Planet Earth - Interesting TidBit

[DrinkMore]

Was looking on Ebay for pricing on Planet Earth BD and HD-DVD.

I notice there were more people biding on PE BD than the 1 soul on the HD-DVD version of PE.

Lol. Kinda funny.

[dialog_gvf]

Here's another one:

VC-1 and POSTERIZATION

People are saying that the H.264 HD broadcasts in Europe of the series are mostly fine, but the BD/HD DVD (identical VC-1 encoding) are showing major posterization problems.

Yet another problem with a Warner HD DVD bit-rate VC-1 encoding.

Gary

[MatrixS2000]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Yet another problem with a Warner HD DVD bit-rate VC-1 encoding.

Gary

Have to agree! Bit starving again....

[DrinkMore]

So your saying the BD version of PE does not suffer from the problems that the HD-DVD version of PE does?

[MatrixS2000]

It will IF we get the same encoding that they did for HD DVD version - which is what WB usually does to us.

If not, BD would most likely not have this problem...

[jason_grumpy]

Originally Posted by MatrixS2000

It will IF we get the same encoding that they did for HD DVD version - which is what WB usually does to us.

If not, BD would most likely not have this problem...

It is there. In the initial thread discussing this issue on AVS I posted 19 different incidences of posterization in the first 1 1/2 hours of Disc 2 of planet earth with time codes and bit rates. Some are more obvious than others, but they are there. That thread also has screen shots pretty close to the time frames I reported.

[donricouga]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

So your saying the BD version of PE does not suffer from the problems that the HD-DVD version of PE does?

No, they both suffer.
A nice mpeg-4/avc high bitrate encoding to fill the blu belly would probably have helped though

[Blu Tiger]

So PQ is not good?

[MatrixS2000]

Originally Posted by jason_grumpy

It is there. In the initial thread discussing this issue on AVS I posted 19 different incidences of posterization in the first 1 1/2 hours of Disc 2 of planet earth with time codes and bit rates. Some are more obvious than others, but they are there. That thread also has screen shots pretty close to the time frames I reported.

Oh I don't doubt it - but it's because the same thing keeps happening...WB ported the HD DVD encode to BD instead of doing a high bit rate encode for BD - so BD is stuck with the limitations of the inferior HD DVD format.

A high bit rate AVC or VC-1 encode would have produced better results for BD but WB can't use it on HD DVD because of it's limitations....

[WriteSimply]

Warner screwed the pooch yet again. They could've done it right by putting less episodes per disc on HD-DVD and using BD50 for the same number of episodes.

Warner was good with DVD. Not with BD.


fuad

[Shin-Ra]

Someone needs to take some A Scanner Darkly (Warner VC-1) shots because that's far worse than those Happy Feet and Planet Earth shots. The macroblocking is a joke.

[Rustmonsteru]

Garrrr! I'm really beginning to despise Warner. Would releasing on BD-50 have helped this or is the encode just junk regardless of bandwidth? Someone should lose their head over this kind of thing involving a flagship show.

[Forresttheman]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

Was looking on Ebay for pricing on Planet Earth BD and HD-DVD.

I notice there were more people biding on PE BD than the 1 soul on the HD-DVD version of PE.

Lol. Kinda funny.

I just bought Planet Earth on Ebay! I cannot wait for it to arrive.

[Heresy]

Originally Posted by Rustmonsteru

Garrrr! I'm really beginning to despise Warner. Would releasing on BD-50 have helped this or is the encode just junk regardless of bandwidth? Someone should lose their head over this kind of thing involving a flagship show.

If they did a separate encode for the BD at a higher bit rate it certainly could have been better. Of course Warner doesn't care about making quality Blu-rays since they only give us ported versions off of the inherently inferior HD-DVD.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

So your saying the BD version of PE does not suffer from the problems that the HD-DVD version of PE does?

They are basically the exact same encoding. Warner doesn't try to encode for Blu-ray bandwidth, they merely port the HD DVD encoding (flag fixup).

Gary

[DrinkMore]

Well, thats pretty freaking stupid. Then why bother buying BD when HD-DVD is the same thing?

Why would they do that? Seems like they just want more money and really don't give a shit.

[WeApOn]

That's unforunate. I saw most of the episodes, missed maybe 1 or two, some I saw 3 times. I want to buy the blu-ray of it, but $67 for a crappy port? Is it worth it???

[Heresy]

It's still worth it and it looks very good (and I like David Attenborough's voiceover a LOT more than Sigourney's); it's just not close to a top of the line transfer.

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by Heresy

It's still worth it and it looks very good (and I like David Attenborough's voiceover a LOT more than Sigourney's); it's just not close to a top of the line transfer.

I think the consumer is getting screwed here.

New technology - BD - Higher price - yet all the studios care about is getting movies out to get as much money as possible.

I have no problem with people wanting to make money, but damn - give us something for it instead of a shitty repro.

[MatrixS2000]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

Well, thats pretty freaking stupid. Then why bother buying BD when HD-DVD is the same thing?

Only for WB release. BDA releases are where BD shines....