If HD DVD won, what would happen to PS3 owners and sony?

[billymcmoy]

will they still sell blu ray DVD?

[powerSURG]

Originally Posted by billymcmoy

will they still sell blu ray DVD?

Kind of a difficult question. Since, at the moment, it seems impossible. For one, the studio support would have me say that yes, they would still release Bluray Discs. It would seem that Sony would have a proprietary media upon which we would fully enjoy games and movies. (nobody *****es about the media Nintendo uses, with or without movie playback)

[jorg]

its wont happen look at the links in my name the worlds biggest eletronic comapnys support blu-ray and a few rebeluous ones don`t or they support both but if it dose win nothing with realy happend beside maybe a built in hd dvd/ blu-ray drive maybe an add on. i belive and many poeple do that the ps3 will make blu-ray win and even if it dose developers will still enjoy all the space and higher bit rates . and when one format loses is when no one is exlusive to them or they stop making them

[Unkn0wn47]

Well said above. Blu-ray just has way more pros than cons; ultimately it is the best choice. HD-DVD is one step ahead of DVD while Blu-ray is up two steps. It is just the fact that some consumers are stupid when they buy HD-DVD and now they are stubborn and are not easily adaptable to change so they keep hoping that HD-DVD will come through when in fact it has already lost and the market just needs more time to realize that.

[Stormyhog]

If Blu-Ray fails which I think is highly unlikely Sony would still use it for their games. Where the 360 has a problem is that their HD-DVD drive just plays movies so when HD-DVD dies then what you have is an expensive door stop.

[jorg]

or u could take apart case and make a funny looking light probly dangerouse too lol and i don`t think micro soft will include blu-ray into curent gen. but next gen they should so that should be in about 2-3 years lol

[LxTxNx]

Originally Posted by jorg

or u could take apart case and make a funny looking light probly dangerouse too lol and i don`t think micro soft will include blu-ray into curent gen. but next gen they should so that should be in about 2-3 years lol

your "the truth dose hurt" is hillarious!

[The Don]

if BD fails...Sony will still sell BD movies like they sell PSP movies

[jubaiweaponx]

Its not going to happen so why speculate ,the only "what if" scenario i`m interested in is comics ,I agree with the above the #s and the studio support suggests it would be almost impossible ,unless you went to bizarro world where maybe hddvd might be the main format ....If the hddvd fanboys wish hard enough

[Chad Varnadore]

Inclusion in the PS3 and the consumer confidence that the Playstation name instills is virtually another guarantee of BDs survival. If BD fails, so will high definition packaged media in general. And it'll be less because of HD DVD than the market not appreciating or being ready for high def. But, there is literally no way at this point that HD DVD can actually beat BD, if there ever was. HD DVDs only hope is one of continued survival alongside BD. In fact that was Toshiba's principle if not only ambition in development to be a short term contender to BD out of fear of eventually lossing all the royalties they're raking in from DVD. Where BD was designed to be a format that could evolve with and satisfy the emerging high def market for another ten years at least.

[Iceman_II]

IMHO it simply won't happen.... Sony got burned BADLY on betamax... so they did something smart this time around. Before they went to war over their format, they bought the content... and he who controls the content controls the format.

If you honestly think you would EVER see Casino Royale on HD-DVD, step away from the hooka. After the loss of face over beta max (and remember how important that is in their culture) I think they would rather release CR exclusive to BD, DVD, and VHS than to EVER allow it to get pressed on HD-DVD.

Just my $.02

[HDTV1080P]

In the Twilight Zone HD-DVD wins.

HD-DVD Episode (written by unknown HD-DVD fanatic)
One Saturday morning a BLU-RAY owner wakes up and discovers they no longer own any BLU-RAY players or BLU-RAY discs. Some how all the BLU-RAY players and discs disappeared off the face of the earth for no logical reason. On that day in the Twilight Zone the prior BLU-RAY owner sees nothing but HD-DVD players made by Sony, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, and Panasonic at every retail store. Even a Sony PS3 machine with a HD-DVD player built in. On that day in the Twilight Zone there are many Casino Royale HD-DVD movies and every studio is supporting HD-DVD with thousands of HD-DVD titles on the shelf with no BLU-RAY to be found. In fact on that day everyone you ask about BLU-RAY thinks you’re crazy and insane. All the replies are what is BLU-RAY?
Did the HD-DVD camp invent a time machine and change history?

[burningheat3rd]

its not like ps3 is doing that great.....the inclusion of blu-ray to it doesn't really matter...neither blu-ray nor hd-dvd are doing "great" compared to dvd still...i prefer blu-ray...but its like i said...neither have taken off yet and everything you see coming out is just companies throwing more money out of their ass as promotion...more movies aren't coming out because people are buying...more movies are coming out because the companies are promoting blu-ray by saying "there's a lot of movie"

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Honestly, the worst case scenario for Blu-ray is sharing the market with HD DVD like Chad said. According to reports, 60% of PS2 owners will buy the PS3. There are over 118+ million PS2 sold to date. Since PS3 games are made on BDs, that in itself could keep Blu-ray going. Also, the PC market has always gone for more storage and Blu-ray has that superior storage capacity (up to 200GB). Blu-ray drives can obtain a much higher read/write speed than HD DVD drives, because HD DVD is based on legacy technology (CLV vs CAV drives). The PC market and PS3 games would make Blu-ray successful. I believe that could keep the BD movie making process alive for the studios. IMO, that's why it is sooo hard for Blu-ray to fail.

Also, it is possible to burn a HD DVD movie to a BD, but not necessarily the other way around. Just another reason to go Blu.

[jbuttler007]

I would be really mad since I've already bought over 35 BD's. But hell has not frozen over and no pigs are flying.

[nhaase]

Originally Posted by burningheat3rd

its not like ps3 is doing that great.....the inclusion of blu-ray to it doesn't really matter...neither blu-ray nor hd-dvd are doing "great" compared to dvd still...i prefer blu-ray...but its like i said...neither have taken off yet and everything you see coming out is just companies throwing more money out of their ass as promotion...more movies aren't coming out because people are buying...more movies are coming out because the companies are promoting blu-ray by saying "there's a lot of movie"

The PS3 is doing better than the 360 if you compare the PS3's numbers with the 360's in its first April, and it just debuted on March 23rd in Europe. The inlcusion of Blu-ray means that each PS3 sold is potentially a Blu-ray player, so it doesn't matter if people don't use it as such. If they do, however, there are over 1 million people out there with blu-ray players (many on these forums use their PS3 as their BD player)

Actually, if you comapre the formats from their inception (1997 for DVD), Blu-ray is catching on faster than DVD did after its debut. The first BD title shipped 100k units faster than the first DVD (Casino Royale and Air Force One, respectively), however much emphasis you want to put on that number. So while neither have "taken off," so to speak, they are catching on. Part of the movies being released is for companies to promote volume of the new format, but there is also some demand for it.

I'm not saying you're 100% wrong or anything, but I don't fully agree w/ you.

[baccusboy]

I'd be unhappy, but by that time, HDDVD Players would be dirt cheap anyway, and I could always play my BR disks with my player....

SO WHO CARES?

[The Don]

Originally Posted by burningheat3rd

its not like ps3 is doing that great.....the inclusion of blu-ray to it doesn't really matter...neither blu-ray nor hd-dvd are doing "great" compared to dvd still...i prefer blu-ray...but its like i said...neither have taken off yet and everything you see coming out is just companies throwing more money out of their ass as promotion...more movies aren't coming out because people are buying...more movies are coming out because the companies are promoting blu-ray by saying "there's a lot of movie"

the fact that BD is selling faster than DVD at this point isn't "great"?...

you can't expect either format to take off within a year....even 2 years....

but one can die in 2 years....and I assure you that won't be BD...

[joeorc]

BLU-RAY

The first Blu-ray Disc recorder was demonstrated by Sony on March 3, 2003, and was introduced to the Japanese market in April that year. On September 1, 2003, JVC announced Blu-ray Disc-based products at IFA in Berlin, Germany.

DVD


On November 19, 2003, the DVD Forum decided by a vote of eight to six that HD DVD will be its official HDTV successor to DVD. This had no effect on the competing Blu-ray Disc Association's (BDA) determination that its format would succeed DVD, especially since most of the voters belonged to both groups.

THE REAL PROBLEM: "THERE SHOULD NOT EVEN BEEN A "FORMAT WAR"
DVD Forum committee approved HD-DVD specs

26 November 2003 18:54 by dRD
In the format fight that hardly anyone understands anymore, DVD Forum's steering committee has decided to adopt a proposal from Toshiba and NEC as its draft for so-called HD-DVD format.

A month ago it seemed that DVD Forum had abandoned the idea of larger storage space on DVDs, but the latest decision (although as far as we know, not an ultimate decision yet) to adopt NEC-Toshiba disc, which is often also dubbed as AOD, as the HD-DVD base, overturns this decision again. HD-DVD would be able to store 15-20GB of data per disc side and according to various reports, should be backwards compatible with current DVD format. The backwards compatibility is something that AOD/HD-DVD's main competitor, Blu-Ray, lacks.

Specifications for the HD-DVD are very vague and the rival camp of Blu-Ray supporters is likely to go ahead with their own format -- which is already available in the Japanese markets -- and pressure from China isn't exactly helping things. Lets just hope that industry manages to figure out the direction before widespread adoption of new technologies, so that we can avoid a new "Beta vs VHS war".


Source: TechWeb

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/4733.cfm

BLU-RAY was first..

blu-ray -first consumer sale player/recorder to the market: Apr 2003
HD-DVD- first consumer sale player to the market: Apr 2006

notice not even a recorder for HD-DVD just a player..while Blu-Ray has had recorders for consumers since 2003....

i ASK what's wrong with this picture......

HD-DVD....

[jorg]

very good post i must say Joeorc

but i gusse hd dvd has put prussion on studios to make better blu-ray versions of movies