Why are Apple being so stubborn of not embracing BD?

[hendra]

Why are Apple being so stubborn of not offering their laptops with Blu-ray drives? Do they really think that we would prefer to rent their HD movies for $4.99 at 720p while we can rent Blu-ray unlimited for $18.00 a month at full 1080p? If we just rent 4 Blu-ray discs a month, that would beat Apple's price hands down at higher quality. On top of that, I have to buy their Apple TV and an HDTV while with Netfllix, I can just use my laptop. Not to mention the time it takes to download 25GB of HD quality movies.

[Roggster]

for the same reason apple lovers are so stubborn and will only buy apple products :>

joking, not flame baiting....

[Blaumann]

Yes, you're supposed to embrace iTunes in HD. According to Apple, Blu-ray is just a bag of hurt. That tells me all i need to know about .... Apple.

[Mr. HiDef]

eventually is going to happen but my guess is prob not till 2010-2011 from what I heard they are on the board for blu-ray so I dont see why they wouldnt want to use the technology but stated in the above poster article the licensing is just to expensive right now

[hendra]

Originally Posted by Mr. HiDef

eventually is going to happen but my guess is prob not till 2010-2011 from what I heard they are on the board for blu-ray so I dont see why they wouldnt want to use the technology but stated in the above poster article the licensing is just to expensive right now

Why do they even need Licensing? All they need to do is putting Matshita BD drive in their laptops and ask 3rd party company like Cyberlink or Intervideo (now a subsidiary of Corel) to make the software for Apple OS. Seems to me like an excuse to push their very expensive HD download for less quality.

[dadkins]

Why indeed.
Licensing... I have to call BS on this excuse!
Acer/Fujitsu/HP/ASUS... etc, all seem to be ok with "licensing" and can seem to afford it.

There is no excuse that is valid. There is no reason that is logical.

Apple is really dropping the ball on BD.

Screw it! Just go get a new iPod or iPhone and think happy thoughts.
You can get movies from iTunes and that's good enough.

Bag of hurt - yeah.


*NOTE*: I get to hear about it everytime I see (or get a call from) my Mac fanatic neighbor.

"What are you doing?"
"I was watching ________ Blu-ray, what's up?"

#@&*!+##^&!!!!

"Sorry guy, go get a VAIO!"
"You can come by here and watch a BD on one of my VAIOs if ya want..."

[hijeff1]

I use boot camp and installed windows because I had to for some programs.

Anyway I bought a liteon external Blu Ray drive and it works perfect, but only when I'm running windows. Doesn't work with Leopard

[MattVollet]

Originally Posted by hijeff1

I use boot camp and installed windows because I had to for some programs.

Anyway I bought a liteon external Blu Ray drive and it works perfect, but only when I'm running windows. Doesn't work with Leopard

I mean, I love Apple so this may be biased, but you have to understand by putting Blu Ray drives in the Mac it could, at the most, deter someone from using itunes to rent in HD. Obviously Apple would rather have someone rent or buy from their store than a blu-ray that they see no profits for.
I don't think it is Apple being stubborn as much as just business. Apple has a competing product just like MS does, that's all.

[Mr. HiDef]

Originally Posted by MattVollet

I mean, I love Apple so this may be biased, but you have to understand by putting Blu Ray drives in the Mac it could, at the most, deter someone from using itunes to rent in HD. Obviously Apple would rather have someone rent or buy from their store than a blu-ray that they see no profits for.
I don't think it is Apple being stubborn as much as just business. Apple has a competing product just like MS does, that's all.

Yeah well im a huge apple fan as well and could careless about having a bd drive in my computer but they are going to lose money because alot of people do and are going to go out and get a comp that does have it

[MattVollet]

Originally Posted by Mr. HiDef

Yeah well im a huge apple fan as well and could careless about having a bd drive in my computer but they are going to lose money because alot of people do and are going to go out and get a comp that does have it

Oh yeah! Totally. Don't get me wrong I didn't mean to imply it was a GOOD idea, I just was saying I UNDERSTAND why it isn't implemented yet.

[mr.hidef]

Originally Posted by Mr. HiDef

eventually is going to happen but my guess is prob not till 2010-2011 from what I heard they are on the board for blu-ray so I dont see why they wouldnt want to use the technology but stated in the above poster article the licensing is just to expensive right now

Yeah.......they must be hurting from the failure of those I-pod things.........(sarcasm)

[hijeff1]

Originally Posted by MattVollet

I mean, I love Apple so this may be biased, but you have to understand by putting Blu Ray drives in the Mac it could, at the most, deter someone from using itunes to rent in HD. Obviously Apple would rather have someone rent or buy from their store than a blu-ray that they see no profits for.
I don't think it is Apple being stubborn as much as just business. Apple has a competing product just like MS does, that's all.

I don't down load movies from Itunes or even rent them. To me that is stupid. First you don't get 1080 and second, hard drives fail. What happens if you loose your hard drive, you lost all those movies right? And Thirdly, what happens when the internet providers get what they want and start charging for useage instead of a flat rate. Downloading video will stop. With buying blu ray I don't have to worry about any of that.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I have a Imac. Bought it in March of this year, and I was considering getting rid of it and getting a new HP that is also a all in one computer like the Imac. (the monitor is the whole computer). It costs about the same as the Imac but it has a blu ray drive in it.

The only reason I didn't do that is because I found this external blu ray drive and decided to see if it would work when I booted up using Windows Vista.

To me it is a big deal and I really do want blu ray in my comp, and it sucks that I have to use another operating system to use blu ray. I hope apple corrects this mistake that they are making.

[Chevypower]

I don't think Apple users ONLY buy Apple products. Most Apple users have owned both, but not necessarily vice-versa. I want Blu-ray burning. I don't really care about movie playback on the computer. We are going to put a BD burner in our Mac Pro and use Adobe Encore until DVD Studio Pro can support it. I can also do a Quicktime HD master in Final Cut Pro, and import it on to one of our PCs with Sony DVD Architect 5 if I want, and I do that. It's not like I am stuck and out of options because I use Macs.

[FendersRule]

Originally Posted by MattVollet

I mean, I love Apple so this may be biased, but you have to understand by putting Blu Ray drives in the Mac it could, at the most, deter someone from using itunes to rent in HD. Obviously Apple would rather have someone rent or buy from their store than a blu-ray that they see no profits for.
I don't think it is Apple being stubborn as much as just business. Apple has a competing product just like MS does, that's all.

This. This thread.

[xtop]

Originally Posted by MattVollet

I mean, I love Apple so this may be biased, but you have to understand by putting Blu Ray drives in the Mac it could, at the most, deter someone from using itunes to rent in HD. Obviously Apple would rather have someone rent or buy from their store than a blu-ray that they see no profits for.
I don't think it is Apple being stubborn as much as just business. Apple has a competing product just like MS does, that's all.

what apple needs to realize is that the 2 compliment each other. they can both live in harmony.

but the better question is. can drives be made thin enough to fit in the macbooks today? if not, i can imagine them holding off until the whole lineup can have blu-ray, instead of just the desktops

Originally Posted by FendersRule

This. This thread.

when did this become cool internet speak? please include this sort of helpful insight in more threads.

[Clark Kent]

I doubt you will ever see Blu-ray on an Apple machine at this point. I think they are hoping that Blu-ray does not become a widespread computer format so they can sell video downloads. It appears their membership in the BDA was only to oppose Microsoft and nothing more.

[skyfire2261]

I Agree with you C.K. Apples vision of the future is Digital Distribution, not physical media. I for one agree with it.

Blu-ray can be as successful as it can be and even the nay-sayers against DD can talk all they want with that "must have in hand" nonsense or the slow download speeds but it's an inevitability. Earth simply hasn't the resources to keep this sort of thing up forever.

[SkillzthatKillz]

Originally Posted by skyfire2261

I Agree with you C.K. Apples vision of the future is Digital Distribution, not physical media. I for one agree with it.

Blu-ray can be as successful as it can be and even the nay-sayers against DD can talk all they want with that "must have in hand" nonsense or the slow download speeds but it's an inevitability. Earth simply hasn't the resources to keep this sort of thing up forever.

we dont have the resources to make Blu-ray discs? um, okaaayyy

[Chevypower]

Hendra, not trying to be a jerk, but "Apple" is singular, so it would be "Why is Apple being so stubborn........?"

[xtop]

Originally Posted by Chevypower

Hendra, not trying to be a jerk, but "Apple" is singular, so it would be "Why is Apple being so stubborn........?"

its a uk thing. max does it all the time and it takes some getting used to lol