Pioneer’s breakthrough (consequences). - Blu-ray Forum

Bullseye · 08-05-2008, 05:25 PM

With the advent of Pioneer’s breakthrough and the additional layers of memory (appear to be in 25gig increments) do you think that a 75gig or 100gig disc could be developed for longer than normal films such as LoTR extended cut enabling the very best possible picture and sound.

gandley · 08-05-2008, 05:36 PM

small runs mean more money, unless they actually mass produce 100GB discs it wont happen or it will just up the cost a fair bit.

were also assuming all current players can play a 100GB disc let alone a 500GB one.

I guess we will see in a year or two

Mikeblu · 08-05-2008, 05:36 PM

hell i want BD100 games

quexos · 08-05-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeblu

hell i want BD100 games

And I want 100GB movies for best possible PQ and SQ.
It's nice that they work to make 500 GB discs, but they should focus on making 100 GB discs valid for Movies and not just data

Mikeblu · 08-05-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by quexos

And I want 100GB movies for best possible PQ and SQ.
It's nice that they work to make 500 GB discs, but they should focus on making 100 GB discs valid for Movies and not just data

yer and making them mass produced so there affordable

Bullseye · 08-05-2008, 08:13 PM

It appears that the 500gig disc is compatible. Should be no reason why a 100gig cannot be too. Maybe this will have more applications with PS3 games than actual movies.

vluan57 · 08-05-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullseye

It appears that the 500gig disc is compatible. Should be no reason why a 100gig cannot be too. Maybe this will have more applications with PS3 games than actual movies.

Yeah, I'm kind of disappointed at most PS3 games. I feel like they should be better in terms of graphics. MGS4 was a good game I think, but one of the few that utilized the graphics.

CAB · 08-05-2008, 11:11 PM

I think I'll wait till they get two layers working before I believe this. It has to be fiction.

TheTenth · 08-05-2008, 11:34 PM

maybe it will help game developers use the PS3 at 100%, not having to mind about disc size

Anthony P · 08-06-2008, 12:23 AM

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I think I'll wait till they get two layers working before I believe this. It has to be fiction.

are we 2005?

CAB · 08-06-2008, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony P

are we 2005?

I throw that stuff out hoping that the snake-oil salesman is lurking while "pursuing other opportunities'. Please excuse the sick sense of humor.

dadkins · 08-06-2008, 12:51 AM

I would just like 2-4 movies on a single 100 GB disc.
2 disc set - on one disc!

All the talk about higher quality or even uncompressed on the new 500GB BDs... Higher quality, sure! To a point - ever try to run an uncompressed HD video??
I did, once... ~248mbps uncompressed 44 second, 10.3GB(once unpacked) video named factory.avi

http://www.hdgreetings.com/ecard/video-1080p.aspx

WAY SLOW download.
My laptops play blu-rays perfectly! This?

Laptops(obviously) could not play it.
Someone with a monster computer can probably play it, but no way a STB will play it.

We should hope for mulit-movie discs or whole season discs

blu2 · 08-06-2008, 01:10 AM

Just a pointer to the last discussion - could save some debate:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...65#post1001565

saprano · 08-06-2008, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dadkins

I would just like 2-4 movies on a single 100 GB disc.
2 disc set - on one disc!

All the talk about higher quality or even uncompressed on the new 500GB BDs... Higher quality, sure! To a point - ever try to run an uncompressed HD video??
I did, once... ~248mbps uncompressed 44 second, 10.3GB(once unpacked) video named factory.avi

http://www.hdgreetings.com/ecard/video-1080p.aspx

WAY SLOW download.
My laptops play blu-rays perfectly! This?

Laptops(obviously) could not play it.
Someone with a monster computer can probably play it, but no way a STB will play it.

We should hope for mulit-movie discs or whole season discs

10.3 gigs at 44 seconds? wow so a 2 hour uncompressed movie must be in the terabytes.

dadkins · 08-06-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by saprano

10.3 gigs at 44 seconds? wow so a 2 hour uncompressed movie must be in the terabytes.

Pretty much!
Read speeds will have to be increased slightly to achieve the 248mbps too...

space2001 · 08-06-2008, 04:58 PM

a 4k 10 bit cineon frame is 50 megs

stockstar1138 · 08-06-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by space2001

a 4k 10 bit cineon frame is 50 megs

so thats roughly 1GB/sec.

a movie is about 2 hours, which is 7200 seconds meaning we need 7.2TB on a disc to get a 4k 10 bit frame movie.

Thats doable in 15 years I think (for mass media).

Clark Kent · 08-07-2008, 12:30 AM

Everyone knows BD-50 is science fiction...lol

Septimus Prime · 08-07-2008, 12:35 AM

BD-50 is a joke. Now TL-51—that's the future.

DetroitSquirreL · 11-07-2011, 10:31 AM

I know this is 3 yr old, so any updates?

08-05-2008, 05:25 PM	#1
Bullseye Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Ireland Home Theater Gallery:24 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:760 Blu-ray reviews: 44	Pioneer’s breakthrough (consequences). With the advent of Pioneer’s breakthrough and the additional layers of memory (appear to be in 25gig increments) do you think that a 75gig or 100gig disc could be developed for longer than normal films such as LoTR extended cut enabling the very best possible picture and sound.

08-06-2008, 12:51 AM	#12
dadkins Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Hercules, CA Blu-ray collection:35 Blu-ray reviews:2	I would just like 2-4 movies on a single 100 GB disc. 2 disc set - on one disc! All the talk about higher quality or even uncompressed on the new 500GB BDs... Higher quality, sure! To a point - ever try to run an uncompressed HD video?? I did, once... ~248mbps uncompressed 44 second, 10.3GB(once unpacked) video named factory.avi http://www.hdgreetings.com/ecard/video-1080p.aspx WAY SLOW download. My laptops play blu-rays perfectly! This? Laptops(obviously) could not play it. Someone with a monster computer can probably play it, but no way a STB will play it. We should hope for mulit-movie discs or whole season discs Last edited by dadkins; 08-06-2008 at 01:02 AM.

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08-05-2008, 05:36 PM	#2
gandley Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:The Drowning Pool	small runs mean more money, unless they actually mass produce 100GB discs it wont happen or it will just up the cost a fair bit. were also assuming all current players can play a 100GB disc let alone a 500GB one. I guess we will see in a year or two

08-05-2008, 05:36 PM	#3
Mikeblu Special Member Member since:Oct 2007 Trading Score:1	hell i want BD100 games

08-05-2008, 08:13 PM	#6
Bullseye Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Ireland Home Theater Gallery:24 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:760 Blu-ray reviews: 44	It appears that the 500gig disc is compatible. Should be no reason why a 100gig cannot be too. Maybe this will have more applications with PS3 games than actual movies.

08-05-2008, 11:11 PM	#8
CAB Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Location:::1 4K collection:88 Blu-ray collection:1827 Trading Score:4	I think I'll wait till they get two layers working before I believe this. It has to be fiction.

08-05-2008, 11:34 PM	#9
TheTenth Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Clermont-Ferrand, France Home Theater Gallery:9 4K collection:98 Blu-ray collection:681 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:11	maybe it will help game developers use the PS3 at 100%, not having to mind about disc size

08-06-2008, 01:10 AM	#13
blu2 Special Member Member since:Oct 2007	Just a pointer to the last discussion - could save some debate: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...65#post1001565

08-06-2008, 04:58 PM	#16
space2001 Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007 Trading Score:4	a 4k 10 bit cineon frame is 50 megs

08-07-2008, 12:30 AM	#18
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	Everyone knows BD-50 is science fiction...lol

08-07-2008, 12:35 AM	#19
Septimus Prime Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:164 Trading Score:2	BD-50 is a joke. Now TL-51—that's the future.

11-07-2011, 10:31 AM	#20
DetroitSquirreL Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:Detroit, MI ~ USA Blu-ray collection:513 Trading Score:122	I know this is 3 yr old, so any updates?

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