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Old 01-09-2007, 03:03 PM   #1
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=783576

At the end of the above thread was this-

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mod note: we have received reports on this thread and certain posters should take note

and YES, there have been suspensions
yoyoniner looks to be one of them.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 03:19 PM   #2
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It's disappointing to see all of this going on over at AVS. The folks in Rochester who own the site are first class guys and have run a great forum for a number of years. This format war has turned it into a juvenile circus, far out of character for the AVS forum we have known.

At this point, I think if it were my forum, I'd removed the format war sections and get back to basics, before they lose all their credibility. Their servers can hardly handle the traffic as it is.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 03:22 PM   #3
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Nothing new.

It's becomling less subtle and more aggressive since CES 2007 is clearly such a bomb for HD-DVD and clearly spells out the beginning of its end in no uncertain terms.

Desperate times call for increasingly desperate tactics like these.

They can't let pesky facts get in the way so just ban the people that post them.

Yoyo hasn't done himself any favors, nor have a few others, by deliberately going into HD-DVD only areas and posting stuff. That is technically trolling, although how many HD-DVD zealots do that in the BD areas with ne'er a blink of the eye?

I wish the BDA would really consider some lawsuits.

I appreciate the fact that some people want to keep up the good fight and try fight against the sea of misinformation, but I can't stress this enough: Your wallet can do far more in a few moments then spending hours on end in useless pissing contests on Internet forums.

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Old 01-09-2007, 03:39 PM   #4
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As a paid member I would love to see AVS face a lawsuit by banning someone without merit. MArk Rubin at his best. First it was challenge the information not the person posting. Now it's time for a good ole fashion book burning and public lynching if you don't conform. They are truly cowards over there.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 03:39 PM   #5
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I got banned, and now IP Banned. Seriously, if you support blu-ray, you're public enemy #1.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 03:55 PM   #6
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I got banned, and now IP Banned. Seriously, if you support blu-ray, you're public enemy #1.
If you are IP banned, use Scroogle to go there through a proxy.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 04:05 PM   #7
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As a paid member I would love to see AVS face a lawsuit by banning someone without merit. MArk Rubin at his best. First it was challenge the information not the person posting. Now it's time for a good ole fashion book burning and public lynching if you don't conform. They are truly cowards over there.
They'll never get two cents of my money.

Anyone who's a paid member there, such as yourself, should be in a livid rage and making all kinds of noise and chaos.

"The customer is always right."
 
Old 01-09-2007, 04:47 PM   #8
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=783576

At the end of the above thread was this-



yoyoniner looks to be one of them.
Yikes , they seem pretty thin-skinned over there when a fact they don't like is thrown at them.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 05:19 PM   #9
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I'll give Scroogle a looksee!
 
Old 01-09-2007, 06:31 PM   #10
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Yep, I got ANOTHER warning today threatening suspension if I "publicly challenged Modertaor actions"....
unbelieveable. The HDdvd trolls had a feeding frenzy yesterday after the CES BD software announcments and I called them and AVS on it and got my ass handed to me.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 06:35 PM   #11
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What you need to do now, is pm alan gouger, and various other ADMIN's of the forum who have more power then mark rubin. Give them direct links to where the abuse is taking place and explain to them that AVSForum is become worse then a pokemon forum because people like Mark Rubin are driving away posters, posters who shop at their sponcers buisness and will not pay the AVS club fee in fear of expressing an opinion and getting banned by mark rubin.

Trust me, you get the message to the right people, and Alan is a real strait shooter, it will get heard.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 06:37 PM   #12
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The thing is, Mark Rubin has been rather neutral in his posts. Perhaps mildly pro-BD.

Something else is going on.

Gary
 
Old 01-09-2007, 06:39 PM   #13
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The thing is, Mark Rubin has been rather neutral in his posts. Perhaps mildly pro-BD.

Something else is going on.

Gary
Actions speak louder then words. Whenever things look down for hd-dvd, bam, mark is there closing the thread. When hd-dvd fanboys go crazy all over the bd forum, mark is suddenly out to lunch for weeks at a time.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 06:57 PM   #14
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Actions speak louder then words. Whenever things look down for hd-dvd, bam, mark is there closing the thread. When hd-dvd fanboys go crazy all over the bd forum, mark is suddenly out to lunch for weeks at a time.
They've said in the past they only look at the posts reported to them.

Perhaps the HD DVD crowd are in take over mode, complaining about every BD post?

We knew they'd act like wounded animals when reality set in. This doesn't surprise me one damn bit.

In the end, who cares? We have this forum. 2800+ members, with the most active count of 185 yesterday. If AVS doesn't want the eyeballs, it is their loss.

Gary
 
Old 01-09-2007, 07:19 PM   #15
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They've said in the past they only look at the posts reported to them.
If that is indeed the case, that might explain what's going on. The Blu-ray group is confident and comfortable in what's going on and doesn't report threads to the mods. Conversely, the HD-DVD fanboys are very concerned and gang up on every postive Blu-ray post, overwhelming the mod with reports on those posts, so they're the ones that get removed.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 07:21 PM   #16
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They've said in the past they only look at the posts reported to them.

Perhaps the HD DVD crowd are in take over mode, complaining about every BD post?

We knew they'd act like wounded animals when reality set in. This doesn't surprise me one damn bit.

In the end, who cares? We have this forum. 2800+ members, with the most active count of 185 yesterday. If AVS doesn't want the eyeballs, it is their loss.

Gary
I think this is more likely the reason. I saw a post in the HDDVD thread calling to arms to report every post by YOYO.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 07:29 PM   #17
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completely agreed. There is nothing to read in the HDdvd software forum, no big exclusives so they're all even now actively trolling. Just saw another "PS3 sales disappointing" thread started again!!!!
And DrDon is the mod that spanked me!
 
Old 01-09-2007, 07:42 PM   #18
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Something is definitely going on. I think it is the paid HD-DVD ad dollars or something I don't know.

I've had mod's pm me and edit my post which only stated facts. Let post clearly in violation of TOS unscratched that I was responding to. The mod even agreed with me in PM yet he modded my post and told me to take the higher road in PM. What the heck is that about.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 08:19 PM   #19
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It's all about the $$$$
I'm sure the HDdvd powers that be are keeping an eye on the forum and want to make sure that their little soldiers stay in line and try to fight the good fight.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 10:44 PM   #20
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I've been pretty lucky over there. Never been threatend with a ban and only one really harsh comment in a PM (KenH) MarkRubin is wishywashy and DrDon thinks most of all this stuff is a big joke (which for the most part it is... )

What all of the traffic does is bump up click-counts on the ads and thats how they get paid. So far they have a new server and a traffic router they have installed, so they are running it like a WWF wrestling event, and they are the promoters collecting the $$... Why do you think that I have a Freddie Blassie link in my sig...

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