German Blu-Rays with new FSK Logo - Blu-ray Forum

American Baron · 01-26-2009, 07:42 PM

Hey all,

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here yet what's being discussed (very heavily) here in Germany, so I just wanted to let you guys know that a new law is requiring all Studios to release their BDs (including Steelbooks) with new larger Age Rating logos know as FSK Logos. Here is an example of the upcoming Bond BD at Amazon.de:

This will start showing up on new Releases! The Studios are already looking for "Loopholes" and will most likely be using "Flip Covers" for the Amarays, but it will be very intersting to see if they figure out a way to save the Steelbooks.

Like I said, I didn't know if this was known by the Steelbook Community or not, but being that most of those gorgeous Steelbooks we have all grown to love come from here, I thought you may just be interested in knowing.

AB

geto10 · 01-26-2009, 07:59 PM

Awful!!!

Morphine · 01-26-2009, 08:50 PM

Looks horrible

American Baron · 01-26-2009, 08:59 PM

Jep. New Releases will be getting this treatment and Catalog Titles will need to be updated by 2010. Like I said, very hot Topic here!

AnimeOnBlu · 01-26-2009, 09:38 PM

Could they not just put the ratings on a sticker and place it on the plastic covering the blu-ray?

American Baron · 01-27-2009, 06:39 AM

The new law states that the Logo must be printed onto the Cover, so a sticker is not sufficient. The Flip-Cover is a great idea for working around the "De-Facing" for the Amarays, it obviously wouldn't work on Steelbooks.

Transporter · 01-27-2009, 06:57 AM

The artwork on the cover looks very poor even without the logo so there's not much a logo could do worse. Couldn't they simply take an actual picture instead of this painted Daniel Craig?

But best of all about the logos is the PG 0 logo. There's no restriction, but you have to tell people there's none by a white "0" logo. Long live German bureaucracy!

OrlandoEastwood · 01-27-2009, 08:06 AM

Wow, that sucks. I remember living in Germany and being surprised on how the stores acted on all those FSK 18 rated movies. All though, I do think it's dumb that they had that small as hell text in the color area for the rating. And I personally think pasting it on the front looks tacky like how the other European countries do their releases.

jw · 01-27-2009, 08:09 AM

no different than buying a UK movie, they have 2 logos

katharsis · 01-27-2009, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by American Baron

Hey all,

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here yet what's being discussed (very heavily) here in Germany, so I just wanted to let you guys know that a new law is requiring all Studios to release their BDs (including Steelbooks) with new larger Age Rating logos know as FSK Logos. Here is an example of the upcoming Bond BD at Amazon.de:

This will start showing up on new Releases! The Studios are already looking for "Loopholes" and will most likely be using "Flip Covers" for the Amarays, but it will be very intersting to see if they figure out a way to save the Steelbooks.

Like I said, I didn't know if this was known by the Steelbook Community or not, but being that most of those gorgeous Steelbooks we have all grown to love come from here, I thought you may just be interested in knowing.

AB

Is the FSK logo just going to be on the back as usual or on the front like pictured? If so, it is a horrible decision and I am sure if they cannot find any loopholes there will be a lot less units sold.

This makes it look like a cheap rental copy at Blockbuster.

Anyways, can you post some links about this (even if its just in german, would like to read up on it)?

demiscy · 01-27-2009, 09:16 AM

doesn't that look like a sticker? it seems see-through

Sky_Captain · 01-27-2009, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwbbud

no different than buying a UK movie, they have 2 logos

You can't even compare the two. The Germans seem to be trying to outdo the Australians for worst looking ratings logo.

graf1k · 01-27-2009, 10:28 AM

Maybe they can just do a paper cover sheet glued to the front of steelbooks, kind of like the Canadian steelbook of TDK had all the info on the back on a sheet that peeled off. I mean, once you've bought it, is there really much risk of kids being 'corrupted' by watching a movie that wouldn't have access to it anyway. I mean, how many kids are going to go to dad's collection of movies when he's not around, look at the rating and say "Well, I'm not old enough yet. I'll wait."?

katharsis · 01-28-2009, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demiscy

doesn't that look like a sticker? it seems see-through

It does look like a sticker... I sure hope it is!

American Baron · 01-28-2009, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katharsis

It does look like a sticker... I sure hope it is!

As mentioned above, it's not a sticker. If it was, thre really wouldn't be such an Uproar

The Logo must be printed on the Cover! Some Studios have already stated that they would Release with Flip Covers meaning that the backside of the cover would contain the Artwork without the Logo. This allows you to take out the cover, flip it over and you're all set. I mainly posted this for the Steelbook Collectors here, as there is no known Workaround for those!

AB

andreasy969 · 01-28-2009, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katharsis

It does look like a sticker... I sure hope it is!

Sorry, but it definitely won't be a sticker. I live in Germany and there are HEAVY discussions on this topic in our forums. Our new/extended protection of minors law (Jugendschutzgesetz) demands the logo to be printed (unremovable!) on the case. A removable sticker is not allowed. So the logo will be printed on the steelbook.

I won't buy any German release that has the new logo, because IMHO it destroys the whole cover

. I will buy such a disc only if there is no other (import) option...

jw · 06-08-2009, 11:12 AM

Heres the new look of Tomb Raider courtesy of FSK

tomb raider.jpg

Harry Caul · 06-12-2009, 05:50 AM

But it should be mentioned that with the new german rating nothing changes at all so it`s basically jus't a shot in the dark. Because you will still get an 18 rated Movie or Game in most places when you're underage. It has been tested so many times on Television and don't even care to watch it anymore. But it's like in America politicians trying to put the blame on Music, Movies and Games if someone goes berserk and shoots down 20 Schoolkids instead of admitting they where psychos and their parents are still psychos on the loose.

RYJAPE21 · 10-12-2009, 08:37 PM

The German release of Resident Evil: Apocalypse is the extended cut (not released in the US). I found it here on German Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.de/Resident-Evil-Apocalypse-Milla-Jovovich/dp/B000TUM1BC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1255379298&sr=1-4

Anyone know the region code of this and whether or not it would play in a US PS3? I'm trying to find out if it's region free but I cannot find it on the list of region codes (unless I missed it.)

melbye · 10-12-2009, 09:01 PM

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01-26-2009, 07:42 PM	#1
American Baron Expert Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Germany Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:8 Trading Score:55	German Blu-Rays with new FSK Logo Hey all, I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here yet what's being discussed (very heavily) here in Germany, so I just wanted to let you guys know that a new law is requiring all Studios to release their BDs (including Steelbooks) with new larger Age Rating logos know as FSK Logos. Here is an example of the upcoming Bond BD at Amazon.de: This will start showing up on new Releases! The Studios are already looking for "Loopholes" and will most likely be using "Flip Covers" for the Amarays, but it will be very intersting to see if they figure out a way to save the Steelbooks. Like I said, I didn't know if this was known by the Steelbook Community or not, but being that most of those gorgeous Steelbooks we have all grown to love come from here, I thought you may just be interested in knowing. AB

06-12-2009, 05:50 AM	#18
Harry Caul Active Member Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:643 Blu-ray reviews: 4	German ratings But it should be mentioned that with the new german rating nothing changes at all so it`s basically jus't a shot in the dark. Because you will still get an 18 rated Movie or Game in most places when you're underage. It has been tested so many times on Television and don't even care to watch it anymore. But it's like in America politicians trying to put the blame on Music, Movies and Games if someone goes berserk and shoots down 20 Schoolkids instead of admitting they where psychos and their parents are still psychos on the loose.

10-12-2009, 08:37 PM	#19
RYJAPE21 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Maryland 4K collection:247 Blu-ray collection:910 Blu-ray reviews:1	Question about German Region Codes The German release of Resident Evil: Apocalypse is the extended cut (not released in the US). I found it here on German Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.de/Resident-Evil-Apocalypse-Milla-Jovovich/dp/B000TUM1BC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1255379298&sr=1-4 Anyone know the region code of this and whether or not it would play in a US PS3? I'm trying to find out if it's region free but I cannot find it on the list of region codes (unless I missed it.)

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01-26-2009, 07:59 PM	#2
geto10 Senior Member Member since:Jul 2008 Trading Score:20	Awful!!!

01-26-2009, 08:50 PM	#3
Morphine Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Lake Mary, FL Steelbooks™: 100+ Blu-ray collection:298 Trading Score:15	Looks horrible

01-26-2009, 08:59 PM	#4
American Baron Expert Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Germany Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:8 Trading Score:55	Jep. New Releases will be getting this treatment and Catalog Titles will need to be updated by 2010. Like I said, very hot Topic here!

01-26-2009, 09:38 PM	#5
AnimeOnBlu Contributor Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:USA Trading Score:1	Could they not just put the ratings on a sticker and place it on the plastic covering the blu-ray?

01-27-2009, 06:39 AM	#6
American Baron Expert Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Germany Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:8 Trading Score:55	The new law states that the Logo must be printed onto the Cover, so a sticker is not sufficient. The Flip-Cover is a great idea for working around the "De-Facing" for the Amarays, it obviously wouldn't work on Steelbooks.

01-27-2009, 06:57 AM	#7
Transporter Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Munich / Germany Blu-ray SteelBooks™: 80 Blu-ray collection:269 Trading Score:12	The artwork on the cover looks very poor even without the logo so there's not much a logo could do worse. Couldn't they simply take an actual picture instead of this painted Daniel Craig? But best of all about the logos is the PG 0 logo. There's no restriction, but you have to tell people there's none by a white "0" logo. Long live German bureaucracy!

01-27-2009, 08:06 AM	#8
OrlandoEastwood Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:R-Point Blu-ray reviews:86 Trading Score:24	Wow, that sucks. I remember living in Germany and being surprised on how the stores acted on all those FSK 18 rated movies. All though, I do think it's dumb that they had that small as hell text in the color area for the rating. And I personally think pasting it on the front looks tacky like how the other European countries do their releases.

01-27-2009, 08:09 AM	#9
jw Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2007 Location:USA Trading Score:519	no different than buying a UK movie, they have 2 logos

01-27-2009, 09:16 AM	#11
demiscy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Nicosia, CY (EU) Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:31	doesn't that look like a sticker? it seems see-through

01-27-2009, 10:28 AM	#13
graf1k Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2008 Location:🆇🆇🆇🆇 Trading Score:198	Maybe they can just do a paper cover sheet glued to the front of steelbooks, kind of like the Canadian steelbook of TDK had all the info on the back on a sheet that peeled off. I mean, once you've bought it, is there really much risk of kids being 'corrupted' by watching a movie that wouldn't have access to it anyway. I mean, how many kids are going to go to dad's collection of movies when he's not around, look at the rating and say "Well, I'm not old enough yet. I'll wait."?

06-08-2009, 11:12 AM	#17
jw Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2007 Location:USA Trading Score:519	Heres the new look of Tomb Raider courtesy of FSK tomb raider.jpg

10-12-2009, 09:01 PM	#20
melbye Active Member Top contributor Member since:May 2009 Location:Oslo, Norway DVD collection:24	http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparison....php?fid=10798

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