aware this was a mystery that needed solving, but I'm glad we've got some crackpot MTV detectives figuring this stuff out."
I think they (MTV) keep their "crack" and their "pot" in different offices or orifices.

YAAAHH!!! YAAAHH!!! On to the next town!!!
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:03 PM   #6
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I agree with Jake...

As a pc player as well im use to installing 8gb or more for a single game,
and if you want to complain about waits, lets talk about going from original
ff 11 pc installation with all patches installation.

It last time I played that, I believe it took over 24 hours....

All were required to just play...
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Yes, many of us have this problem with some of our games and now MTV (never expected them to do it) has investigated into what causes the problem. Turns out that the developers have yet to utelise in the format (yes, even Sony with Eveybody's/Hot Shots Golf and GT5 Prolouge). Click on the links to find out more
You're parsing so it says what you want it to say

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he issue arises from differences in the reading techniques of DVD and Blu-ray. By nature, the outer and inner parts of a disc move at different speeds while a disc is spinning, regardless of format (CD, DVD, Blu-ray, HD-DVD, etc.). While DVD drives can read data at those differing speeds, Blu-ray reads at one speed. Combine that with the extremely large size of Blu-ray discs, and simply dumping existing DVD data onto a Blu-ray disc will inevitably result in longer load times.
What it's saying is that the single read/spin speed, combined with all the data being on the inner rather than outer tracks results in the longer load times. They can't just dump the data on the outer rings and have nothing inbetween the boot area of the disc and the outer 10GB or so. Positioning that data requires scads of extra time and effort on the part of the developer, when writing an install routine takes almost no time at all, and results in exponentially faster access times to boot. So where is their time better spent? Improving the graphics, stamping bugs, improving AI etc, or playing data tetris so you don't have to install the game?
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You're parsing so it says what you want it to say



What it's saying is that the single read/spin speed, combined with all the data being on the inner rather than outer tracks results in the longer load times. They can't just dump the data on the outer rings and have nothing inbetween the boot area of the disc and the outer 10GB or so. Positioning that data requires scads of extra time and effort on the part of the developer, when writing an install routine takes almost no time at all, and results in exponentially faster access times to boot. So where is their time better spent? Improving the graphics, stamping bugs, improving AI etc, or playing data tetris so you don't have to install the game?
For the win wiki you show em.

Seriously some people need to learn the ancient practice of patience right?
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