TV Size for Viewing 1080p

[EQ3282]

Curious, as there seems to be a lot of debate about this.

I have heard from some that 1080p STARTS to get noticed at 32', but some are dead-set on the fact that you need AT LEAST a 42' to see the difference between 720p and 1080p. Others, still, say that 50'+ is the only size to consider 1080p over 720p.

Please provide your reasoning, as well as why you think companies sell 1080p on smaller screens if it can't be noticed by the average consumer, knowing that is costs more to make a 1080p TV.

[ZMan]

I have a 37" 1080P Sharp Aquos and a 60" 1080P Sony. To me, it's hard to really notice the difference on the 37". However, on the 60" the difference is quite noticeable. Just an observation!

[Moefiz]

Originally Posted by ZMan

I have a 37" 1080P Sharp Aquos and a 60" 1080P Sony. To me, it's hard to really notice the difference on the 37". However, on the 60" the difference is quite noticeable. Just an observation!

I agree...its very hard to notice the differnce.

[X400]

viewing distance is a major concern... i cant find the chart right now but google it

[TimmothyMcPiddles]

I have a 40" Sony and I can see the difference between 720 and 1080, but in all honesty, it's not a huge difference (and yet still a noticeable one).

[JasonR]

VOID poll, include viewing distance!

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by JasonR

VOID poll, include viewing distance!

Yep.... 32" would be a lot better with 1080p if you're using it as a computer monitor

[JasonR]

Originally Posted by X400

viewing distance is a major concern... i cant find the chart right now but google it

This is the most accurate thing on the net, also remember your own eyesight comes into play.

[arush5268d]

Originally Posted by EQ3282

Curious, as there seems to be a lot of debate about this.

I have heard from some that 1080p STARTS to get noticed at 32', but some are dead-set on the fact that you need AT LEAST a 42' to see the difference between 720p and 1080p. Others, still, say that 50'+ is the only size to consider 1080p over 720p.

Please provide your reasoning, as well as why you think companies sell 1080p on smaller screens if it can't be noticed by the average consumer, knowing that is costs more to make a 1080p TV.

32' = 32 feet
42' = 42 feet
50' = 50 feet

Those are some really huge screens

[dobyblue]

Screen size is completely irrelevant without viewing distance factored in.

[chezzy62]

Probably 50", since I have a 52XBR4, it's easier to distinguish from 720P. My viewing distance is about 6-10 feet.

[DavePS3]

To me it's always been the same old story... the bigger the display, the more you notice the imperfections in the picture. On my 31" Loewe CRT, from 8 feet away, up-converted SD to 1080i compared to Blu-Ray 1080i, was not that noticeable at first. Then by accident, I started noticing that on Blu-Ray, I could not see any imperfections like edge ringing, stair-stepping, slight color bleeding even from a foot away. It was rock solid like a photograph but because the image was not a 52" or above, those differences were not that huge. This is why practically no one bothers to make a 42" or 32" 1080p panel... at those sizes, you don't really get the benefit of 1080p. But... try doing a comparison between up-conversion and true 1080p on a projector image at 110" diagonal and the difference is massive. The imperfections on up-conversion become so apparent that it's next to impossible to watch upconverted SD's. The bigger the image, the more you see the restrictions of SD like VHS to DVD or from interlaced to progressive.

For now, I'll say thet I'm extrememly happy running my Loewe Planus on 1080i for both up-converting and Blu-Ray but when I go to a larger panel likely late this year or next year after all the changes in LCD happen, I'll go 52" with 1080p for sure.

The Loewe's image on 1080i, is actually better than most flat panels I've seen running 1080p and I'm pretty critical - I'm in the biz.

[Cromlech]

I can tell appreciate 1080p on my 17" laptop screen, when I am sat right next to it.

[Hamawy]

[QUOTE=JasonR;988403]This is the most accurate thing on the net, also remember your own eyesight comes into play.

Agree. my friend didnt even notice THE big difference between SD & HD monitors. thats because he had to upgrade his glasses.

[BigFoot]

IMO it depends on the viewing distance.

[EQ3282]

Say viewing distance doesn't matter. You are sitting at the ideal distance for each screen size. There are still many on this board that will argue that even at ideal distances, you still won't 'notice' 1080p with certain size TVs. According to the graph, it looks like that it should be noticeable at 32", albeit a small difference. But, many on this board say that 50" is the cut-off.

Bluntly, are they wrong or is the graph wrong?


PS - I know this will now start a 'You need to factor in eyesight and how well you can see.' Lets pretend everyone shares the same seeing ability.

[tilapiah6]

46 inches from a distance of about six to seven feet is VERY NICE!

By the way, Bigfoot NICE TV!!! We have the exact same one.

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by JasonR

This is the most accurate thing on the net, also remember your own eyesight comes into play.

wow, thanks Jason!

yeah I have my 67" 1080p DLP at 8 feet viewing distance
I thought it was kinda close but seems like its perfect on this chart for 1080p
I can see 720p/1080p differences...

in fact, the other day, i accidentally had the PS3 on 720p (i was playing a 720p game so forced the output), and noticed the blu-ray didnt' look as good, so went to the menu and re-selected 1080p and could definitely tell the difference

[natedog543]

With my 47" 1080p you can see a major difference from 720p. I plan to go to a 52" by late summer. but while shopping its seldom you even run across a 1080p smaller then 42". imo thats the smallest you should go ne way

[bluraypride1975]

I have a 46 inch!!!