Vote YES for power protection! - Blu-ray Forum

solarrdadd · 12-01-2008, 12:59 AM

Howdy, I am a licensed Master Electrician and I will tell you that sags & surges are real and they are a real threat to your electronic equipment. I paid good money, like the rest of you I'm sure for my Home Theatre gear. I know that it needs to be protected. I have three forms of protection for my equipment, 1) I installed a dedicated 20amp 120volt circuit for my stuff with #12awg from the breaker panel. 2) I have an APC 1500VA UPS with AVR plugged into that. 3) I have an APC Surge Suppression plug strip plugged into the UPS and all of my equipment goes into the strip. Now the strip might be viewed as overkill but no, there are not enough receptacles in my UPS so i use the strip for power distribution. i also have my cable and Dish network boxes coax going through it as well as my ethernet that goes to a hub for my network enabled components. I can't tell you how many times people have had either a lightning strike, surge or sage that have lasted more than 3 seconds destroy their equipment. You spend so much money on these things and get CHEAP little plug strips. most of the time this is due to ignorance in the belief that this is enough, well, IT'S NOT! All of my equipment is well protected with all three forms mentioned. I had a good friend who lost a plasma and a blu-ray player both connected with a $15 plug strip called a Surge Protector. Spending a couple of Hundred dollars on REAL protection will not only protect your equipment from electrical faults from both nature and the power utility it will also extend the life of your equipment by giving it good clean power. Trust me on this, I'm a professional and this is almost 30 years talking to you!

ixlegitballinxl · 12-01-2008, 09:33 PM

good thread! A lot of people overlook power protection on their expensive toys. I got a lot of flack from friends/gf when i mentioned picking up a power conditioner.... good to hear from a credible source to justify the purchase, and to encourage others to invest also.

quirkmanly · 12-01-2008, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

Howdy, I am a licensed Master Electrician and I will tell you that sags & surges are real and they are a real threat to your electronic equipment. I paid good money, like the rest of you I'm sure for my Home Theatre gear. I know that it needs to be protected. I have three forms of protection for my equipment, 1) I installed a dedicated 20amp 120volt circuit for my stuff with #12awg from the breaker panel. 2) I have an APC 1500VA UPS with AVR plugged into that. 3) I have an APC Surge Suppression plug strip plugged into the UPS and all of my equipment goes into the strip. Now the strip might be viewed as overkill but no, there are not enough receptacles in my UPS so i use the strip for power distribution. i also have my cable and Dish network boxes coax going through it as well as my ethernet that goes to a hub for my network enabled components. I can't tell you how many times people have had either a lightning strike, surge or sage that have lasted more than 3 seconds destroy their equipment. You spend so much money on these things and get CHEAP little plug strips. most of the time this is due to ignorance in the belief that this is enough, well, IT'S NOT! All of my equipment is well protected with all three forms mentioned. I had a good friend who lost a plasma and a blu-ray player both connected with a $15 plug strip called a Surge Protector. Spending a couple of Hundred dollars on REAL protection will not only protect your equipment from electrical faults from both nature and the power utility it will also extend the life of your equipment by giving it good clean power. Trust me on this, I'm a professional and this is almost 30 years talking to you!

Shill.

Just kidding!!

Very sensible advice indeed.

Johnny Vinyl · 12-01-2008, 10:13 PM

Wonderful thread! I'm also a firm beleiver in protecting your equipment by buying the things you mentioned. My investment in HT is just over $6,000 and I want to protect it. I think that people are really confused about the benefits of this and from reading some of the other threads, I have surmized that unless it provides them with better PQ/AQ as well, they view the investment as not really being worth it. How wrong they are. So thank you for posting this and I hope that people will take your advise.

Now that I have your attention though, I'd like to ask a question. One of my fave Audio magazines (UHF Magazine) has a HUBBELL Hospital Grade Duplex wall-outlet that they claim really helps. It's only $21.95 CDN and I was wondering if I should install one? Waste of money?

Penitus · 12-02-2008, 12:37 AM

It just makes sense that if you spend:

$500-$2000 dollars for an HDTV,
$200-$500 for a Blu-Ray Player,
$200-$800 on a receiver,
$1000 on speakers,
$15-$30 x however many Blu-Ray Discs you own,

that you would put forth at least $50 bucks for a nice surge protecting power strip.

BLURAYSONYES · 12-02-2008, 07:23 AM

I go through this with the customers Ive seen using CVS, WalMart, Target power strips. Ive explained numerous times the possibly threats mother nature can do to our home theaters. All I get is..."eh!...its ok...maybe later". I know exactly what you mean man..!

aramis109 · 12-02-2008, 02:30 PM

My HT15 is being shipped as we speak thanks to threads like this and others. Thanks for the post, Mr. Electrician!

RIPSeanTaylor21 · 12-02-2008, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

Howdy, I am a licensed Master Electrician and I will tell you that sags & surges are real and they are a real threat to your electronic equipment. I paid good money, like the rest of you I'm sure for my Home Theatre gear. I know that it needs to be protected. I have three forms of protection for my equipment, 1) I installed a dedicated 20amp 120volt circuit for my stuff with #12awg from the breaker panel. 2) I have an APC 1500VA UPS with AVR plugged into that. 3) I have an APC Surge Suppression plug strip plugged into the UPS and all of my equipment goes into the strip. Now the strip might be viewed as overkill but no, there are not enough receptacles in my UPS so i use the strip for power distribution. i also have my cable and Dish network boxes coax going through it as well as my ethernet that goes to a hub for my network enabled components. I can't tell you how many times people have had either a lightning strike, surge or sage that have lasted more than 3 seconds destroy their equipment. You spend so much money on these things and get CHEAP little plug strips. most of the time this is due to ignorance in the belief that this is enough, well, IT'S NOT! All of my equipment is well protected with all three forms mentioned. I had a good friend who lost a plasma and a blu-ray player both connected with a $15 plug strip called a Surge Protector. Spending a couple of Hundred dollars on REAL protection will not only protect your equipment from electrical faults from both nature and the power utility it will also extend the life of your equipment by giving it good clean power. Trust me on this, I'm a professional and this is almost 30 years talking to you!

so would you not consider panamax 5300 power conditioner real protection? if not? can you recommend some goods ones, because i've been reading more and more thread and starting to get worried!

RIPSeanTaylor21 · 12-02-2008, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

Howdy, I am a licensed Master Electrician and I will tell you that sags & surges are real and they are a real threat to your electronic equipment. I paid good money, like the rest of you I'm sure for my Home Theatre gear. I know that it needs to be protected. I have three forms of protection for my equipment, 1) I installed a dedicated 20amp 120volt circuit for my stuff with #12awg from the breaker panel. 2) I have an APC 1500VA UPS with AVR plugged into that. 3) I have an APC Surge Suppression plug strip plugged into the UPS and all of my equipment goes into the strip. Now the strip might be viewed as overkill but no, there are not enough receptacles in my UPS so i use the strip for power distribution. i also have my cable and Dish network boxes coax going through it as well as my ethernet that goes to a hub for my network enabled components. I can't tell you how many times people have had either a lightning strike, surge or sage that have lasted more than 3 seconds destroy their equipment. You spend so much money on these things and get CHEAP little plug strips. most of the time this is due to ignorance in the belief that this is enough, well, IT'S NOT! All of my equipment is well protected with all three forms mentioned. I had a good friend who lost a plasma and a blu-ray player both connected with a $15 plug strip called a Surge Protector. Spending a couple of Hundred dollars on REAL protection will not only protect your equipment from electrical faults from both nature and the power utility it will also extend the life of your equipment by giving it good clean power. Trust me on this, I'm a professional and this is almost 30 years talking to you!

so would you not consider panamax 5300 power conditioner real protection? if not? can you recommend some goods ones, because i've been reading more and more thread and starting to get worried! PLEASE HELP ME

RIPSeanTaylor21 · 12-02-2008, 02:56 PM

CAN SOMEONE RECOMMEND A BRAND AND MODEL if the PANAMAX 5300 is not GOOD ENOUGHT???? SOMEONE HELP ME!

redlikefire02 · 12-02-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RIPSeanTaylor21

CAN SOMEONE RECOMMEND A BRAND AND MODEL if the PANAMAX 5300 is not GOOD ENOUGHT???? SOMEONE HELP ME!

5300 is plenty good, overkill almost. hes talking about BS power strips you get at like walmart for 9.99 in the sale bins kinda thing.

sssick · 12-02-2008, 03:19 PM

If you have any common sense, you wouldn't plug a $5,000 projector into a CVS power strip.

Although, I could see people cheaping out because it's not something that you see results in. (Better speakers or a better reciever)

saprano · 12-02-2008, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIPSeanTaylor21

CAN SOMEONE RECOMMEND A BRAND AND MODEL if the PANAMAX 5300 is not GOOD ENOUGHT???? SOMEONE HELP ME!

Easy there big guy, he never said panamax is not good in fact that brand is flawless! i wanted to get the 5400 but it cost $700 so im going to get the APC H15 for $130 i think it does the same proctection, and has the same level of clean power as the 5400.

Automission · 12-02-2008, 10:51 PM

Before we all rush out to buy surge protectors, can I ask how many of you have actually had your stuff ruined by a power surge? I imagine the numbers are really quite small.

Driver_King · 12-02-2008, 10:53 PM

You live in England; I live in Florida. More specifically, Tampa Bay- The Lightning Capital of the World. I also live in the US, where the power is not as clean as other countries...

Driver_King · 12-02-2008, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Automission

Before we all rush out to buy surge protectors, can I ask how many of you have actually had your stuff ruined by a power surge? I imagine the numbers are really quite small.

My family, friends, neighbors all have stories about how brown-outs, power spikes, surges, and more have completely destroyed their equipment also...

saprano · 12-02-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Automission

Before we all rush out to buy surge protectors, can I ask how many of you have actually had your stuff ruined by a power surge? I imagine the numbers are really quite small.

I've had all my HT stuff cut off out of no where a couple months ago.
everything is sill fine though.

quexos · 12-02-2008, 11:14 PM

I used to have a surge protector that was rather expensive. In the end the switch came off and I never suffered a power surge. So I'm not getting one again.

Beta Man · 12-02-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Automission

Before we all rush out to buy surge protectors, can I ask how many of you have actually had your stuff ruined by a power surge? I imagine the numbers are really quite small.

I never have, but a sudden drop in power is bad for projector bulbs, so I'm getting a battery backup just to be safe.

aramis109 · 12-02-2008, 11:28 PM

I've had some recent brown-outs that really made me cringe. That can't be good for any electrical equipment. I've had pc's both that I worked on and that I own have failures in the mobo or RAM or even PSU that have occurred after power spikes. I've had monitors (all older CRT's, but still) do the same.

I've always had surge protection but at this point I'm wanting to make sure my stuff is protected and also gets clean power.

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12-01-2008, 12:59 AM	#1
solarrdadd Blu-ray Prince Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Virginia Home Theater Gallery:255 4K collection:209 Blu-ray collection:1344 DVD collection:4 Blu-ray reviews: 42 Trading Score:316	Vote YES for power protection! Howdy, I am a licensed Master Electrician and I will tell you that sags & surges are real and they are a real threat to your electronic equipment. I paid good money, like the rest of you I'm sure for my Home Theatre gear. I know that it needs to be protected. I have three forms of protection for my equipment, 1) I installed a dedicated 20amp 120volt circuit for my stuff with #12awg from the breaker panel. 2) I have an APC 1500VA UPS with AVR plugged into that. 3) I have an APC Surge Suppression plug strip plugged into the UPS and all of my equipment goes into the strip. Now the strip might be viewed as overkill but no, there are not enough receptacles in my UPS so i use the strip for power distribution. i also have my cable and Dish network boxes coax going through it as well as my ethernet that goes to a hub for my network enabled components. I can't tell you how many times people have had either a lightning strike, surge or sage that have lasted more than 3 seconds destroy their equipment. You spend so much money on these things and get CHEAP little plug strips. most of the time this is due to ignorance in the belief that this is enough, well, IT'S NOT! All of my equipment is well protected with all three forms mentioned. I had a good friend who lost a plasma and a blu-ray player both connected with a $15 plug strip called a Surge Protector. Spending a couple of Hundred dollars on REAL protection will not only protect your equipment from electrical faults from both nature and the power utility it will also extend the life of your equipment by giving it good clean power. Trust me on this, I'm a professional and this is almost 30 years talking to you!

12-01-2008, 09:33 PM	#2
ixlegitballinxl Banned Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Magic Kingdom, FL Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:631 Trading Score:22	good thread! A lot of people overlook power protection on their expensive toys. I got a lot of flack from friends/gf when i mentioned picking up a power conditioner.... good to hear from a credible source to justify the purchase, and to encourage others to invest also.

12-01-2008, 10:13 PM	#4
Johnny Vinyl Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:At the crossroad of Analogue Dr & 2CH Ave Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:205 DVD collection:7 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:8	Wonderful thread! I'm also a firm beleiver in protecting your equipment by buying the things you mentioned. My investment in HT is just over $6,000 and I want to protect it. I think that people are really confused about the benefits of this and from reading some of the other threads, I have surmized that unless it provides them with better PQ/AQ as well, they view the investment as not really being worth it. How wrong they are. So thank you for posting this and I hope that people will take your advise. Now that I have your attention though, I'd like to ask a question. One of my fave Audio magazines (UHF Magazine) has a HUBBELL Hospital Grade Duplex wall-outlet that they claim really helps. It's only $21.95 CDN and I was wondering if I should install one? Waste of money?

12-02-2008, 12:37 AM	#5
Penitus Expert Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Ohio Blu-ray collection:126 Blu-ray reviews:10	It just makes sense that if you spend: $500-$2000 dollars for an HDTV, $200-$500 for a Blu-Ray Player, $200-$800 on a receiver, $1000 on speakers, $15-$30 x however many Blu-Ray Discs you own, that you would put forth at least $50 bucks for a nice surge protecting power strip.

12-02-2008, 07:23 AM	#6
BLURAYSONYES Banned Member since:May 2007 Location:Irvine, CA Blu-ray collection:157	I go through this with the customers Ive seen using CVS, WalMart, Target power strips. Ive explained numerous times the possibly threats mother nature can do to our home theaters. All I get is..."eh!...its ok...maybe later". I know exactly what you mean man..!

12-02-2008, 02:30 PM	#7
aramis109 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:360 Trading Score:18	My HT15 is being shipped as we speak thanks to threads like this and others. Thanks for the post, Mr. Electrician!

12-02-2008, 02:56 PM	#10
RIPSeanTaylor21 Special Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:FedEX Field, Ring Of Fame 11/30/2008 Home Theater Gallery:35 Blu-ray collection:216 Blu-ray reviews:27	CAN SOMEONE RECOMMEND A BRAND AND MODEL if the PANAMAX 5300 is not GOOD ENOUGHT???? SOMEONE HELP ME!

12-02-2008, 03:19 PM	#12
sssick Expert Member Member since:Jan 2008	If you have any common sense, you wouldn't plug a $5,000 projector into a CVS power strip. Although, I could see people cheaping out because it's not something that you see results in. (Better speakers or a better reciever)

12-02-2008, 10:51 PM	#14
Automission Active Member Member since:Jul 2008 Location:England	Before we all rush out to buy surge protectors, can I ask how many of you have actually had your stuff ruined by a power surge? I imagine the numbers are really quite small.

12-02-2008, 10:53 PM	#15
Driver_King Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Tampa Bay, Florida Home Theater Gallery:96 Blu-ray collection:28 Trading Score:10	You live in England; I live in Florida. More specifically, Tampa Bay- The Lightning Capital of the World. I also live in the US, where the power is not as clean as other countries...

12-02-2008, 11:14 PM	#18
quexos Banned Member since:May 2007 Location:Brussels, Belgium	I used to have a surge protector that was rather expensive. In the end the switch came off and I never suffered a power surge. So I'm not getting one again.

12-02-2008, 11:28 PM	#20
aramis109 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:360 Trading Score:18	I've had some recent brown-outs that really made me cringe. That can't be good for any electrical equipment. I've had pc's both that I worked on and that I own have failures in the mobo or RAM or even PSU that have occurred after power spikes. I've had monitors (all older CRT's, but still) do the same. I've always had surge protection but at this point I'm wanting to make sure my stuff is protected and also gets clean power.

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