Another one of those

[BaronVonFlapJack]

I don't know if this has been covered here or not, but I got the LG Super Multi Blu Ray player recently and here are my thoughts:

Lets review what it CANNOT do

1. Other than play an HD DVD, you cannot access anything else, including the menu and features. I knew that going in, but I already had an HD DVD player so that didn't really matter to me.

2. 1080P - According to their website, it supports 1080P on combatible TV's. Now to the average person, you would think they meant that your TV had to support 1080P in order to get it. WRONG. From my research online from other owners who called LG, it only supports it on LG TV's. I have a 62" Toshiba and I can only get 1080i. Thanks *******s.

3. Not all Blu Ray Movies will work on this! Yes you heard me correct. LG Tech Support confirmed this with me last night when I called the support line because 2 different copies of Big Fish would not play. They said that movie isnt on the list. I asked which list. They said the list of movies that are uncompatible. They said its because how the movie was formatted. I said its a BluRay movie, and this is a $1200 BluRay player, how can you tell me all movies wont work? They also said Casino Royale was on that list, but I have that one and it works fine.

Someone needs to start a class action lawsuit against these bastards. As it is, mine is hitting ebay today and I will get a PS3.

The Baron

[nhaase]

That's the best move. Just wondering, if you had already have an HD-DVD player, why did you get the multi-player and not just the PS3 to begin w/?

[BaronVonFlapJack]

I actually got it for under $200 doing one of those Free websites where you complete some offers. I initially was gonna sell it and get a PS3, but I didnt want 5 different components for different things, one for HD DVD, one for BLU RAY, etc. I decided to keep it. I was pretty happy with my xbox for games too so didnt really need a PS3 but Ill get it now so I can watch some damn blu ray movies.

[elwaylite]

I've also read some online consumer reviews, seems its a little buggy also.

[clarkbar]

It does 1080P on TV's that accept a 1080p/24 fps signal. Since most 1080P TV's do 1080P/60 fps this is where it comes into play.

[BTBuck1]

Maybe LG needed to spend a little less time making it "Multi" and more time making it just a solid Blu-ray player.

Tell ya what, I couldn't be happier with my bdp-1000 and my ps3!

[HDTV1080P]

I once purchased 3 top of the line LG DVD players from a retail store and I had to return all 3 of them since they were defective and had a poor picture quality using HDMI. Ended up getting a cheap off brand $79 HDMI DVD player at Wal-Mart that work correctly.

[LxTxNx]

This Player would just confuse me... should I get "The Departed" on BD or HD-DVD? Which collection will I invest in? Why can't access menus on my HD-DVDs? Why Isn't this BD playing on this player? just a mess!!

I'll stick to my PS3 until further notice....

[FilmmakingFiasco]

Originally Posted by LxTxNx

This Player would just confuse me... should I get "The Departed" on BD or HD-DVD? Which collection will I invest in? Why can't access menus on my HD-DVDs? Why Isn't this BD playing on this player? just a mess!!

I'll stick to my PS3 until further notice....

I actually have this problem having the PS3 Xbox 360 Combo. Other than The Sopranos, I have all my cross platform titles on Blu-ray. The Blu-ray release of The Sopranos only has 5.1 in uncompressed. The main reason I stick with Blu is because I really love the info screen on the PS3 player and the remote has more specific action buttons than the Xbox remote.

[PeterTHX]

Well color me unsurprised since LG: LUCKY GOLDSTAR *sucks*.

Like greenish orange fleshtones? Buy an LG flat panel display. Like buggy & defective players? Buy LG DVD.

[BaronVonFlapJack]

Originally Posted by LxTxNx

This Player would just confuse me... should I get "The Departed" on BD or HD-DVD? Which collection will I invest in? Why can't access menus on my HD-DVDs? Why Isn't this BD playing on this player? just a mess!!

I'll stick to my PS3 until further notice....

Im on the other side of the fence than Filmmaking Fiasco. If it is out on both fomrats, at this time, I go with HD DVD. I just got into Blu Ray last month and I have been hugely dissapointed with the quality of lots of movies. My first order arrived from Amazon, House of Flying Daggers, Casino Royale, Prestige, Pearl Harbor and XMen3. Other than Casino and Prestige, which did look great, I was HUGELY disspointed in the quality of the other titles, namely X3 and Pearl Harbor, which I expected to look fantastic. Again, after reading reviews, I found out about the different codecs each one was formatted with, and thats why they look crappy. Quite honestly, my dvd of the same title upconverted looked better, there was so much digital noise on the Blu Ray disc. When you are touting yourself as Beyond High Def then you damn well better be Beyond High Def with your releases, not Beyond DVD. I have yet to be disspointed with a HD DVD release, at least the ones I have purchased, and I own over 30 titles in that format.

[MatrixS2000]

What didn't you like about X3? That one looked great to me and at one point in the movie the bit rate jumps up to about 42Mb/s - you aren't going to get that type of resolution on HD-DVD....

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by BaronVonFlapJack

Im on the other side of the fence than Filmmaking Fiasco. If it is out on both fomrats, at this time, I go with HD DVD. I just got into Blu Ray last month and I have been hugely dissapointed with the quality of lots of movies. My first order arrived from Amazon, House of Flying Daggers, Casino Royale, Prestige, Pearl Harbor and XMen3. Other than Casino and Prestige, which did look great, I was HUGELY disspointed in the quality of the other titles, namely X3 and Pearl Harbor, which I expected to look fantastic. Again, after reading reviews, I found out about the different codecs each one was formatted with, and thats why they look crappy. Quite honestly, my dvd of the same title upconverted looked better, there was so much digital noise on the Blu Ray disc. When you are touting yourself as Beyond High Def then you damn well better be Beyond High Def with your releases, not Beyond DVD. I have yet to be disspointed with a HD DVD release, at least the ones I have purchased, and I own over 30 titles in that format.

Yes quality on some first generation BLU-RAY releases is poor. Some of the MPEG-2 25GB discs look bad for the longer movies. There are many BLU-RAY discs that have a outstanding picture quality when MPEG-2, VC-1, and MPEG-4/AVC is used on 50GB discs.
If you read the reviews between the Warner HD-DVD and BLU-RAY releases the quality of the picture is exactly the same since the exact same bit rate is used. Sony Pictures announced fairly recently that 80% of future released BLU-RAY titles are going to be on a 50GB disc. The 25GB discs will be used for short movies under 90 minutes most likely.
When studios start using MPEG-4/AVC or VC-1 at high bit rates on 50GB Blu-ray discs the picture quality will be better then HD-DVD. HD-DVD has 20GB less space to work with. Future MPEG-4/AVC Blu-ray discs by Sony Pictures later on are going to have the expanded color gamut with 1.8 times more colors when watched on a compatible display and player.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by BaronVonFlapJack

Im on the other side of the fence than Filmmaking Fiasco. If it is out on both fomrats, at this time, I go with HD DVD. I just got into Blu Ray last month and I have been hugely dissapointed with the quality of lots of movies. My first order arrived from Amazon, House of Flying Daggers, Casino Royale, Prestige, Pearl Harbor and XMen3. Other than Casino and Prestige, which did look great, I was HUGELY disspointed in the quality of the other titles, namely X3 and Pearl Harbor, which I expected to look fantastic. Again, after reading reviews, I found out about the different codecs each one was formatted with, and thats why they look crappy. Quite honestly, my dvd of the same title upconverted looked better, there was so much digital noise on the Blu Ray disc. When you are touting yourself as Beyond High Def then you damn well better be Beyond High Def with your releases, not Beyond DVD. I have yet to be disspointed with a HD DVD release, at least the ones I have purchased, and I own over 30 titles in that format.

Baron, you're totally wrong. X-Men III looks fantastic. It looks better sharper and clearer than the Scope 35mm prints. (I saw it twice in 2 different theaters). It's not the codec, that's total misinformation from your part. What you call "so much digital noise on the Blu-ray Disc" is called grain, it's part of the image. It's what makes up the image. The X-Men III disc is so incredibly sharp you can see every image-creating grain from this Super-35 shot film with pinpoint sharpness. It's one of my favorite discs. If seeing the image presented with a sharpness that surpasses the 35mm print presentation is not to your liking, turn the sharpness down to emulate the theatrical experience, or better yet, if you have a projector, misfocus the knob a little. Honest.
Or, just downsample the image to 480, like watching the DVD, which decimates all the grain and detail in the proccess, like the average multiplex.


Not Beyond DVD. . Beyond 35mm. Beyond High Definition.




I've said it before and I'll say it again. Sadly, these days, apparently some people don't know how 35mm film truly looks like (maybe from long exposure to bad theaters and years of home video) and expect everything to look like a CGI movie..

[PeterTHX]

I've noticed most people who complain about X3 probably have the sharpness control WAYYY to high. After I calibrated my TV properly X3 looked spectacular.

[MatrixS2000]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

The X-Men III disc is so incredibly sharp

Agreed - 100%! What I noticed the most is the scene where wolverine in standing in front of a bunch of ivy - all the leaves were moving and the BD and player handled it no problem - the bit rate jumped to over 40Mb/s. <- HD DVD would have a problem with and I would expect a bunch of artifacting on that format....

[BaronVonFlapJack]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Baron, you're totally wrong. X-Men III looks fantastic. It looks better sharper and clearer than the Scope 35mm prints. (I saw it twice in 2 different theaters). It's not the codec, that's total misinformation from your part. What you call "so much digital noise on the Blu-ray Disc" is called grain, it's part of the image. It's what makes up the image. The X-Men III disc is so incredibly sharp you can see every image-creating grain from this Super-35 shot film with pinpoint sharpness. It's one of my favorite discs. If seeing the image presented with a sharpness that surpasses the 35mm print presentation is not to your liking, turn the sharpness down to emulate the theatrical experience, or better yet, if you have a projector, misfocus the knob a little. Honest.
Or, just downsample the image to 480, like watching the DVD, which decimates all the grain and detail in the proccess, like the average multiplex.


Not Beyond DVD. . Beyond 35mm. Beyond High Definition.




I've said it before and I'll say it again. Sadly, these days, apparently some people don't know how 35mm film truly looks like (maybe from long exposure to bad theaters and years of home video) and expect everything to look like a CGI movie..

I'm sorry, I do happen to know about film grain, and what a film is supposed to look like. I know very well. I also know what a great HD DVD looks like, and a great Blu Ray disc, and let me tell you, on my system, X3 and Pearl Harbor looked like shit, with digital noise, not grain, I know the difference. My settings are fine. Other movies look fantastic, and I sure as hell am not going to change my settings per movie, that would be extremely annoying to have to do.

The Baron

P.S. Begin Sarcasm: "I also know what those annoying "black bars" are at the top and bottom of my screen and I am aware that the picture is not getting chopped off" End Sarcasm.

[MatrixS2000]

So do all HD DVDs look great on your system?

[PeterTHX]

on my system, X3 and Pearl Harbor looked like shit, with digital noise, not grain, I know the difference

AGAIN: your sharpness/contrast is WAY TOO HIGH. Period. Or else you have a crappy system.

[jermwhl]

You said you had a LG Multi player, dontcha think that's a huge part of the problem there. LG is crap!
Once you get your PS3, try out X3 on that, and see if your noise is gone then. I have a sneaky suspicion you'll see better quality.