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Old 11-28-2008, 09:50 PM   #1
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Ive had a few people tell me that the punisher is not a superhero what do you think
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:05 PM   #2
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Well, he blasted some punks that killed a little girl and he can handle himself against Spider-man, Daredevil and few other. He is a super hero to me!
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:06 PM   #3
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Well, he blasted some punks that killed a little girl and he can handle himself against Spider-man, Daredevil and few other. He is a super hero to me!
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:07 PM   #4
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Not sure what this has to do with Blu-Ray Movies and Releases.
Should be in the Movie & TV Discussion sub-forum instead.

However.... no. Punisher isn't considered a 'Superhero' in the traditional sense.
The character may exist in that Genre. But he doesn't fit the archetype.
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:09 PM   #5
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Not sure what this has to do with Blu-Ray Movies and Releases.
Should be in the Movie & TV Discussion sub-forum instead.

However.... no. Punisher isn't considered a 'Superhero' in the traditional sense.
The character may exist in that Genre. But he doesn't fit the archetype.
what makes him different then any other superheros
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:11 PM   #6
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what makes him different then any other superheros
he kills bad guys.
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:18 PM   #7
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he kills bad guys.
And on occassion, attempts to kill good guys.

He's gone gunning for Spider-Man, The Runaways (Children), and Sentry. Among others.

He's even murdered two villains in cold blood during Civil War, even though they were working with the Heroes at the time. Which got him a sound thrashing from a very pissed off Captain America.
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:23 PM   #8
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No.

As mentioned in other threads {namely the thread of favorite super-hero in the Movies and TV discussion area}

He's an Anti-hero.

There's nothing SUPER about someone who has an itchy trigger finger. Hell, I wouldn't call the people who open fired at a Toys R Us in the States today "Super" by any stretch of the imagination. {unless I was using a few swear words afterwards}

Heroes have morality. Punisher does not.

No Super powers, and not a hero, so no, obviously he's not a Super Hero.

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Old 11-28-2008, 10:16 PM   #9
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what makes him different then any other superheros
Numerous reasons.

Chief being his morality. Even willing to kill children if he considers them guilty.

He's more of a Vigilante or Anti-Hero. And is unrepentant for his actions.
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:21 PM   #10
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Numerous reasons.

Chief being his morality. Even willing to kill children if he considers them guilty.

He's more of a Vigilante or Anti-Hero. And is unrepentant for his actions.
Whoa! I never heard of Frank Castle killing any kids! Where do you get this from? And powers don't make the super hero,its more of what they take on. Let say if I were to meet Spider-man, i would tell him: I respect you for your powers but admire you for your responsibilities..
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Whoa! I never heard of Frank Castle killing any kids! Where do you get this from?
I said he tried. Didn't say he succeeded. He got a super-powered punch in the gut for his troubles.

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Old 11-28-2008, 10:12 PM   #12
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technically speaking, no super powers = no "super" hero.
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He's great with Weaspons and Hand to Hand Combat but no Powers as mentioned above.
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technically speaking, no super powers = no "super" hero.
so your saying that batman isnt a hero either cause he has no powers
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so your saying that batman isnt a hero either cause he has no powers
Not exactly. Batman and Iron Man still count as Superheroes.

They're simply 'Gadget Type' heroes. And operate under a 'Heroic' Code.

Punisher's code of ethics and morals however place him outside the box.
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Not exactly. Batman and Iron Man still count as Superheroes.

They're simply 'Gadget Type' heroes. And operate under a 'Heroic' Code.

Punisher's code of ethics and morals however place him outside the box.
what batman has some cool cars... that makes him a superhero?
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:26 PM   #17
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so your saying that batman isnt a hero either cause he has no powers
As previously explained {which you apparently ignored}

Batman has trained himself to be in absolute peak physical human shape, he's an expert of several martial arts and has gadgets and a code of ethics.

Batman IS a super hero because there are few people on the planet that can stand up against him in hand-to-hand combat. That's pretty damned super, what pushes him over the top is the fact that he's a criminologist expert and has gadgets that help him along the way.

He also has a code of ethics, Punisher does not.

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Old 11-28-2008, 10:30 PM   #18
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As previously explained {which you apparently ignored}

Batman has trained himself to be in absolute peak physical human shape, he's an expert of several martial arts and has gadgets and a code of ethics.

Batman IS a super hero because there are few people on the planet that can stand up against him in hand-to-hand combat. That's pretty damned super, what pushes him over the top is the fact that he's a criminologist expert and has gadgets that help him along the way.

He also has a code of ethics, Punisher does not.

Logan
if im not wrong i think that the punisher is at absolute peak physical human shape himself and from his fighting skills he might know a thing or two...
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Old 11-29-2008, 12:21 AM   #19
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so your saying that batman isnt a hero either cause he has no powers

i never said anything about not being a hero. i said he wasn't a "super" hero.
and to answer ur other concern, batman is not a superhero, again, "no 'super' power = no 'super' hero", which by the way batman doesn't have.
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No, he's just a guy with some really big guns who takes the law into his own hands.
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