Black Level Extension - Blu-ray Forum

UFAlien · 12-14-2008, 01:20 PM

My TV set has a "Black level extender" feature. It is very useful for turning bright blacks, or reddish blacks into true deep black. However, it also creates some black crush, and loses some of the detail.

I was wondering if anyone else had this feature, and what their policies for using it are.

callas01 · 12-14-2008, 01:55 PM

Leave it off. unless you like the black crush. But on my Vizios I leave it off. I think most people do regardless of brand, that way you see the film the way its intended by the director.

UFAlien · 12-14-2008, 01:57 PM

Usually I do leave it off... but on Step Brothers the blacks were so INCREDIBLY red in some scenes I found myself switching it on and off... I do lament the black crush, but the red was REALLY distracting.

callas01 · 12-14-2008, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UFAlien

Usually I do leave it off... but on Step Brothers the blacks were so INCREDIBLY red in some scenes I found myself switching it on and off... I do lament the black crush, but the red was REALLY distracting.

This was on your vizio right... is step brothers on blu or dvd, what chapter.... I have the movie on dvd from blockbuster, I could check it out in my room and see if it the movie or something with your tv....

do anyother movies have this problem?

UFAlien · 12-14-2008, 02:07 PM

Blu... and ANY interior scenes. AT ALL.

And it's not the TV... the blacks are usually pretty good, including even some scenes in the same movie. I'm pretty sure it's a fault of the transfer.

callas01 · 12-14-2008, 02:18 PM

yeah, sometimes movies have a slight color tinge to them like band of brothers has that earthy overtone, and the mummy has that golden overtone

UFAlien · 12-14-2008, 03:03 PM

No, it's not even a tint... it's just the blacks. If it were intentionally tinted that way, I'd have no problem. One Missed Call and The Eye, both of which I own, make heavy use of color filters, and I don't mind. All the colors on Step Brothers are great except for blacks. It's not an uncommon problem... just a fault of certain transfers.

12-14-2008, 01:20 PM	#1
UFAlien Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:474 Blu-ray reviews: 14 Trading Score:29	Black Level Extension My TV set has a "Black level extender" feature. It is very useful for turning bright blacks, or reddish blacks into true deep black. However, it also creates some black crush, and loses some of the detail. I was wondering if anyone else had this feature, and what their policies for using it are.

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12-14-2008, 01:55 PM	#2
callas01 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Riverside, CA Home Theater Gallery:42 Blu-ray collection:230 DVD collection:47	Leave it off. unless you like the black crush. But on my Vizios I leave it off. I think most people do regardless of brand, that way you see the film the way its intended by the director.

12-14-2008, 01:57 PM	#3
UFAlien Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:474 Blu-ray reviews: 14 Trading Score:29	Usually I do leave it off... but on Step Brothers the blacks were so INCREDIBLY red in some scenes I found myself switching it on and off... I do lament the black crush, but the red was REALLY distracting.

12-14-2008, 02:07 PM	#5
UFAlien Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:474 Blu-ray reviews: 14 Trading Score:29	Blu... and ANY interior scenes. AT ALL. And it's not the TV... the blacks are usually pretty good, including even some scenes in the same movie. I'm pretty sure it's a fault of the transfer.

12-14-2008, 02:18 PM	#6
callas01 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Riverside, CA Home Theater Gallery:42 Blu-ray collection:230 DVD collection:47	yeah, sometimes movies have a slight color tinge to them like band of brothers has that earthy overtone, and the mummy has that golden overtone

12-14-2008, 03:03 PM	#7
UFAlien Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:474 Blu-ray reviews: 14 Trading Score:29	No, it's not even a tint... it's just the blacks. If it were intentionally tinted that way, I'd have no problem. One Missed Call and The Eye, both of which I own, make heavy use of color filters, and I don't mind. All the colors on Step Brothers are great except for blacks. It's not an uncommon problem... just a fault of certain transfers.

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