different picture modes matter???

[liquidice]

I've asked this before, but never really got a decent answer. If I put the exact same settings for brightness, contrast, etc...into every picture mode, will the end result be exactly the same when flipping modes? Hope that makes sense. I currently calibrated my plasma in the "custom" picture menu, but I've seen people say do it in the "film/cinema" setting. Also, are there some magic chips that come into play when having the different modes? Does VIVID use anything different than CINEMA? Do you see what I'm saying? Just wondering if anyone has tested this, thought I would ask before I start jacking up all my settings. thanks.

[Moefiz]

I have an XBR2 and for every input I have going into the TV I have a separate picture mode for it.I try to stay away from Vivid, for my HD Direct TV I used standard and for BD I use custom.

Try this http://www.tweaktv.com/ for some answers to your questions.

[liquidice]

thanks, but doesn't really answer my question, and I've turned to tweaktv before, but I hate the suggested settings they recommend. I don't ever use VIVID, I was just using that as an example.

[big-bleu]

Originally Posted by liquidice

thanks, but doesn't really answer my question, and I've turned to tweaktv before, but I hate the suggested settings they recommend. I don't ever use VIVID, I was just using that as an example.

vivid makes colors over saturated but a person can lower it thru color slider

while movie tends to washout the colors to make it blah

I have tried it on samsung and i can get the same quality in dynamic, standard

[aramis109]

I think a lot of us have either professionally calibrated sets (not me) or have looked into what experts have set their sets at and emulated that with some modifications for our own preferences and space. I don't use any "picture mode"- it's all custom.

Have you checked the display settings forum for your TV?

[My_Two_Cents]

It seems the other posters don't understand your question, but I do. Unfortunately, I don't have a definitive answer. I believe I have read that 'some' sets start with different "base" settings for each preset picture mode. By this, I mean, a 50% color for vivid is not the same as a 50% color for cinema or standard. The same goes for picture, sharpness, etc. Again, I'm not sure it is this way for all sets, but I know some are like this. You can test this by changing all of the settings on vivid and cinema to the same levels and then switching back and forth between them on a paused scene (if this is possible).

Typically, most custom settings start from the 'standard' picture mode, which is pretty much mid-point for the individual settings. In vivid/dynamic, these base settings are jacked way up and in cinema they are typically subdued for viewing in a darkened room.

I hope this helped a little.

[liquidice]

yeah, we're getting warmer here. That is the theory: what if you set every setting at 50%, in every picture mode, would it look the same? What is the picture mode doing differently than the other one?

[liquidice]

bump

[brett_day]

no you will not get the same picture through the different modes if you set the settings the same.....the reason will be because of the hidden settings in the service menus of the tv.

For example, vivid mode will have a completely different gamma settings, red, green and blue saturation levels would also be different in all of the service menus for each of the picture settings (vivid, cinema, dynamic etc), which means that you would never be able to recreate the vivid look on the cinema setting unless you went into the service menu and changed the settings in those menus to be the same for vivid and cinema....and so on

[jsteinhauer]

Originally Posted by brett_day

no you will not get the same picture through the different modes if you set the settings the same.....the reason will be because of the hidden settings in the service menus of the tv.

For example, vivid mode will have a completely different gamma settings, red, green and blue saturation levels would also be different in all of the service menus for each of the picture settings (vivid, cinema, dynamic etc), which means that you would never be able to recreate the vivid look on the cinema setting unless you went into the service menu and changed the settings in those menus to be the same for vivid and cinema....and so on

I did not even think of this. I have more work to do. I have been continually messing with my display in custom mode, without even attempting calibration in cinema mode. If the gamma settings may be different, I could have been wasting a ton of time.

[brett_day]

Originally Posted by jsteinhauer

I did not even think of this. I have more work to do. I have been continually messing with my display in custom mode, without even attempting calibration in cinema mode. If the gamma settings may be different, I could have been wasting a ton of time.

yeah that's why there is always one setting that is more accurate for color reproduction. On the panny's cinema mode is the most accurate in regards to gamma levels and color saturation's. I spent a ton of time in the service menu's of my friends sammy lcd after he jacked around in the service menu and screwed up his set. All of the picture modes have completely different settings in the service menu, which the end user can then tweak from the user menu's we have access to at home

[liquidice]

ok, this all makes very good sense...thanks. I have only done my optimizing in custom, and have always been very happy with the results. I suppose I'll sit down something and do the same on the cinema setting.