I have a question or concern.... - Blu-ray Forum

KidSqueek · 06-03-2008, 08:39 PM

I was just at Wal-Mart and I was watching National Treasure 2 on a Sony Brava 1080p HDTV and the movie looked nasty. It looked like if I was watching it on a local channel. I checked the back and it had an HDMI cable so i was confused. It was displayed with a blu ray player and a ps3 but they weren't playing the movie from there though. I also had the same experience when I was at Circuit City last week and was watching Transformers on an HDTV playing from the ps3. Can someone help explain to me what was going on? I want to get an HDTV and a ps3 but if my old DVD collection will look like crap when playing, then what would be the point of upgrading?

Also, one more question. If I was to get a 1080p HDTV and played a standard dvd on it, will it stretch it out and make it looked pixel and disturbed or will it look better on A 720p? Same questions about 720p blu ray movies on a 1080p HDTV.

Thanks.

CptGreedle · 06-03-2008, 08:46 PM

the TV is most likely set up to make it look really contrasty... to try to mimic that 3D effect.

It is prolly using a shared signal also so the split signal loosing quality fast, the more tvs using it, the worse it looks.
These rarely ever calibrate them properly. They want people to see over saturated, over contrasted, and over sharpened images cause they think it will sell the TV/player/disc.

Everyone does it, unfortunately, unless you go to a real nice place like Tweeters or the Big Screen Store.

If you play a standard DVD on an HDTV, well... if it is on a DVD player, it will stretch it to a point. you can set the dvd player to make it widescreen or not. if it is set right, it will not distort the image, but it will not look good either. If you have an up-sampling/up-converting DVD player, it will make it fill the screen (if it is wide screen) and resample the image to look better. If you have a BD player, it will do the same thing.

brett_day · 06-03-2008, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KidSqueek

I was just at Wal-Mart and I was watching National Treasure 2 on a Sony Brava 1080p HDTV and the movie looked nasty. It looked like if I was watching it on a local channel. I checked the back and it had an HDMI cable so i was confused. It was displayed with a blu ray player and a ps3 but they weren't playing the movie from there though. I also had the same experience when I was at Circuit City last week and was watching Transformers on an HDTV playing from the ps3. Can someone help explain to me what was going on? I want to get an HDTV and a ps3 but if my old DVD collection will look like crap when playing, then what would be the point of upgrading?

Also, one more question. If I was to get a 1080p HDTV and played a standard dvd on it, will it stretch it out and make it looked pixel and disturbed or will it look better on A 720p? Same questions about 720p blu ray movies on a 1080p HDTV.

Thanks.

probably looks bad as they get one source and then split the source between multiple tv's! believe me blu ray and hdtv are fantastic! i really wish stores would stop doing the split feed as it gives a bad impression! I just bought national treasure 2 on BD and it blows me away

For the other part of your question.....no...1080p 720p will not stretch out a movie! The movie will play on the tv in the ratio it was filmed in. if it was filmed as a widescreen format it will display as wide screen. if it was filmed as full screen it will fill the screen. i think you are thinking about how sd television channels are on hdtv. they will have black bars down the sides and if you zoom in on them with the zoom / fill funtion of the tv then the picture will be stretched.

SD DVD will look better when playing through a upconverting dvd player or blu ray player as the sd dvd will be upconverted to at least 720p / 1080p depending on your player, but by no means will it stretch the picture unless you tell it to do so!

kpkelley · 06-03-2008, 08:46 PM

Blu-ray movies are 1080P. There are a rare few that are 1080i(Short Circuit, Opus Arte Opera's, etc.). None are 720P.

DVD's that are upscaled will look as good as they possibly can, but they won't look as good as the Blu-ray's. They should most definitely looked better than they do on a lower resolution set.

Don't judge movie image quality from an in-store screen as they are tweaked to all hell.

If Transformers was playing on a PS3, then it was a DVD, but I can't comment on how they had it connected or set-up. It may not have been upscaling the image at all and the TV could have had noise reduction on, which would not help.

CptGreedle · 06-03-2008, 08:47 PM

A PS3 will up-sample the image and make it look better than ever on an HDTV.
You want to go into a Magnolia center, or other higher end room and look at the TVs in there if you are looking for quality demos.
Your old DVD collection will look great, but Blu-rays will look better still.

CptGreedle · 06-03-2008, 08:51 PM

The OAP (Original Aspect Ratio) of a DVD/film is preserved always on a Blu-ray. The aspect ration on a DVD is not always right, but usually close.
With a PS3, it will not distort or stretch the image out of shape. it will fill the screen but sometimes will still have the black bars on top and bottom IF the film is wider than the TV (don't worry, it is normal). If you see letterbox it is fine. If you see black bars on the side, it is also fine cause this is what happens on a 4:3 ratio DVD (TV standard def aspect ratio). they are called Pillar Boxes.

Trust us, it will look amazing when hooked up right.

KidSqueek · 06-03-2008, 11:51 PM

Thanks everyone for your answers. It really cleared things up!

WriteSimply · 06-04-2008, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CptGreedle

The OAR (Original Aspect Ratio) of a DVD/film is preserved always on a Blu-ray. The aspect ratio on a DVD is not always right, but usually close.

Corrected.

fuad

06-03-2008, 08:39 PM	#1
KidSqueek Active Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:LOS ANGELES 4K collection:353 Blu-ray collection:470 Digital collection:2 iTunes collection:17	I have a question or concern.... I was just at Wal-Mart and I was watching National Treasure 2 on a Sony Brava 1080p HDTV and the movie looked nasty. It looked like if I was watching it on a local channel. I checked the back and it had an HDMI cable so i was confused. It was displayed with a blu ray player and a ps3 but they weren't playing the movie from there though. I also had the same experience when I was at Circuit City last week and was watching Transformers on an HDTV playing from the ps3. Can someone help explain to me what was going on? I want to get an HDTV and a ps3 but if my old DVD collection will look like crap when playing, then what would be the point of upgrading? Also, one more question. If I was to get a 1080p HDTV and played a standard dvd on it, will it stretch it out and make it looked pixel and disturbed or will it look better on A 720p? Same questions about 720p blu ray movies on a 1080p HDTV. Thanks.

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06-03-2008, 08:46 PM	#2
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	the TV is most likely set up to make it look really contrasty... to try to mimic that 3D effect. It is prolly using a shared signal also so the split signal loosing quality fast, the more tvs using it, the worse it looks. These rarely ever calibrate them properly. They want people to see over saturated, over contrasted, and over sharpened images cause they think it will sell the TV/player/disc. Everyone does it, unfortunately, unless you go to a real nice place like Tweeters or the Big Screen Store. If you play a standard DVD on an HDTV, well... if it is on a DVD player, it will stretch it to a point. you can set the dvd player to make it widescreen or not. if it is set right, it will not distort the image, but it will not look good either. If you have an up-sampling/up-converting DVD player, it will make it fill the screen (if it is wide screen) and resample the image to look better. If you have a BD player, it will do the same thing.

06-03-2008, 08:46 PM	#4
kpkelley Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Framingham, MA 4K collection:385 Blu-ray collection:2478 Digital collection:113 Blu-ray reviews: 152	Blu-ray movies are 1080P. There are a rare few that are 1080i(Short Circuit, Opus Arte Opera's, etc.). None are 720P. DVD's that are upscaled will look as good as they possibly can, but they won't look as good as the Blu-ray's. They should most definitely looked better than they do on a lower resolution set. Don't judge movie image quality from an in-store screen as they are tweaked to all hell. If Transformers was playing on a PS3, then it was a DVD, but I can't comment on how they had it connected or set-up. It may not have been upscaling the image at all and the TV could have had noise reduction on, which would not help.

06-03-2008, 08:47 PM	#5
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	A PS3 will up-sample the image and make it look better than ever on an HDTV. You want to go into a Magnolia center, or other higher end room and look at the TVs in there if you are looking for quality demos. Your old DVD collection will look great, but Blu-rays will look better still.

06-03-2008, 08:51 PM	#6
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	The OAP (Original Aspect Ratio) of a DVD/film is preserved always on a Blu-ray. The aspect ration on a DVD is not always right, but usually close. With a PS3, it will not distort or stretch the image out of shape. it will fill the screen but sometimes will still have the black bars on top and bottom IF the film is wider than the TV (don't worry, it is normal). If you see letterbox it is fine. If you see black bars on the side, it is also fine cause this is what happens on a 4:3 ratio DVD (TV standard def aspect ratio). they are called Pillar Boxes. Trust us, it will look amazing when hooked up right.

06-03-2008, 11:51 PM	#7
KidSqueek Active Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:LOS ANGELES 4K collection:353 Blu-ray collection:470 Digital collection:2 iTunes collection:17	Thanks everyone for your answers. It really cleared things up!

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