PS3 Blu-ray Disc Support

[Mezzanineold]

With recent rumors suggesting that there may be two different versions of the PS3 console due out sometime in 2005-2006, is there any room for imagination that one of them might support the BD format? The PSX [still not due until later this year in America] is rumored to have the capability to have its hardware upgraded to PS3 specifications once the actual PS3 console debutes. Although there have been no specific details for what this "upgrade" may be, one must wonder if this, or perhaps the PS3 console itself may support Blue-Ray disc technology.

Anyone ... ?[/b]

[HardcoreGamer]

The only way we as consumers can be sure Sony will integrate the Blue-ray disc hardware into the PS3 is to tell them how we feel. If they see the support for it in numbers, then there is always a better chance.

That is why I propose a petition -starting now- to have the PS3 include the BRD hardware into its next generation console. All those other gamers out there know what I mean! We want the best graphics, sound, and gameplay. And with the BRD format, not only will Sony upscale all the competetion, but lead the way into the future of technology.

Who's with me???

[Mezzanineold]

You can count me in. I feel just as strongly as you do when it comes to video games and new technology. Sony is the best when it comes to the newest and latest goodies for us tech-heads. You never know though; Sony might just announce what we're hoping for at E3 in May. Keep your fingers crossed. And in the meantime: If you are reading this, we hope you will help support the petition the HardcoreGamer suggested.

[Blu-Wave]

According to Kiyoshi Nishitani, Sony's managing director in charge of Blu-ray Disc development and next-generation home electronics, the Playstation 3 [PS3], due out next year, is likely to be fully HDTV (1920 by 1080 pixel) compatible, and to incorporate a (Blu-ray) BD-ROM drive which can also play existing CDs and DVDs. As well as playing games, when linked up to an appropriate display, it will be able to play 1920 by 1080p24 cinema mode films – offering levels of picture quality previously only seen in cinemas.

A subsequent move from MPeg2 to Mpeg4 video compression would leave plenty of space and bandwidth for uncompressed 7.1 or more channel SACD sound - for the real cinema experience - only better, and great for live concerts...

[Psychogenicscc]

Originally Posted by Blu-Wave

According to Kiyoshi Nishitani, Sony's managing director in charge of Blu-ray Disc development and next-generation home electronics, the Playstation 3 [PS3], due out next year, is likely to be fully HDTV (1920 by 1080 pixel) compatible, and to incorporate a (Blu-ray) BD-ROM drive which can also play existing CDs and DVDs. As well as playing games, when linked up to an appropriate display, it will be able to play 1920 by 1080p24 cinema mode films – offering levels of picture quality previously only seen in cinemas.

A subsequent move from MPeg2 to Mpeg4 video compression would leave plenty of space and bandwidth for uncompressed 7.1 or more channel SACD sound - for the real cinema experience - only better, and great for live concerts...

Nice Very Nice Thanx alot.

[ske-zo]

The only problem is that Sony plans on continuing their system's backward compatability, making the PS3 backwards compatable with PS2 games (and even PSOne games through emulation). In order to do this, they MUST have the current generation disc lazer in the system to read these DVD and CD formats because the Blue-Ray cannot read ordinary (red-lazer) DVDs and CDs.
Including both of these lazers would be rather costly, so it cannot be said just yet if the PS3 will use the Blue-Ray. I sure hope they do. Maybe in another year they will be able to include both lazers for much cheaper.

[Blu-Wave]

Note that the first Blu-ray machine, the Sony BDZ-S77, released over a year ago, also plays DVDs and CDs, and DVD players must also accommodate CDs for backwards compatibility. Yes it costs more to have a second red laser (and possibly lens), but red lasers are very cheap these days, and you can buy a whole DVD player (with CD compatibility) for around £20. Because of its advantages, I would not see the extra cost of backwards compatibility being a issue on a product costing several hundred pounds or more. Backwards compatibility is easily achievable, and is too important to the acceptance of Blu-ray to leave out. If your new Blu-ray recorder couldn't play all of your DVD collection you would be pretty annoyed - and rightly so. Backwards compatibility has been planned from the outset within the consumer area.

[Marwin]

This all-in-one BD, DVD, CD optical head was just announced yesterday by Sony

Development of Blu-ray Disc, DVD and CD compatible, 3 wavelength recording/playback Optical Head
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200405/04-026E/

It should even work for recording.

[Blu-Wave]

The triple wavelength optical head shows Sony's commitment to backwards compatibility. Whilst Blu-ray has had single object lens systems in research for some time, HD-DVD (AOD) has promoted its ability to use a single objective lens - even when no commercial HD-DVD product exists. Sony's three wavelength record and playback system not only uses a single objective lens, but also requires only one more optical component than a Blu-ray [BD] only system. :P

This will do much to bring the cost and size of BD/DVD/CD compatible players and recorders down, and removes a criticism of Blu-ray using two optical heads - based upon the simple expedient of getting backwards compatible Blu-ray product out (the BDZ-S77) in early 2003.

[ske-zo]

Hey, great link Marwin!
That page will be great for the paper I'm writting on the Blu-Ray for my Technical Communications project.

That's awesome, I figured Sony would put that together eventually.
Of course Sony's BDZ-S77 has DVD/CD playback (CD along with DVD is a given) because it would otherwise serve no purpose but to burn and watch your own Blu-ray discs, and that would suck. But the thing costs over $3,000 and the PS3 will HAVE to be priced under $400 (likely $299, just like the PSOne and PS2 cost at their launch). The question is... Will the PS3 have burning capabilities? I think not, so that drops the price a good deal.
... Unless Sony goes along with the new PSX concept... They might actually release two different hardware options as speculated: one with no burning capabilities-just your gaming system, and another with a burner and a Tivo hard drive for a few hunded bucks more.

My previous post was pretty concerned with the fact that game console sales never make the companies any money (they actually loose money on hardware sales, it's the software publishing that brings the dough), so Sony might be a little hard pressed to keep the hardware costs to a minimum. This new 3-wavelength head is just what the PS3 will need, I'm stoked!

[Blu-Wave]

Sony confirms that the playstation 3 is to feature BD-ROM and play back high definition movies as well as DVDs (and of course new, highly detailed games as well as PS2 titles). The PS3 and high definition video [BD-ROM] playback units are expected to hit the market in early 2005. See:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content...e=dev&aid=3919

[Xerios]

has this been confirmed??

[Another_Dude]

You seriously just bumped a thread from Bush's first term?

[Wreck]

Oh my o my .... Xerios ... are you SERIOUS? bumping a thread from 2004! hehehe

[Wreck]

Originally Posted by Another_Dude

You seriously just bumped a thread from Bush's first term?

LMAO ... yeah talk about total fail, gotta get our jibs in for now

[Xerios]

what can i say, im a controverial guy heh.. with over 150 BD's i think i know the answer :rollseyes:

[adh56]

This thread is so 2004!