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Old 11-28-2008, 09:23 PM   #1
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Hi! I'm new I just got a Blu-ray Disc Player with 1080p Output, My HD tv is a westing house LTV-19w6 I want to say around 2 years old? I have a hd cable box. Now to have my dvd player hooked up I have a module box with yellow white and red wires. Today I went to Radio shack to get HDMI video to make the standard dvd's better quality I brought my manual with me and my tv does not have the port. So I got a monster flat screen cable with the wired red green blue 3 of them go in the back on the tv, and the other 3 in the back of the blu-ray player. Now the guy said it would up my standard dvd's 3 times but I see no difference. In some scenes I see grain and lines. Also he said the blu-ray quality would be 3 times better! I rented a blu-ray dvd the quality is really nice like watching a HD movie. But the sound not so great the sound on my tv was never great. Do I need speakers? Or should the blu-ray still have great sound? I did also notice grain in some scenes while playing the DVD although it's a rented dvd could that be it?

I basically would like to know If I have to have a brand new tv to get the full blu-ray quality? At blockbuster they had a tv with amazing quality. I have to say mine is not the same!
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Old 11-28-2008, 09:34 PM   #2
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Red / White = Stereo 2 ch sound
Yellow = Composite video

these are bottom of the rung for quality

no HDMI.. ok ..next best is Component ( 3 wire )( YPbPr )
Connect the 3 colors, Yellow, Blue, Red, from the player to the TV,

For Sound, check out our speaker section for suggestions
This should net you a nice pic w/ stereo sound
next step... surround sound

http://www.xpcgear.com/ltv19w6.html

what kind of player did you get ??

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Old 11-28-2008, 09:48 PM   #3
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HDMI and component video are the two types of cables that carry HD video. The quality of HD video on Blu-ray will be much better using component instead of the yellow composite cable because the source material is HD. The improvement on DVDs will be marginal because they are only 480i to begin with. The salesman oversold on that one. btw, try monoprice.com for cables. They are much cheaper and every bit as good.

For audio, your TV speakers can't handle the improved, surround sound of BDs or DVDs. You need to get a sound system and speakers.
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:31 PM   #4
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you definately need a receiver and speakers. I have no idea how people even hear anything from tv speakers
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Old 11-28-2008, 11:10 PM   #5
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HDMI and component video are the two types of cables that carry HD video. The quality of HD video on Blu-ray will be much better using component instead of the yellow composite cable because the source material is HD. The improvement on DVDs will be marginal because they are only 480i to begin with. The salesman oversold on that one. btw, try monoprice.com for cables. They are much cheaper and every bit as good.

For audio, your TV speakers can't handle the improved, surround sound of BDs or DVDs. You need to get a sound system and speakers.
That's what I got today component cables. But he said it would bring the stand dvd's 3 times better. but I see no change. what does 480i mean? it says on the box it's 720p/1080i/ my tv is 1080i i'm using that resolution on the br player!

I also have to use a module box with the yellow white wires otherwise my dvd player won't work. Because my hd cable box wires have to be hooked up in the back of the tv!
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Old 11-28-2008, 11:32 PM   #6
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I say you need a reciever with hdmi inputs for starts, then work on your speaker setup. Its not a cheap hobby

3 times better picture playing dvds?? Wow!!
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Old 11-28-2008, 11:36 PM   #7
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That's what I got today component cables. But he said it would bring the stand dvd's 3 times better. but I see no change. what does 480i mean? it says on the box it's 720p/1080i/ my tv is 1080i i'm using that resolution on the br player!
BDs are high definition and are usually recorded at 1080p. That's the number of lines of resolution. More lines = more detailed images. DVDs are standard definition and are recorded at 480i. The Blu-ray player or your TV will take the 480 line image and make it work on a 1080 line display. But, neither device can create content that isn't there. So, DVDs will be better. But, they won't suddenly turn into HD.

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I also have to use a module box with the yellow white wires otherwise my dvd player won't work. Because my hd cable box wires have to be hooked up in the back of the tv!
I don't get a clear picture of how you are wired together.
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Old 11-28-2008, 11:38 PM   #8
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That's what I got today component cables. But he said it would bring the stand dvd's 3 times better. but I see no change. what does 480i mean? it says on the box it's 720p/1080i/ my tv is 1080i i'm using that resolution on the br player!

I also have to use a module box with the yellow white wires otherwise my dvd player won't work. Because my hd cable box wires have to be hooked up in the back of the tv!
480i is the resolution of what's on the DVD. DVD are recorded in MPEG2 at 720x480i. While component don't get you're DVD 3 times better. It's the best connection after SVideo and can carry upto 1080i in resolution. Video (YELLOW) being the 2nd Worst after RF

Blu-ray are recorded in 1080p/1080i on the disc.
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Old 11-28-2008, 11:48 PM   #9
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BDs are high definition and are usually recorded at 1080p. That's the number of lines of resolution. More lines = more detailed images. DVDs are standard definition and are recorded at 480i. The Blu-ray player or your TV will take the 480 line image and make it work on a 1080 line display. But, neither device can create content that isn't there. So, DVDs will be better. But, they won't suddenly turn into HD.

I don't get a clear picture of how you are wired together.
ok. my dvd's some scenes {blu-ray dvd} has lines on it. which it shouldn't even on my old standard dvd player i got the same thing. This doesn't seem like HD at all. although it's not a brand new dvd.

I have a HD cable box with the YPBR cables red green and blue in the back on the tv and into the cable box. then I have red and white audio cables in the back of the tv into the cable box.

then I have a RF Modulator with white and yellow wires in the back of the box and then going into the blu-ray player. without the box my dvd player won't play because the cables wires are hooked up to my tv!
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Old 11-28-2008, 11:49 PM   #10
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480i is the resolution of what's on the DVD. DVD are recorded in MPEG2 at 720x480i. While component don't get you're DVD 3 times better. It's the best connection after SVideo and can carry upto 1080i in resolution. Video (YELLOW) being the 2nd Worst after RF

Blu-ray are recorded in 1080p/1080i on the disc.
Ok because the dvd's look the same as they did on my regular dvd player with grain and lines ever since i got a HD tv. I never really noticed this on my regular dvd player.
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Old 11-29-2008, 12:17 AM   #11
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BDs are high definition and are usually recorded at 1080p. That's the number of lines of resolution. More lines = more detailed images. DVDs are standard definition and are recorded at 480i. The Blu-ray player or your TV will take the 480 line image and make it work on a 1080 line display. But, neither device can create content that isn't there. So, DVDs will be better. But, they won't suddenly turn into HD.

I don't get a clear picture of how you are wired together.
Ok I took some pics so you can see how I'm wired together.



the red circle are the component cables red green and blue which connect
in the back of my HD tv into the blu-ray player



the wires you see hanging down are for my tv cable. I can't have those in my tv along with the component cables for the blu-ray I have to plug them back in after because my tv does not have the HDMI cable!

this is my cable box the other YPBR cables!



this is the RF Modulator box which my dvd player won't play without it!



the yellow red and white wires go in the back of the blu-ray player audio video etc!

I just put on a HD tv on cable and it's so much clearer then the blu-ray player I just don't get it! anyone know why this is happening?

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Old 11-29-2008, 04:20 AM   #12
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If your TV only has one set of component video inputs, how about using a switch instead swapping cables and bothering with that RF modulator? I think monoprice.com has exactly what you need for $30-40. It's even remote controlled. You won't need a DVD player since the BD player can do DVDs too and probably with better upscaling. But, you can keep using if you want, of course. The switch will have two or three inputs for component video and stereo audio. The output of the switch goes to the TV.
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Old 11-29-2008, 04:42 AM   #13
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If your TV only has one set of component video inputs, how about using a switch instead swapping cables and bothering with that RF modulator? I think monoprice.com has exactly what you need for $30-40. It's even remote controlled. You won't need a DVD player since the BD player can do DVDs too and probably with better upscaling. But, you can keep using if you want, of course. The switch will have two or three inputs for component video and stereo audio. The output of the switch goes to the TV.
Here's a link that will take you to what you need if you haven't found it already. You'll probably need an extra set of cables as well.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...=2#description

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Old 11-29-2008, 06:02 AM   #14
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thanks for the help! I called sony and they said that I won't get the full quality without the DHMI cable. And my tv does not have that. I think the only option I have is to get a newer tv that has that port. He had me change the tv resolultuion to 480 which seem to be much better. But still not great!
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Old 11-29-2008, 06:16 AM   #15
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Don't forget to read the manual that came with your player. While plugging in the BD player is intuitive enough, setting it up and understanding how the system works will take time. You can find a lot of answers to your questions in the manual. They don't print those things just because they hate trees!
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Old 11-29-2008, 07:19 AM   #16
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Does you television have DVI as an input? I couldn't tell if more inputs were available for use on television or not.

If you have a DVI input you could use a HDMI to DVI cable to plug the blu-ray player into your TV. This is what my dad has to use on his older 720p television because it has one DVI slot and zero HDMI. (he actually uses HDMI to go from blu-ray player to receiver to push audio to it and then hdmi->dvi cable from receiver to television)

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I looked up your television. It should have a DVI port. You should be using this for your blu-ray player. Monoprice HDMI->DVI cables, I didn't know the length you needed so there is the list page and you can feel safe going with the less expensive ones. If you end up purchasing some sort of surround then you can implement a set up similar to my father's where he has HDMI cable from blu-ray to receiver and then HDMI->DVI cable coming out of the receiver and going to television's input.

You will need to send the audio to your television speakers through the standard audio cable still since the HDMI->DVI cable will transport only the picture.

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I personally wouldn't bother buying a component video switch from monoprice; simply because you asked about audio. Usually with an audio upgrade comes purchasing a receiver. Various receiver will allow you to have multiple types of the same input type plugged in and a single out or various inputs all upgraded to a single out. (thus performing the job of the switch that was suggested) For example, you could find a receiver that upgrades component to HDMI so that you have them going into your receiver but the receiver sends the video signal out through the HDMI out. This may eliminate some of the cable clutter that has attached itself to your television, as well.

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Does you television have DVI as an input? I couldn't tell if more inputs were available for use on television or not.

If you have a DVI input you could use a HDMI to DVI cable to plug the blu-ray player into your TV. This is what my dad has to use on his older 720p television because it has one DVI slot and zero HDMI. (he actually uses HDMI to go from blu-ray player to receiver to push audio to it and then hdmi->dvi cable from receiver to television)

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I looked up your television. It should have a DVI port. You should be using this for your blu-ray player. Monoprice HDMI->DVI cables, I didn't know the length you needed so there is the list page and you can feel safe going with the less expensive ones. If you end up purchasing some sort of surround then you can implement a set up similar to my father's where he has HDMI cable from blu-ray to receiver and then HDMI->DVI cable coming out of the receiver and going to television's input.

You will need to send the audio to your television speakers through the standard audio cable still since the HDMI->DVI cable will transport only the picture.

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I personally wouldn't bother buying a component video switch from monoprice; simply because you asked about audio. Usually with an audio upgrade comes purchasing a receiver. Various receiver will allow you to have multiple types of the same input type plugged in and a single out or various inputs all upgraded to a single out. (thus performing the job of the switch that was suggested) For example, you could find a receiver that upgrades component to HDMI so that you have them going into your receiver but the receiver sends the video signal out through the HDMI out. This may eliminate some of the cable clutter that has attached itself to your television, as well.
a dvi for the quality? mine does have a dvi but the HDMI cable would not fit that. the DVI cable is too big and very large.
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a dvi for the quality? mine does have a dvi but the HDMI cable would not fit that. the DVI cable is too big and very large.
You need a DVI to HDMI adapter or cable. Personally, I would prefer a cable over an adapter, but you can get whatever. Monoprice.com has them rather inexpensive.
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I called sony and they said that I won't get the full quality without the DHMI cable. And my tv does not have that. I think the only option I have is to get a newer tv that has that port.
DVI is the same as HDMI for video. The difference is that HDMI also carries audio while DVI does not. As others have noted, you simply need a cable that is HDMI on the end that attaches to the BD player and DVI on the end that goes into your TV. You don't need a new TV with an HDMI input.

Component also carries HD signals and may be just as good as HDMI/DVI.

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He had me change the tv resolultion to 480 which seem to be much better. But still not great!
??? 480 is standard definition, not high definition. You can't actually change a TV's resolution and I doubt a Sony suppport person would walk you through a Westinghouse TV setup. So, what do you mean when you say he had you "change the tv resolution"?
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mine does have a dvi but the HDMI cable would not fit that. the DVI cable is too big and very large.
Im looking at your TV model LTV-19w6, I see no mention of DVI connection not even in the pictures.

Are you sure your TV has DVI? (can you post a picture?)
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