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Old 03-03-2009, 10:09 PM   #1
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I'm not an obsessed Disney fan at all but it often surprises me how many people are completely negative about it. I really just watch High School Musical and Hannah Montana. I've seen other shows and yes, they all have cheesy moments and most of them aren't really worth seeing.

That being said it's harmless entertainment and they have good morales.

So where does the hatred come from? Maybe...

1. Merchandising - Disney really milks they're cash-cows to the last drop. It's annoying but I don't see why it should cause much negativity.

2. Pop - Lately Disney shows are music-centric. The people either sing on the show or have musical careers. Personally I love pop and while not all Disney pop is good (Demi and Miley are best) you can always not listen to it.

3. Fans - I'm sure some people might be negative about stuff purely because someone annoying they know likes it. I've done that myself. The reason I didn't like Scarface is probably because people quoted it to death before I even seen it.

Even with all of that and me admitting most of the shows aren't that good, I get bothered when people HATE stuff without really giving it a chance. Opinions?

Please post thoughtfully...
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:13 PM   #2
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I know that Disney is responsible for the worst pandemic to ever hit our country. The "princess" syndrome. All girls now expect to never have to do anything, and be waited on 24/7. Where did they learn this? Disney, with all their "princess" shit they push everywhere, on top of the tv shows and movies. Now with Hanna Montanna, it's even worse, because every little girl is growing up, obsessed with a spolied, barely talented Princess in the limelight. The Princess Syndrome pandemic is only going to get worse from here, and it's solely blamed on Disney.
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:16 PM   #3
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^^^did you spell your user name wrong on purpose?
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:17 PM   #4
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Old 03-03-2009, 11:59 PM   #5
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My daughter watches Disney Channel all the time. Occasionally, when she leaves the room, I am too lazy to change the channel and keep watching Disney. It is reasonably entertaining and mostly harmless. Although at times it is almost oppressively politically correct.

I don't think Disney can be blamed for the "princess syndrome". I suspect the "princess syndrome" is probably due to the large number of educated well-off people who have only one or two children later in life.
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:06 AM   #6
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Good morals? is this the same Disney that was putting sexual messages in there movies a while back
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:06 AM   #7
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Why are people negitive towards it, High School Musical and such create so much money
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:17 AM   #8
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I'm not an obsessed Disney fan at all but it often surprises me how many people are completely negative about it. I really just watch High School Musical and Hannah Montana. I've seen other shows and yes, they all have cheesy moments and most of them aren't really worth seeing.

That being said it's harmless entertainment and they have good morales.

So where does the hatred come from? Maybe...

1. Merchandising - Disney really milks they're cash-cows to the last drop. It's annoying but I don't see why it should cause much negativity.

2. Pop - Lately Disney shows are music-centric. The people either sing on the show or have musical careers. Personally I love pop and while not all Disney pop is good (Demi and Miley are best) you can always not listen to it.

3. Fans - I'm sure some people might be negative about stuff purely because someone annoying they know likes it. I've done that myself. The reason I didn't like Scarface is probably because people quoted it to death before I even seen it.

Even with all of that and me admitting most of the shows aren't that good, I get bothered when people HATE stuff without really giving it a chance. Opinions?

Please post thoughtfully...
I just think the shows are garbage. I remember when the Disney Channel was actually the Disney Channel, and they weren't in a deathmatch with Nickelodeon, and they showed actual WALT Disney films...then slowly, these got shoved into late night, then shoved into the graveyard hours, and now they aren't shown at all, and the channel is littered with commercials and low-production-value tweener-oriented garbage. HSM was awful. Hannah Montana awful. Even Stevens, whatever the hell that show was with the rich aryan twins -- garbage. Walt Disney won Emmy's for his TV shows. The Mickey Mouse Club was astonishing for it's time. I think the Disney Channel as presently constituted is an embarassment. And the parade of former Disney Channel stars who have gone on to become the skank ho and slut du jour grows longer by the day.

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Old 03-04-2009, 12:41 AM   #9
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Good morals? is this the same Disney that was putting sexual messages in there movies a while back
which ones are you refering to?
i know about the lion king one and the little mermaid cover art

were there others?
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:43 AM   #10
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I just think the shows are garbage. I remember when the Disney Channel was actually the Disney Channel, and they weren't in a deathmatch with Nickelodeon, and they showed actual WALT Disney films...then slowly, these got shoved into late night, then shoved into the graveyard hours, and now they aren't shown at all, and the channel is littered with commercials and low-production-value tweener-oriented garbage. HSM was awful. Hannah Montana awful. Even Stevens, whatever the hell that show was with the rich aryan twins -- garbage. Walt Disney won Emmy's for his TV shows. The Mickey Mouse Club was astonishing for it's time. I think the Disney Channel as presently constituted is an embarassment. And the parade of former Disney Channel stars who have gone on to become the skank ho and slut du jour grows longer by the day.
i miss they old shows and cartoons from the 90s (and some from the 80s)
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:45 AM   #11
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I just think the shows are garbage. I remember when the Disney Channel was actually the Disney Channel, and they weren't in a deathmatch with Nickelodeon, and they showed actual WALT Disney films...then slowly, these got shoved into late night, then shoved into the graveyard hours, and now they aren't shown at all, and the channel is littered with commercials and low-production-value tweener-oriented garbage. HSM was awful. Hannah Montana awful. Even Stevens, whatever the hell that show was with the rich aryan twins -- garbage. Walt Disney won Emmy's for his TV shows. The Mickey Mouse Club was astonishing for it's time. I think the Disney Channel as presently constituted is an embarassment. And the parade of former Disney Channel stars who have gone on to become the skank ho and slut du jour grows longer by the day.
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:48 AM   #12
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i miss they old shows and cartoons from the 90s (and some from the 80s)
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nuf said!
+1 used to love that show
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:54 AM   #13
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which ones are you refering to?
i know about the lion king one and the little mermaid cover art

were there others?
I think it might have been Aladdin, One scene one of the bad guy's had a boner
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I think it might have been Aladdin, One scene one of the bad guy's had a boner
haha wow
i definitly never caught that

of course i never caught the other two until someone told me about them
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:04 AM   #15
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+1 used to love that show
who didnt!


also....
ducktales
mighty ducks
darkwing duck

wats up with disney and ducks in the 90s?
oh well they were all good
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Duck Tales was awesome.
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i loved it when they had syndicate shows on like Boy Meets World. My favorite show of all time.
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:11 AM   #18
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i loved it when they had syndicate shows on like Boy Meets World. My favorite show of all time.


smallville is probably my favorite show of all time
but boymeets world is favorite comedy hands down
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I know that Disney is responsible for the worst pandemic to ever hit our country. The "princess" syndrome. All girls now expect to never have to do anything, and be waited on 24/7. Where did they learn this? Disney, with all their "princess" shit they push everywhere, on top of the tv shows and movies. Now with Hanna Montanna, it's even worse, because every little girl is growing up, obsessed with a spolied, barely talented Princess in the limelight. The Princess Syndrome pandemic is only going to get worse from here, and it's solely blamed on Disney.
Right, um, yeah, okay. Maybe instead of blaming Disney you should put the blame where it actually belongs, with the parents. If the parents were doing their job, it wouldn't matter what message Disney or any other media outlet was putting out.

And really the "princess" syndrome seems to more come from the media's obsession with showing all of the outrageous exploits of rich trash skanks like Paris Hilton, Nicole Ritchie and Lindsay Lohan.
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Right, um, yeah, okay. Maybe instead of blaming Disney you should put the blame where it actually belongs, with the parents. If the parents were doing their job, it wouldn't matter what message Disney or any other media outlet was putting out.

And really the "princess" syndrome seems to more come from the media's obsession with showing all of the outrageous exploits of rich trash skanks like Paris Hilton, Nicole Ritchie and Lindsay Lohan.
2 points for you!
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