rf-82'S 2.1 system advice

[TENSE]

well people i have yet another question to ask you guys.
well i wanted to know if a pair of klipsch 82's would be enough power
to handle the bass in a 2.0 sytem with out having to purchase a seperate
subwoofer? i am a little tight in my budget right now so for the mean while i will have to stick to a 2.0 system. by the way my living room size is 13x16.
eventually i will purchase my center and a pair of rf-52's for my soround to complete my 5.1 system.

[allstar780]

if its not in your budget right now don't worry about the subwoofer. I have the RF-35s (the old model of the 82s) and I often listen to music without the sub. Basically just stick with the towers in 2.0 for now, and when you have the money to buy a good subwoofer, then do so

[RIPSeanTaylor21]

Originally Posted by TENSE

well people i have yet another question to ask you guys.
well i wanted to know if a pair of klipsch 82's would be enough power
to handle the bass in a 2.0 sytem with out having to purchase a seperate
subwoofer? i am a little tight in my budget right now so for the mean while i will have to stick to a 2.0 system. by the way my living room size is 13x16.
eventually i will purchase my center and a pair of rf-52's for my soround to complete my 5.1 system.

Trust me You will be fine, I just got my sub just to get an extra push, and I love heavy bass also, the RF-82's will do just fine by itself. You should have them biamped tho.

[Slec]

i agree with All Star. I had an old sub with my RF-82's and it might as well have not been plugged in. It was an old HTiB sub, 8" no less, and bass from the fronts was far better (accurate and full). using just the towers will give you a solid foundation but in the future, you'll get a bump from using a dedicated sub.

[TENSE]

Originally Posted by RIPSeanTaylor21

Trust me You will be fine, I just got my sub just to get an extra push, and I love heavy bass also, the RF-82's will do just fine by itself. You should have them biamped tho.

hey can any one show me a picture of an example of biampeding speakers please?
i dont know what is is and i would appreciate it.!

[RIPSeanTaylor21]

Originally Posted by TENSE

hey can any one show me a picture of an example of biampeding speakers please?
i dont know what is is and i would appreciate it.!

Hey Bro,

This is what Nezff, sent me A while ago, when I asked the same question. It was really easy to hook up and set up via A/V reciever. Just the Terminology was confusing. Please don't laugh at it, I love my 82's biampd' heres a small diagram via Nezff..... ENJOY IT.. BTW...MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE BRASS STRAPS REMOVED FIRST, note: The white box to the right of the diagram represents the Klipsch Tower

[TENSE]

Originally Posted by RIPSeanTaylor21

Hey Bro,

This is what Nezff, sent me A while ago, when I asked the same question. It was really easy to hook up and set up via A/V reciever. Just the Terminology was confusing. Please don't laugh at it, I love my 82's biampd' heres a small diagram via Nezff..... ENJOY IT.. BTW...MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE BRASS STRAPS REMOVED FIRST, note: The white box to the right of the diagram represents the Klipsch Tower

oh ok so we basicly just use all 4 negative and positive conections. lol
well i was originaly going to do that guess i was right all along.! thanx
RIPSeanTaylor21 for the help, but wat if you just used only 2 terminals?

[Slec]

and to follow up on that

...bi-amping provides separate tweeter and woofer feeds for a pair of front speakers, providing improved bass and treble performance

Some swear by bi-amping, some don't notice a difference. you'll have to mess around and figure out what sounds best to you. There's also probably a setting in your receiver so that it sends out a bi-amped signal instead of surround signals so make sure your AVR can provide this feature.

[allstar780]

Originally Posted by TENSE

oh ok so we basicly just use all 4 negative and positive conections. lol
well i was originaly going to do that guess i was right all along.! thanx
RIPSeanTaylor21 for the help, but wat if you just used only 2 terminals?

then you are simply bi-wiring... which has little advantage in my experience

[TENSE]

Originally Posted by Slec

and to follow up on that


Some swear by bi-amping, some don't notice a difference. you'll have to mess around and figure out what sounds best to you. There's also probably a setting in your receiver so that it sends out a bi-amped signal instead of surround signals so make sure your AVR can provide this feature.

im pritty sure the pioneer elite 94 would hgave this future right?

[TENSE]

Originally Posted by allstar780

then you are simply bi-wiring... which has little advantage in my experience

why would it have an advantage?
please care to explain?
i would love to know as much as possible!

[allstar780]

the advantage to bi-wiring is supposed to be less overall resistance (because the signals have twice as many paths) but it does not send highs and lows out separately like bi-amping does, you are sending the same high-low signal to both the high and low inputs on the speaker... thus the speaker does just as much work as if you just left the brass straps on and ran a single set of wires

[Slec]

Originally Posted by TENSE

im pritty sure the pioneer elite 94 would hgave this future right?

Absolutely. Instructions are on p 57 of the manual

[TENSE]

so let me get this straight; when i bi-amp,conecting all for speaker ports to the receiver, i get more bass and treble? and when i only use 2 speaker ports to connect to my reciever it would be called bi-wiring? which is good for hier frequency's? i have no sub, and i dont plan to purchase one, so in my case i would be better suited for bi-amping my klipsch rf-82's to get better bass and lower frequency signals right? am i on the right page? or am i missing someting?

[allstar780]

Bi Amping is not THAT big of an improvement, but if you have the speaker wire to do it, the extra bit of improvement you get is worth it.

Bi Wiring is simply connecting 2 sets of wire (4 ends) to the back of the speaker, but only connecting those wires to one set of terminals on the receiver

Bi Amping is using 2 sets of wire connected to 2 separate sets of terminals on the receiver.


I would recommend a subwoofer when you finally upgrade to 5.1 but for now the towers will do fine.

[TENSE]

Originally Posted by allstar780

Bi Amping is not THAT big of an improvement, but if you have the speaker wire to do it, the extra bit of improvement you get is worth it.

Bi Wiring is simply connecting 2 sets of wire (4 ends) to the back of the speaker, but only connecting those wires to one set of terminals on the receiver

Bi Amping is using 2 sets of wire connected to 2 separate sets of terminals on the receiver.


I would recommend a subwoofer when you finally upgrade to 5.1 but for now the towers will do fine.

oh ok, i now undesrtand, i will bi-wire for the mean time, and after completing my 5.1 set up, and i have extra money i would purchase extra wire to bi-amp. now would you recomend a pair of klipsch rf-52's for suround speakers? or would surrousnd spekers be better?

[allstar780]

Originally Posted by TENSE

oh ok, i now undesrtand, i will bi-wire for the mean time, and after completing my 5.1 set up, and i have extra money i would purchase extra wire to bi-amp. now would you recomend a pair of klipsch rf-52's for suround speakers? or would surrousnd spekers be better?

Umm... if you have the wire to bi-wire, you have the wire to bi-amp. You need 2 sets of wire for each to do both.

As for surrounds... it depends on the room layout... if you would be kinda cramming the towers into a corner, I'd go with RS-52s instead. If you have the room to do towers, great.

[jomari]

biamping research material

for all your inquiries.

[TENSE]

[BLUTRIG]

In my pioneer elite SC-09TX manual on page 10,under 5.2-channel Bi-amp connections,Features:The front,center and surround channels are all reproduced with high quality(bi-amp).Fewer speakers are used than with other patterns and the maximum number of channels is 5.2, but this pattern provides the highest sound quality.(My opinion it sound great,more on page 12 & 70.) I only had my front left & front right Bi-amp on my elite VSX-94TXH receiver,the sound was very impressive.( I Bi-amp to save money on speakers and I only have room for 5 speakers & I think it sound better( my opinion and page 10 opinion only ).