RGB Limited or Full? - Blu-ray Forum

Pelican170 · 10-08-2008, 06:32 PM

Ok, ive read many discussions regarding this setting, but no solid answer. What exactly is the correct setting? I notice on my tv that when put to limited, the black levels and colors seem dull when compared to Full. So is full the correct way to go?

Marine Mike · 10-08-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

Ok, ive read many discussions regarding this setting, but no solid answer. What exactly is the correct setting? I notice on my tv that when put to limited, the black levels and colors seem dull when compared to Full. So is full the correct way to go?

It all depends if your TV is capable of handling it. My TV isn't and I know that because when I have it set to full everything is extremely dark and I cannot make out night scenes for the life of me. So if you do not have extreme darkness when enabled then I say its the right setting. What made the huge difference for me is when I was watching Ratatouille and was turning it on and off during the scene where The Main Character is throwing the rat into the river after catching it in the jar.

aramis109 · 10-08-2008, 06:38 PM

It's just a bigger range, from 0 to 215(?) instead of starting at 12. It's only going to be worthwhile if your TV supports it. Check the manual. Like Mike said, if it doesn't you'll just end up crushing blacks out the wazoo as everything below the threshold of "limited" will be seen as absolute black.

They should honestly call it "Standard" and "PC" or something though- Limited is a misnomer. It's typically for use in the PC world.

Pelican170 · 10-08-2008, 06:44 PM

ok, maybe this is a dumb question, but when im looking in my tv manual, what exactly am i looking for? Or will it say, something like "accepts full RGB..."?

nhaase · 10-08-2008, 06:55 PM

Do some searching, because I remember seeing this subject a while back, but cannot remember the thread title. There is a picture w/ the numbers 1234 displayed w/ increasing brightness against a black background. If you put that on your TV through the PS3 set the RGB to what lets you see all the numbers. I believe mine is set to limited.

Again, I believe there is a thread which explains this on this forum, and why to set it to Limited. If I find it I'll post the link.

Pelican170 · 10-08-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nhaase

Do some searching, because I remember seeing this subject a while back, but cannot remember the thread title. There is a picture w/ the numbers 1234 displayed w/ increasing brightness against a black background. If you put that on your TV through the PS3 set the RGB to what lets you see all the numbers. I believe mine is set to limited.

Again, I believe there is a thread which explains this on this forum, and why to set it to Limited. If I find it I'll post the link.

ok thanks man. I just checked my manual and it made no mention of anything for RGB...

nhaase · 10-08-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

ok thanks man. I just checked my manual and it made no mention of anything for RGB...

Here's the other thread which talked about this:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=45003

The 1234 picture of which I wrote is on the first page of the linked thread. Again, use the setting which allows you to see all the numbers.

Quick note: The number 1 is very faint, and glare on your screen from a light may mask it, so make sure you set this in the same environment in which you watch movies.

Pelican170 · 10-08-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nhaase

Here's the other thread which talked about this:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=45003

The 1234 picture of which I wrote is on the first page of the linked thread. Again, use the setting which allows you to see all the numbers.

Quick note: The number 1 is very faint, and glare on your screen from a light may mask it, so make sure you set this in the same environment in which you watch movies.

Ok great, i appreciate the help!

Psx0005 · 10-08-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nhaase

Here's the other thread which talked about this:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=45003

The 1234 picture of which I wrote is on the first page of the linked thread. Again, use the setting which allows you to see all the numbers.

Quick note: The number 1 is very faint, and glare on your screen from a light may mask it, so make sure you set this in the same environment in which you watch movies.

Still have the pic saved in my Photos section on the PS3 nhaase, that helped greatly a while back and I always refer to the pic whenever I swap the PS3 out on other TV's

Pelican170 · 10-08-2008, 10:44 PM

Thanks again guys, got home and tested it out. Appears that my Sammy DLP does in fact accept full...

blu-dave · 10-08-2008, 10:47 PM

Full on my tv makes the colours too dark and realy too strong.

Clark Kent · 10-08-2008, 11:29 PM

For properly watching dvds and BDs, RBG Limited is the correct setting for the vast majority of displays. RBG Full should be used for PS3 games.

kingofgrills · 10-09-2008, 04:16 PM

They really need to update the firmware, so 'full' or 'limited' can be selected for both movies and games. Toggling back and forth, depending on what you're doing, is a pain in the @ss.

Pelican170 · 10-09-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blu-dave

Full on my tv makes the colours too dark and realy too strong.

what if you re-calibrate your set using Full?? Full looks much better on my DLP. Limited looks washed out..

Entertainment72 · 10-09-2008, 06:36 PM

Limited gives my TV (sony 1080p SXRD A3000 60") some serious black awful crush.. Full give it deep blacks.. vibrant colors.. Blu rays look awesome in Full.. really bad on limited.

10-08-2008, 06:32 PM	#1
Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:735 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	RGB Limited or Full? Ok, ive read many discussions regarding this setting, but no solid answer. What exactly is the correct setting? I notice on my tv that when put to limited, the black levels and colors seem dull when compared to Full. So is full the correct way to go?

10-08-2008, 11:29 PM	#12
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	For properly watching dvds and BDs, RBG Limited is the correct setting for the vast majority of displays. RBG Full should be used for PS3 games. Last edited by Clark Kent; 10-08-2008 at 11:35 PM.

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10-08-2008, 06:38 PM	#3
aramis109 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:360 Trading Score:18	It's just a bigger range, from 0 to 215(?) instead of starting at 12. It's only going to be worthwhile if your TV supports it. Check the manual. Like Mike said, if it doesn't you'll just end up crushing blacks out the wazoo as everything below the threshold of "limited" will be seen as absolute black. They should honestly call it "Standard" and "PC" or something though- Limited is a misnomer. It's typically for use in the PC world.

10-08-2008, 06:44 PM	#4
Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:735 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	ok, maybe this is a dumb question, but when im looking in my tv manual, what exactly am i looking for? Or will it say, something like "accepts full RGB..."?

10-08-2008, 06:55 PM	#5
nhaase Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Trading Score:2	Do some searching, because I remember seeing this subject a while back, but cannot remember the thread title. There is a picture w/ the numbers 1234 displayed w/ increasing brightness against a black background. If you put that on your TV through the PS3 set the RGB to what lets you see all the numbers. I believe mine is set to limited. Again, I believe there is a thread which explains this on this forum, and why to set it to Limited. If I find it I'll post the link.

10-08-2008, 10:44 PM	#10
Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:735 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	Thanks again guys, got home and tested it out. Appears that my Sammy DLP does in fact accept full...

10-08-2008, 10:47 PM	#11
blu-dave Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:England	Full on my tv makes the colours too dark and realy too strong.

10-09-2008, 04:16 PM	#13
kingofgrills Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Dec 2007 Location:PDX Home Theater Gallery:31 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:81 Trading Score:31	They really need to update the firmware, so 'full' or 'limited' can be selected for both movies and games. Toggling back and forth, depending on what you're doing, is a pain in the @ss.

10-09-2008, 06:36 PM	#15
Entertainment72 Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Fort Myers, FL Blu-ray collection:44 Blu-ray reviews:1	Limited gives my TV (sony 1080p SXRD A3000 60") some serious black awful crush.. Full give it deep blacks.. vibrant colors.. Blu rays look awesome in Full.. really bad on limited.

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