Samsung Duo-player - Blu-ray Forum

Helicon · 04-13-2007, 01:00 PM

I do not know if this is old news

http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/P...413_0000338109

http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/04/12...player-on-the/

JTK · 04-13-2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Helicon

I do not know if this is old news

http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/P...413_0000338109

http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/04/12...player-on-the/

April 2007 on both of those links. Nope, those are pretty darned new.

Wonderful.

McBain · 04-13-2007, 01:09 PM

Combo players are a bad idea in the big picture.

http://www.emedialive.com/Articles/R...rticleID=12581

Eve6insideandout · 04-13-2007, 01:11 PM

This only shows that this war is going to go on for a long time. Until the capacity of HD-DVD discs can't hold up and blu-ray just out powers them. It helps that Microsoft and their partners can't come to realize how much sales help when you put a HD player onto a gaming console.

GaS · 04-13-2007, 01:16 PM

Eh. Already one of these on the market. Probably still 1000+ dollars.

JTK · 04-13-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GaS

Eh. Already one of these on the market. Probably still 1000+ dollars.

Looks like we may have two of them pretty soon, and I'm not happy about the obvious ramifications of that at all. If this endds up being confirmed, then I guess MS is going to succeed for a while, at least short term: Keep the market deliberately splintered.

JTK · 04-13-2007, 01:37 PM

The HD-DVD zealots proclaim their format as being the one to end and avoid any and all customer confusion, among many other lies.

I'm going to describe a scenario that's fairly probable at the rate this is going, and you all tell me how confusing this is or not to the average guy on the streets:

You walk into your favorite movie/electronics store one day and you look around. You see DVD in one area and that's fine. You know what that is and there's no guessing there. You look in the other direction in the high def areas. You take a walk in there and you see Blu-Ray...you kind of know what that is...you then see HD-DVD and you can easily intuit off of DVD what that is...and then you look again and you start seeing things like THD combo discs and then you start seeing dual format players.

How stupid is this? Do you buy your THD combo discs to play on your dual format hardware? Do I flip a coin to decide whether I'm in the mood to play the HD-DVD version or BD version of said title that day?

^^ All this is supposed to be to give the consumer "more choice" and "less confusion"?!?!

Rubbish.

Ascended_Saiyan · 04-13-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JTK

Looks like we may have two of them pretty soon, and I'm not happy about the obvious ramifications of that at all. If this endds up being confirmed, then I guess MS is going to succeed for a while, at least short term: Keep the market deliberately splintered.

It's been confirmed.

JTK · 04-13-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ascended_Saiyan

It's been confirmed.

Then that's truly wretched news. Very unfortunate.

powerSURG · 04-13-2007, 02:24 PM

I agree. This most definitely won't help accelerate the fall of HD-DUD.

JTK · 04-13-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by powerSURG

I agree. This most definitely won't help accelerate the fall of HD-DUD.

It continues to assure a market split and customer confusion/apathy. More needless delays.

WriteSimply · 04-13-2007, 03:05 PM

The press release is very interesting.

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"We welcome Samsung's Duo HD player as another solution in the marketplace that will help reduce consumer confusion and buyer hesitancy towards HD media," said Ron Sanders, President of Warner Home Video. "This is an innovative product that can move us closer to mainstream consumer adoption of HD technologies."

At over US$1000, only existing HD-DVD supporters who are not satisfied with the build of the Toshiba is going to buy these players. Forget average people getting these.

I predict that Samsung won't sell much of these players because of the reason above. However, that means the BDA and the movie studios must work harder to end this war.

fuad

Jazar · 04-13-2007, 03:08 PM

And the band played on... :/

JTK · 04-13-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WriteSimply

The press release is very interesting.
""We welcome Samsung's Duo HD player as another solution in the marketplace that will help reduce consumer confusion and buyer hesitancy towards HD media," said Ron Sanders, President of Warner Home Video. "This is an innovative product that can move us closer to mainstream consumer adoption of HD technologies.""

Totally out of touch with reality. Whoopie! We can all buy our combo THD discs to play on dual format players!

What's the @#$^ing point?

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At over US$1000, only existing HD-DVD supporters who are not satisfied with the build of the Toshiba is going to buy these players. Forget average people getting these.

Absolutely. It's the exact same situation as the LG player.

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I predict that Samsung won't sell much of these players because of the reason above. However, that means the BDA and the movie studios must work harder to end this war.

fuad

Quite right.

It's interesting that someone from Warner, the same studio that's riding the fence and prolonging the format war with THD combo discs, is putting over something like a combo player. Go figure.

But you're right: The BDA needs to really start showing and proving that they want to win this thing.

The Big Blue · 04-13-2007, 03:28 PM

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But you're right: The BDA needs to really start showing and proving that they want to win this thing.

Agreed. The Blu-ray side needs to get their asses in gear and end this nonsense.

marzetta7 · 04-13-2007, 03:29 PM

I agree with you JTK, this announcement from Samsung surely makes the high def arena about as clear as mud. Why Samsung? Why? When you now see Blu-ray taking a commanding lead in terms of disc sales and hardware sales do you make this announcement that causes further confusion. What we needed from Samsung was further solidarity to the BDA, and not crap about offering consumer choice, when in reality what they are offering the consumer is prolonged confusion. Don't get me wrong, I think choice is wonderful, but in terms of selling a product, often times, too much choice to the end consumer causes confusion...and this is what we have in this format war--Blu-ray, HD DVD, THD discs, Dual format players, etc.---and Samsung's announcement just further exasperates the problem.

maximus2323 · 04-13-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by marzetta7

I agree with you JTK, this announcement from Samsung surely makes the high def arena about as clear as mud. Why Samsung? Why? When you now see Blu-ray taking a commanding lead in terms of disc sales and hardware sales do you make this announcement that causes further confusion. What we needed from Samsung was further solidarity to the BDA, and not crap about offering consumer choice, when in reality what they are offering the consumer is prolonged confusion. Don't get me wrong, I think choice is wonderful, but in terms of selling a product, often times, too much choice to the end consumer causes confusion...and this is what we have in this format war--Blu-ray, HD DVD, THD discs, Dual format players, etc.---and Samsung's announcement just further exasperates the problem.

I guess they want to be the first to offer a full flege player besides LG version that is not complient to the fulliest. So I guess they went for it.

HDTV1080P · 04-13-2007, 04:09 PM

When Samsung first released the BDP-1000 it damaged the Blu-Ray camp launch image since the firmware in the player had problems and the players received bad reviews. Now Samsung is damaging the Blu-ray camp again by going combo.

HDTV1080P · 04-13-2007, 04:12 PM

Samsung just killed its sales of the BDP-1200 for $799. Consumers will wait for this combo player that sales under $1,000.

HDTV1080P · 04-13-2007, 04:36 PM

I wish the CEO’s or some executive at Best Buy and Circuit City would just stop carrying HD-DVD software. Let the retail stores make the decision on which format it should win. If Best Buy and Circuit City stopped carrying HD-DVD product then long term they would increase overall sales since there would be just one HDTV format.

04-13-2007, 01:00 PM	#1
Helicon Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Denmark	Samsung Duo-player I do not know if this is old news http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/P...413_0000338109 http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/04/12...player-on-the/

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04-13-2007, 01:09 PM	#3
McBain Senior Member Member since:Oct 2006	Combo players are a bad idea in the big picture. http://www.emedialive.com/Articles/R...rticleID=12581

04-13-2007, 01:11 PM	#4
Eve6insideandout Power Member Member since:Mar 2007 Trading Score:491	This only shows that this war is going to go on for a long time. Until the capacity of HD-DVD discs can't hold up and blu-ray just out powers them. It helps that Microsoft and their partners can't come to realize how much sales help when you put a HD player onto a gaming console.

04-13-2007, 01:16 PM	#5
GaS Senior Member Member since:Aug 2006	Eh. Already one of these on the market. Probably still 1000+ dollars.

04-13-2007, 01:37 PM	#7
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	The HD-DVD zealots proclaim their format as being the one to end and avoid any and all customer confusion, among many other lies. I'm going to describe a scenario that's fairly probable at the rate this is going, and you all tell me how confusing this is or not to the average guy on the streets: You walk into your favorite movie/electronics store one day and you look around. You see DVD in one area and that's fine. You know what that is and there's no guessing there. You look in the other direction in the high def areas. You take a walk in there and you see Blu-Ray...you kind of know what that is...you then see HD-DVD and you can easily intuit off of DVD what that is...and then you look again and you start seeing things like THD combo discs and then you start seeing dual format players. How stupid is this? Do you buy your THD combo discs to play on your dual format hardware? Do I flip a coin to decide whether I'm in the mood to play the HD-DVD version or BD version of said title that day? ^^ All this is supposed to be to give the consumer "more choice" and "less confusion"?!?! Rubbish.

04-13-2007, 02:24 PM	#10
powerSURG Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Shaw AFB, SC Blu-ray collection:42	I agree. This most definitely won't help accelerate the fall of HD-DUD.

04-13-2007, 03:08 PM	#13
Jazar Active Member Member since:Jun 2006	And the band played on... :/

04-13-2007, 03:29 PM	#16
marzetta7 Special Member Member since:Feb 2006	I agree with you JTK, this announcement from Samsung surely makes the high def arena about as clear as mud. Why Samsung? Why? When you now see Blu-ray taking a commanding lead in terms of disc sales and hardware sales do you make this announcement that causes further confusion. What we needed from Samsung was further solidarity to the BDA, and not crap about offering consumer choice, when in reality what they are offering the consumer is prolonged confusion. Don't get me wrong, I think choice is wonderful, but in terms of selling a product, often times, too much choice to the end consumer causes confusion...and this is what we have in this format war--Blu-ray, HD DVD, THD discs, Dual format players, etc.---and Samsung's announcement just further exasperates the problem.

04-13-2007, 04:09 PM	#18
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	When Samsung first released the BDP-1000 it damaged the Blu-Ray camp launch image since the firmware in the player had problems and the players received bad reviews. Now Samsung is damaging the Blu-ray camp again by going combo.

04-13-2007, 04:12 PM	#19
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	Samsung just killed its sales of the BDP-1200 for $799. Consumers will wait for this combo player that sales under $1,000.

04-13-2007, 04:36 PM	#20
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	I wish the CEO’s or some executive at Best Buy and Circuit City would just stop carrying HD-DVD software. Let the retail stores make the decision on which format it should win. If Best Buy and Circuit City stopped carrying HD-DVD product then long term they would increase overall sales since there would be just one HDTV format.

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