Getting ready to use DVE Bluray cal disc? about DLp/Palsma and Bluray settings? - Blu-ray Forum

JOE.G · 02-02-2009, 02:39 PM

Before I use the DVE bluray calabration disc where do i want these settings?

In the DLP HLT6176S what should i have these set to
Contrast high,med,low?
Black level high,med,low?
Color Mode: sRGB or normal?
Edge enhancment?

DMP 55 blu ray hooked to above tv
black level darker or lighter?
Film mode auto ?
Picture normal? fine? cinema?

Also have a PN50A650 Plasma with a 10 ak bluray hooked to it same ? apply to this set up also. Thanks

skinnhc · 02-02-2009, 07:28 PM

Do not know your specific models but this I can tell you:
When Calibrating you need to turn OFF any "features" that the TV uses to "help" the viewing experience..e.g. Black level, Dynamic Contrast, Edge Enhancement etc etc.. do use srgb..it will give you the better colors...and do use Movie mode...hope it helps

bhampton · 02-02-2009, 09:06 PM

Maybe I'm mis-reading your post...

You don't try and set those things because you're about to use DVE.... You instead use DVE to set those things.

Anyway... I suggest watching though the tutorials on DVE as they explain how and why you should use it.

Good Luck,

Brian

bhampton · 02-02-2009, 09:10 PM

Film mode Auto sounds right.

Edge Enhancement Off if that's an option. Sometimes Sharpness to 0 or mid-point is the same thing as no edge enhancement.

Black Level --- that's a highly debated one. If you calibrate you should get the same results with either setting... The darker is for displays that can use blacker than black to set the black level... you may want to explore that.

Contrast and Black level of the display device will be adjusted with test patterns from the disc... hopefully it's not a matter of High, Med, Low.. that doesn't sound too good ... should be more like 0 to 100 for both settings.

JOE.G · 02-03-2009, 06:38 AM

it does have 0 100 for contrast, but there also is another contrast in detailed settings that has low med high. What about warm cool normal?

bhampton · 02-03-2009, 02:03 PM

Joe,

What's a DLP HLT6176S???

I can look up recommended setting to start with on tweaktv.com but ... I actually don't know what that is. I assume it's a flat screen DLP HDTV but it doesn't seem to be from Hitachi so... what is it?

I also don't understand this...

"Also have a PN50A650 Plasma with a 10 ak bluray"

Seems you have another HDTV... You will have to do them one by one.

-Brian

bhampton · 02-03-2009, 02:08 PM

Seems like the first one is a Samsung... Here are recommended starting settings..

http://www.tweaktv.com/tweak-my-tv/c...-hl-t6187.html

Seems the second one is a also a Samsung... Here are recommended setting for a similar model....

http://www.tweaktv.com/tweak-my-tv/c...-pn50a550.html

JOE.G · 02-03-2009, 03:34 PM

I am sorry, they are both samsungs, in my sig below I have the whole name spelled out.

Due I want to use cinema standard or dynamic, what about the temp? Due I want to use the filters that came with the tv? Both of my tvs have a blue screen.

How about the noise adjuster? on or off?

What about teh gamma and indvidual color adjuster? due I need to touch them?

the DLP has SRGB or Normal option which due I want?
the plasma has XVYCC Color on or off whitch due I want?

The 87 model that you posted is a LED based DLP I have a BULB, Due I want to use them as a base and then use the DVE from there? thanks

bhampton · 02-03-2009, 10:53 PM

You will likely have better luck with the "cinema" setting. Dynamic is for watching broadcast sports (for the most part.)

If your sets let you output just blue then you don't need the filters but it may be interesting to try it both ways just for kicks. (Saturation and Hue really shouldn't apply to HDMI video... those are left overs from composite and S-video type of stuff.)

Gamma could be adjusted with test patterns. To adjust the individual colors you want a color meter.

I suggest using TweakTV setting and then go from there. DVE explains a lot of what and how you use it (and why.)

Twitch9 · 02-04-2009, 01:00 AM

Movie setting , warm 2 is recommended by most setting sites. Good place to start.

Santeria · 02-04-2009, 02:27 AM

sorry kinda hijacking the thread but..
does anyone know if DVE is available @ blockbuster?

Go Blue · 02-04-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Santeria

sorry kinda hijacking the thread but..
does anyone know if DVE is available @ blockbuster?

It may be at one of their stores, but it is not available to be shipped by mail from them.

JOE.G · 02-04-2009, 05:14 PM

any one have instructions for useing teh test patterns? I have watched the video but is it hard to follow.

02-02-2009, 02:39 PM	#1
JOE.G Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NY	Getting ready to use DVE Bluray cal disc? about DLp/Palsma and Bluray settings? Before I use the DVE bluray calabration disc where do i want these settings? In the DLP HLT6176S what should i have these set to Contrast high,med,low? Black level high,med,low? Color Mode: sRGB or normal? Edge enhancment? DMP 55 blu ray hooked to above tv black level darker or lighter? Film mode auto ? Picture normal? fine? cinema? Also have a PN50A650 Plasma with a 10 ak bluray hooked to it same ? apply to this set up also. Thanks

02-03-2009, 02:08 PM	#7
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Seems like the first one is a Samsung... Here are recommended starting settings.. http://www.tweaktv.com/tweak-my-tv/c...-hl-t6187.html Seems the second one is a also a Samsung... Here are recommended setting for a similar model.... http://www.tweaktv.com/tweak-my-tv/c...-pn50a550.html Last edited by bhampton; 02-03-2009 at 02:10 PM.

02-03-2009, 03:34 PM	#8
JOE.G Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NY	I am sorry, they are both samsungs, in my sig below I have the whole name spelled out. Due I want to use cinema standard or dynamic, what about the temp? Due I want to use the filters that came with the tv? Both of my tvs have a blue screen. How about the noise adjuster? on or off? What about teh gamma and indvidual color adjuster? due I need to touch them? the DLP has SRGB or Normal option which due I want? the plasma has XVYCC Color on or off whitch due I want? The 87 model that you posted is a LED based DLP I have a BULB, Due I want to use them as a base and then use the DVE from there? thanks Last edited by JOE.G; 02-03-2009 at 03:41 PM.

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02-02-2009, 07:28 PM	#2
skinnhc Junior Member Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:134 Digital collection:145	Do not know your specific models but this I can tell you: When Calibrating you need to turn OFF any "features" that the TV uses to "help" the viewing experience..e.g. Black level, Dynamic Contrast, Edge Enhancement etc etc.. do use srgb..it will give you the better colors...and do use Movie mode...hope it helps

02-02-2009, 09:06 PM	#3
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Maybe I'm mis-reading your post... You don't try and set those things because you're about to use DVE.... You instead use DVE to set those things. Anyway... I suggest watching though the tutorials on DVE as they explain how and why you should use it. Good Luck, Brian

02-02-2009, 09:10 PM	#4
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Film mode Auto sounds right. Edge Enhancement Off if that's an option. Sometimes Sharpness to 0 or mid-point is the same thing as no edge enhancement. Black Level --- that's a highly debated one. If you calibrate you should get the same results with either setting... The darker is for displays that can use blacker than black to set the black level... you may want to explore that. Contrast and Black level of the display device will be adjusted with test patterns from the disc... hopefully it's not a matter of High, Med, Low.. that doesn't sound too good ... should be more like 0 to 100 for both settings.

02-03-2009, 06:38 AM	#5
JOE.G Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NY	it does have 0 100 for contrast, but there also is another contrast in detailed settings that has low med high. What about warm cool normal?

02-03-2009, 02:03 PM	#6
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	Joe, What's a DLP HLT6176S??? I can look up recommended setting to start with on tweaktv.com but ... I actually don't know what that is. I assume it's a flat screen DLP HDTV but it doesn't seem to be from Hitachi so... what is it? I also don't understand this... "Also have a PN50A650 Plasma with a 10 ak bluray" Seems you have another HDTV... You will have to do them one by one. -Brian

02-03-2009, 10:53 PM	#9
bhampton Blu-ray Count Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:981 Blu-ray collection:2537 DVD collection:67 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:18	You will likely have better luck with the "cinema" setting. Dynamic is for watching broadcast sports (for the most part.) If your sets let you output just blue then you don't need the filters but it may be interesting to try it both ways just for kicks. (Saturation and Hue really shouldn't apply to HDMI video... those are left overs from composite and S-video type of stuff.) Gamma could be adjusted with test patterns. To adjust the individual colors you want a color meter. I suggest using TweakTV setting and then go from there. DVE explains a lot of what and how you use it (and why.)

02-04-2009, 01:00 AM	#10
Twitch9 Expert Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Canada Home Theater Gallery:83 Blu-ray collection:49 Blu-ray reviews:16 Trading Score:2	Movie setting , warm 2 is recommended by most setting sites. Good place to start.

02-04-2009, 02:27 AM	#11
Santeria Special Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:San Diego Home Theater Gallery:14 Blu-ray collection:20 Trading Score:4	sorry kinda hijacking the thread but.. does anyone know if DVE is available @ blockbuster?

02-04-2009, 05:14 PM	#13
JOE.G Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NY	any one have instructions for useing teh test patterns? I have watched the video but is it hard to follow.

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