On live

[mrb713]

All I can say is WHoa! What do u guys think about Onlive ?

[Idealsupra]

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[Xerios]

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[PEDXING]

I dunno how I feel about it. I think I'll stick with traditional console gaming for a long time to come. It's frustrating enough when I get kicked out of a online match of Killzone 2, let alone the entire game I might be playing.

I just don't think the demands it calls for in terms of internet power are where they need to be yet. Something about it just seems too good to be true, I don't even like the quality of downloaded/streaming "HD" content, and they want to stream games? Doesn't seem realistic yet.

The concept is pretty cool though.

[Septimus Prime]

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost...7&postcount=33

Originally Posted by Septimus Prime

You know, I was actually at E3 the one year that Infinium Labs showed up, and I've actually seen the working Phantom prototype. They sure had a nice booth, with couches and everything. I would hang out there for a while, taking their free water and resting on their soft couches. Oh, and it was one of the more quiet booths too, since not a lot of people were walking through.

But yeah. How did that turn out? Oh right. It didn't. Infinium Labs disappeared, along with their venture capitalists' money. At least I got to reap a small benefit from the Phantom.

On another forum, we're also having an ongoing discussion about this thing (http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=182497 if you want to read that). I think it's a cool concept but ultimately vaporware, just like Phantom and M2 and anything else that claimed to do the same thing in the past. Seems to me it's a "solution" to a "problem" that doesn't actually exist.

[bilbravo]

I truly and sincerely do not understand the desire of consumers to want everything downloaded and streamed. For music and movies it may be nice, but I'd rather stream it locally. Watching adn listening to meida "on demand" from my PC on my TV (using the PS3) is great, but I still like buying discs from the get-go. Downloading a small game here and there for the PS3 is nice, but ultimately I try to hold back because you know what will happen in a few years... it will no longer be playable. That being said, I can certainly understand why content providers are pushing it. They decide what, how, when, and where you can play.

Remember the SEGA channel? What happens when they decide a game you like playing isn't popular enough to store and stream any longer? You're out of luck.

Not to mention that this won't work in the real world (yet). Broadband penetration is not there.

The next generation of game consoles will still use discs primarily. Handheld consoles probably will not. DLC will still be a cash-cow. OnLive will be DOA.

So do I need to tell you what I think about this?

[AcidBurn003]

First here is a link to a cnet article about On Live:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-10...CmoreStories.0

Second i really don't think it will work at least not yet. I mean i still prefer a disc that i can hold in my hand. Then there's broadband issues and like bilbravo said what if they decide your game is not popular enough and take it down. For me my internet connection is not reliable at night when i play online. O well let them try, it wont hurt anything!

[Xerios]

your Fn insane if u think OnLive will even touch the sales of the Ps36ii

[dereksworl]

Eh. Console Vs. OnLive = Blu-ray Vs. DDs. I see no immediate danger.

[Seeking_Alpha]

here's some video interview from gametrailers:

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/11029.html

I think its looks promising. I have a rock solid internet connection and being able to play high quality PC games like crysis on a $800 laptop is quite attractive.

[jkwest]

posted already..
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=92263

nobody commented on it, but, it was here first...

[Dirk504]

What about all of those people who don't have or want the internet at their homes. I like playing online and it's the only reason I have the internet at my house. If I decide to cancel my internet... will I still be able to use OnLive? I'm on the cpu all day at work, so no need to use it when I'm at home.

[toef]

Originally Posted by Dirk504

What about all of those people who don't have or want the internet at their homes.

All 4 or 5 of those people? Chances are if you don't want the internet at your house, you probably don't play many games. If you buy tons of $60 games, paying $50 a month for the internet probably isn't unreasonable.

[brettallica]

Originally Posted by toefer

All 4 or 5 of those people? Chances are if you don't want the internet at your house, you probably don't play many games. If you buy tons of $60 games, paying $50 a month for the internet probably isn't unreasonable.

No kidding. Who doesn't have internet nowadays?

[Terjyn]

I think it's a crock of bull. Look at how long it takes to connect to BD-live on day one. Look how long it takes to download a World of Warcraft patch. Look at how long demos take to download even from Xbox Live.

I'm sure it works beautifully on a network that no one else is using.

I also bet that in "mass release" it bombs because NO ONE gets enough bandwidth to actually play the game.

[Uniquely]

Originally Posted by bilbravo

For music and movies it may be nice, but I'd rather stream it locally. Watching adn listening to meida "on demand" from my PC on my TV (using the PS3) is great, but I still like buying discs from the get-go.

I agree. I also think that the Blu-ray people need to come up with a system to allow us to transfer full 1080P lossless audio digital copies to our home network to allow streaming from the PS3 or other compatible devices.


Give us a "coverflow" type of app that will allow us to to display our entire movie collection on the big screen, complete with cover art and movie descriptions. IMO, that is where the real appeal in digital downloads lies; having your catalogue digitally accessible. If Blu-ray offers us that now.... they can head off the popularity of digital downloads before the infrastructre reaches a place where digital downloads and streaming can rival blu-ray quality.

I will gladly contine to buy the discs if I am given a conevenient and legal way to access my content digitally, but if a system like this never comes to fruition.... I WILL be switcing to downloads or streaming the very instant it becomes a viable competitor quality wise.

[PH3AR]

i dont think we have the technology for this for at least a couple of years, but a cool concept!

[Dirk504]

Originally Posted by toefer

All 4 or 5 of those people? Chances are if you don't want the internet at your house, you probably don't play many games. If you buy tons of $60 games, paying $50 a month for the internet probably isn't unreasonable.

You have to think outside of the box. Not everyone has or wants the internet. If you come to my old neighborhood, hardly anyone has the internet. It is possible to own a XBox and not a laptop. Hell, I didn't even have the internet until my friends started playing online, I just used the cpu at work. And you can't compare "choosing" to buy a $60 game to "having" to pay a $50/month bill. So since I bought my cousin a 360 for Christmas, he should make his parents buy a cpu so he can play online. There are cpu's at his school library.

[Bigdog]

This is going to severly hurt pc hardware sales, if the service can do what it claims and run everything server side meaning a 500 dollar pc can run todays newest games full tilt it will make a dent eventually in the gaming market.

[toef]

Originally Posted by Dirk504

You have to think outside of the box. Not everyone has or wants the internet. If you come to my old neighborhood, hardly anyone has the internet. It is possible to own a XBox and not a laptop. Hell, I didn't even have the internet until my friends started playing online, I just used the cpu at work. And you can't compare "choosing" to buy a $60 game to "having" to pay a $50/month bill. So since I bought my cousin a 360 for Christmas, he should make his parents buy a cpu so he can play online. There are cpu's at his school library.

But what you're talking about is a small minority of people.

The main reason people don't have the internet is probably because of the cost (or the benefits don't outweigh the costs).

So if cost is the issue, what sane person would spend $300 on an Xbox, and $60 per game, if they can get a cheap computer with internet access and a subscription to OnLive, and have access to every Xbox game?

If you buy 1-2 games per year, then maybe OnLive wouldn't save you money. But if you play 1-2 games per year, you probably wasted money on the Xbox in the first place.