As an Amazon associate we earn from qualifying purchases. Thanks for your support!                               
×

Best iTunes Music Deals


Best iTunes Music Deals, See All the Deals »
Top deals | New deals  
 All countries United States United Kingdom Canada Germany France Spain Italy Australia Netherlands Japan Mexico
The Beach Boys: The Very Best Of The Beach Boys: Sounds Of Summer (iTunes)
$44.99
 
Scott Walker: 'Til the Band Comes In (iTunes)
$9.99
 
M.M. Keeravani: RRR, Vol. 2 (iTunes)
$8.99
 
M.M. Keeravani: RRR, Vol. 7 (iTunes)
$7.99
 
Berliner Instrumentalisten, Mikis Theodorakis & Rundfunkchor Berlin: Canto General (iTunes)
$19.99
 
The Rolling Stones: Some Girls (iTunes)
$9.99
 
The Rolling Stones: Sticky Fingers (iTunes)
$9.99
 
Hungarian State Symphony Orchestra, Lukas Karytinos & Mikis Theodorakis: Zorba - The Ballet (iTunes)
$9.99
 
Roger Eno: Little Things Left Behind 1988 - 1998 (iTunes)
$9.99
 
OneRepublic: Waking Up (iTunes)
$9.99
 
The Pointer Sisters: The Pointer Sisters (iTunes)
$9.99
 
Lynyrd Skynyrd: 20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection: Best Of Lynyrd Syknyrd (iTunes)
$7.99
 
What's your next favorite movie?
Join our movie community to find out


Image from: Life of Pi (2012)

Go Back   Blu-ray Forum > Audio > Audio Theory and Discussion
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-14-2008, 12:05 AM   #1
zak88lx zak88lx is offline
Active Member
 
zak88lx's Avatar
 
Nov 2007
Calgary, AB
2
768
2
Default Blu-ray audio codecs. What does the future hold?

Are there any new audio codecs planned for release in the next few years?

Most Blu-ray players are able to handle all of the audio codecs listed below via internal decoding or bitstream output but what about the future codecs?

- Linear PCM
- Dolby Digital
- Dolby Digital Plus
- Dolby TrueHD
- DTS Digital Surround
- DTS-HD Master Audio
- DTS-HD High Resolution Audio

Are the above audio codecs locked down for a while or are we going to need replacement Blu-ray players in a couple of years for the new audio codecs?

Thanks,
Zak

Last edited by zak88lx; 09-14-2008 at 01:15 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2008, 12:07 AM   #2
CAB CAB is offline
Blu-ray Guru
 
CAB's Avatar
 
Jul 2007
::1
88
1827
4
Default

Bionic implants to improve hearing and wireless transmissions directly into the brain. DTS is working on it now.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2008, 12:39 AM   #3
Big Daddy Big Daddy is offline
Blu-ray Champion
 
Big Daddy's Avatar
 
Jan 2008
Southern California
79
122
1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zak88lx View Post
Are there any new audio codecs planned for release in the next few years?

Most Blu-ray players are able to handle all of the audio codecs listed below via internal decoding or bitstream output but what about the future codecs?

- Linear PCM
- Dolby Digital
- Dolby Digital Plus
- Dolby TrueHD
- DTS Digital Surround
- DTS-HD Master Audio

Are the above audio codecs locked down for a while or are we going to need replacement Blu-ray players in a couple of years for the new audio codecs?

Thanks,
Zak
You missed DTS HD High Resoulution (DTS HD HR).
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2008, 01:07 AM   #4
zak88lx zak88lx is offline
Active Member
 
zak88lx's Avatar
 
Nov 2007
Calgary, AB
2
768
2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Daddy View Post
You missed DTS HD High Resoulution (DTS HD HR).
I will add this to the list.
Are any Blu-rays using this codec?
Can you list one.

Thanks,
Zak
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2008, 03:33 AM   #5
Yeha-Noha Yeha-Noha is offline
Power Member
 
Yeha-Noha's Avatar
 
Jan 2008
43
Default

I wish I had a crystal ball to portend what the future holds.

However, I can tell you what the future ought to hold, in my opinion.

We need to have one and only one format that is lossless and universally playable on any BD player. Yup, you probably guessed it, PCM.

How is that possible since new BDs coming out these days seldom have PCM audio tracks?

I'll tell you how:

BD-Live to the rescue! Special features, extras, interactive menus, and all the other extra stuff we get on BDs can be downloaded off the internet by your BD player. The freed up BD space will allow the reinstatement of PCM as the standard universal audio format on BDs. After all, decoded DTS-HD MA is PCM anyway. The studios won't have to pay licensing fees to Dolby Labs or DTS anymore either. That means cheaper BDs and players. DTS-HD MA and DD TrueHD as competing audio formats can thus die out, the sooner the better. A house divided cannot stand.

P-C-M!!! P-C-M!!! We want P-C-M!!! P-C-M!!! P-C-M!!! We want P-C-M!!!P-C-M!!! P-C-M!!! We want P-C-M!!!

I wish that will happen. But I know it's only wishful thinking.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2008, 03:51 AM   #6
BozQ BozQ is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
BozQ's Avatar
 
Jun 2007
Singapore
-
-
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rwojtalewicz View Post
I wish I had a crystal ball to portend what the future holds.

However, I can tell you what the future ought to hold, in my opinion.

We need to have one and only one format that is lossless and universally playable on any BD player. Yup, you probably guessed it, PCM.

How is that possible since new BDs coming out these days seldom have PCM audio tracks?

I'll tell you how:

BD-Live to the rescue! Special features, extras, interactive menus, and all the other extra stuff we get on BDs can be downloaded off the internet by your BD player. The freed up BD space will allow the reinstatement of PCM as the standard universal audio format on BDs. After all, decoded DTS-HD MA is PCM anyway. The studios won't have to pay licensing fees to Dolby Labs or DTS anymore either. That means cheaper BDs and players. DTS-HD MA and DD TrueHD as competing audio formats can thus die out, the sooner the better. A house divided cannot stand.

P-C-M!!! P-C-M!!! We want P-C-M!!! P-C-M!!! P-C-M!!! We want P-C-M!!!P-C-M!!! P-C-M!!! We want P-C-M!!!

I wish that will happen. But I know it's only wishful thinking.
Honestly, that's what I hope the future will be.

- Using only one single PCM 5.1 soundtrack for all films
- Or PCM 7.1 for any film that was originally mixed for cinema releases as Dolby Digital EX, DTS-ES or SDDS-8C
- Once PCM is used, no other HD codecs to be used.
- No foreign dubs, but use foreign subs, unless it's a regional release.
- Commentary in Dolby Digital 2.0 192kbps.
- And use the remaining disc space for video.

But like you, I think the damage is done. Oh well.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2008, 04:15 AM   #7
Clark Kent Clark Kent is offline
Blu-ray Prince
 
Clark Kent's Avatar
 
Oct 2007
Metropolis
2
184
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zak88lx View Post
I will add this to the list.
Are any Blu-rays using this codec?
Can you list one.

Thanks,
Zak
Several early BDs had DTS-HD HR audio like Basic Instinct and Total Recall. The one noticeable audio format left off the Blu-ray standard was DSD. Strange since Sony was the main proponent of DSD.

Last edited by Clark Kent; 09-14-2008 at 04:17 AM.
  Reply With Quote
Reply
Go Back   Blu-ray Forum > Audio > Audio Theory and Discussion

Similar Threads
thread Forum Thread Starter Replies Last Post
Blu-Ray Codecs Question: Blu-Ray and HD-DVD codecs? Blu-ray Technology and Future Technology OrlandoEastwood 2 02-11-2009 10:45 PM
Question on new Blu ray and audio codecs? Home Theater General Discussion Sherm 5 10-06-2008 11:53 PM
Why PCM should be the future of Blu-ray audio, not TrueHD/DTS-HDMA Blu-ray Technology and Future Technology mov9384ie 38 12-10-2007 08:18 PM
Questions on all newer audio codecs used in Blu-ray and hd dvd Blu-ray Technology and Future Technology BozQ 0 07-02-2007 02:50 PM
Lossless audio codecs on Blu-ray discs Blu-ray PCs, Laptops, Drives, Media and Software Bruce Morrison 3 03-04-2007 09:59 AM



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:51 AM.