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Old 08-08-2008, 07:32 PM   #1
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Default Graphic Novels.

Has anyone here dabbled into Graphic Novels? I never really had any interest until I really put together that some of the movies I really love come from graphic novels like V for Vendetta and Sin City. I went out last night and at the suggestion of a friend, purchased The Watchmen. I was a little hesitant as to weather i'd like it but wow, I absolutely love it.

I think these things are absolutely awesome. Once I am done with it I am going to go out and purchase the whole Sin City series. My questions are: Is there anyone here who also enjoys graphic novels and is there any other that someone would suggest I pick up if I love the Watchmen?
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Has anyone here dabbled into Graphic Novels? I never really had any interest until I really put together that some of the movies I really love come from graphic novels like V for Vendetta and Sin City. I went out last night and at the suggestion of a friend, purchased The Watchmen. I was a little hesitant as to weather i'd like it but wow, I absolutely love it.

I think these things are absolutely awesome. Once I am done with it I am going to go out and purchase the whole Sin City series. My questions are: Is there anyone here who also enjoys graphic novels and is there any other that someone would suggest I pick up if I love the Watchmen?
Pick this one up...written by Alan Moore also ...The Killing Joke you can't miss it it has a picture of the Joker laughing on it.
Also you might want to check out The Dark Knight by Frank Miller,From Hell by Moore also.
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:19 PM   #3
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Some of my favorites

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Dawn: Lucifer's Halo
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Preacher
Astro City
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:38 PM   #4
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Oh yeah! There is a comic book store near me (well, it's a few miles from here...like 20 mins or so) anyway, I always pass by it and I never went in there to check it out. But I'm really into comic books. Not until two days ago did I
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:46 PM   #5
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graphic novels are different than trade paperbacks. some being mentioned are trade paperbacks. a graphic novel is one story all by itself contained in one section. usually that's how it is anyway. there are some graphic novels that are a series and all. as for which ones to recommend, that's hard. i haven't read that many but i'll make a short list of the ones i've enjoyed. here you go:


the new mutants
batman: digital justice
excalibur - the sword is drawn
excalbur - weird war III


the list is small, but it's all i can think of at the moment.
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:29 PM   #6
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My questions are: Is there anyone here who also enjoys graphic novels and is there any other that someone would suggest I pick up if I love the Watchmen?
Well I have not considered reading graphic novels to be honest but I really liked the graphics in Sin City or 300 (not sure this one's from a graphic novel)
I'm looking forward to Sin City 2
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Old 08-09-2008, 12:12 AM   #7
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graphic novels are different than trade paperbacks. some being mentioned are trade paperbacks. a graphic novel is one story all by itself contained in one section. usually that's how it is anyway. there are some graphic novels that are a series and all. as for which ones to recommend, that's hard. i haven't read that many but i'll make a short list of the ones i've enjoyed. here you go:


the new mutants
batman: digital justice
excalibur - the sword is drawn
excalbur - weird war III


the list is small, but it's all i can think of at the moment.
Oh, and here I thought comic books and graphic novels were the same lol.
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Old 08-09-2008, 03:25 AM   #8
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I'm going to pick up The Killing Joke and V for Vendetta tomorrow. I'll pick up a few more after their done. Thanks for the suggestions guys!
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Has anyone here dabbled into Graphic Novels?
Sounds like in this context you mean buying/collecting. Myself, no but I wanted to buy a few like Watchmen and V For Vendetta.


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Old 08-09-2008, 04:31 AM   #10
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graphic novels are different than trade paperbacks. some being mentioned are trade paperbacks. a graphic novel is one story all by itself contained in one section. usually that's how it is anyway. there are some graphic novels that are a series and all.
Reading the definitions of both it is hard to tell the difference. Most of the time they are used interchangably

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Old 08-09-2008, 04:48 AM   #11
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I own the I am legend grpahpic novel "based off the book, not the movie".
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Old 08-09-2008, 04:57 AM   #12
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Ghost Rider: "road to damnation" and "trail of tears" (ennis and crain are amazing)
Marvel's "civil war"
V for vendetta
I also hear this "one hundred bullets" is pretty good, but haven't read it yet.
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Old 08-10-2008, 05:30 AM   #13
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Reading the definitions of both it is hard to tell the difference. Most of the time they are used interchangably
this is true. the examples in the post above mine though are good examples of what constitutes a trade paperback and not a graphic novel. civil war was released back in 2006 as an epic cross over mini-series. the trade paperback does not count as a graphic novel since it was already released in comic book form. look at it this way: a graphic novel is usually a separate story that is outside of the character's comic book. it is something that cant be used in the regular series of comic books and therefore is used as a graphic novel. back in the 80's graphic novels were a way of telling more adult stories without getting in trouble from the comic code. most graphic novels in the 80's couldn't be sold to minors.
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this is true. the examples in the post above mine though are good examples of what constitutes a trade paperback and not a graphic novel. civil war was released back in 2006 as an epic cross over mini-series. the trade paperback does not count as a graphic novel since it was already released in comic book form. look at it this way: a graphic novel is usually a separate story that is outside of the character's comic book. it is something that cant be used in the regular series of comic books and therefore is used as a graphic novel. back in the 80's graphic novels were a way of telling more adult stories without getting in trouble from the comic code. most graphic novels in the 80's couldn't be sold to minors.
If that were the case, then the Watchmen graphic novel couldn't be considered a graphic novel. It was first released in comic book form and had a 12 issue run. I've not heard of one single graphic novel that was not at one time released partly as a comic book.
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Old 08-10-2008, 01:31 PM   #15
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Im surprised no one has mentioned Crisis on Infinite Earths... one of the greatest story sagas in comics

( well for all the hype around it i thought it was just ok i guess it has to do with more of When it came out )
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My suggestions if your a Batman fan:

11 Batman: Year One
2- The Man Who Laughs
3- The Long Halloween (ABSOLUTE EDITION, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED)
4- Catwoman: When in Rome
5- Dark Victory
6- Haunted Knight
7- Hush (ABSOLUTE EDITION, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED)
8- The Killing Joke
9- Arkham Asylum
10- The Dark Knight Returns

Oh ya and the current Death of Capt. America collection is real good imo. The 3rd 'volume' is coming out soon so I'd suggest picking up the first 2 as well as Capt' America: Fallen Son.
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V for Vendetta
Watchmen
Preacher
Punisher
Wolverine
Marvel Zombies
Sin City
30 Days of Night
Dark Days
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Ghost Rider: "road to damnation" and "trail of tears" (ennis and crain are amazing)
Marvel's "civil war"
V for vendetta
I also hear this "one hundred bullets" is pretty good, but haven't read it yet.
Totally agree with buck on Gart Ennis on this one.One of the pull no punches kinda a comic book writer out today.

Check Preacher out also
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If that were the case, then the Watchmen graphic novel couldn't be considered a graphic novel. It was first released in comic book form and had a 12 issue run. I've not heard of one single graphic novel that was not at one time released partly as a comic book.
um, all the ones i mentioned i mentioned in my list weren't released as comic books first. plus there are many, many more.like the killing joke. and no i don't think the watchmen is a graphic novel if it was released in comic book form first. most graphic novels were not released first in comic book form. if they were they wouldn't be graphic novels then. they would then be trade paperbacks. i could name tons of great ones like a lot of people are doing, but they're not graphic novels. they're trade paperbacks. a trade paperback collects a story together into one book. whereas a graphic novel is one story self contained usually. here's a better description:


graphic novels -


from wikipedia: A graphic novel is a type of comic book, usually with a lengthy and complex storyline similar to those of novels, and often aimed at mature audiences. The term also encompasses comic short story anthologies, and in some cases bound collections of previously published comic book series (more commonly referred to as trade paperbacks).


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from wikipedia: In comics, a trade paperback (TPB or simply trade) refers to a collection of stories originally published in comic books, reprinted in book format, usually capturing one story arc from a single title or a series of stories with a connected story arc or common theme from one or more titles. Although trade paperback is actually a publishing term that refers to any book with a flexible cardstock cover which is larger than the standard mass market paperback format, comics fans unfamiliar with that meaning have come to use the term to refer to the type of material traditionally sold in comics shops in that format: collected editions of previously-serialized stories. The term graphic novel is sometimes used interchangeably, but some people maintain that the terms are distinct.




the term graphic novel can be used to describe both a trade paperback and a graphic novel, but there is a distinction. that's how i always saw it anyway.
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um, all the ones i mentioned i mentioned in my list weren't released as comic books first. plus there are many, many more.like the killing joke. and no i don't think the watchmen is a graphic novel if it was released in comic book form first. most graphic novels were not released first in comic book form. if they were they wouldn't be graphic novels then. they would then be trade paperbacks. i could name tons of great ones like a lot of people are doing, but they're not graphic novels. they're trade paperbacks. a trade paperback collects a story together into one book. whereas a graphic novel is one story self contained usually. here's a better description:

You just lost your own arguement.
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In 2003, it was reprinted in the trade paperback Across the Universe: The DC Universe Stories of Alan Moore (ISBN 1-4012-0087-7) and was released in a deluxe edition in March 2008.[1] The Deluxe Edition featured new coloring by Brian Bolland, meant to illustrate his original intentions for the book, with more somber, realistic, subdued colors than the intensely colored original.
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