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Old 04-19-2009, 02:07 AM   #1
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This is a recent movie that would benefit a lot from a lossless track. When do you think they will do a proper release for this one?
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ITS AN early release from WB, they are getting better now
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Because it's an abortion of a movie, and they didn't want take the time.
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Because it's an abortion of a movie, and they didn't want take the time.
It is but Rosario Dawson...
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Because it's an abortion of a movie, and they didn't want take the time.
That is an absolutely false statement. Alexander ranks among some of the most underrated and misunderstood films in recent history. It was a strong effort by all invovled and a damn fine film. The Blu-ray was extremely well done as well. I'm proud to have this title in my Blu-ray library.
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This is a recent movie that would benefit a lot from a lossless track. When do you think they will do a proper release for this one?
WB had a losy record for releasing titles with DD only. That and the fact that the movie is super long, HD DVD's 30G would probably not hold the film with lossless.
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Old 04-19-2009, 04:10 AM   #7
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WB had a losy record for releasing titles with DD only. That and the fact that the movie is super long, HD DVD's 30G would probably not hold the film with lossless.
Indeed... HD-DVD to BD port. Thankfully those days are over. Maybe one day we will get a new transfer.

The movie is not quite as bad as some paint it, but it is a very uneven piece of work.
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Indeed... HD-DVD to BD port. Thankfully those days are over. Maybe one day we will get a new transfer.

The movie is not quite as bad as some paint it, but it is a very uneven piece of work.
This movie doesn't need a new transfer. The PQ is simply breathtaking. I cannot imagine Alexander looking better on BD.
In the other hand the AQ could be improved. However the DD track sounds really good considering its limitations.

Alexander have been critically maligned and IMO highly underrated. It's far from being a masterpiece but it's not nearly as bad as some people suggest.
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This movie doesn't need a new transfer. The PQ is simply breathtaking. I cannot imagine Alexander looking better on BD.
In the other hand the AQ could be improved. However the DD track sounds really good considering its limitations.

Alexander have been critically maligned and IMO highly underrated. It's far from being a masterpiece but it's not nearly as bad as some people suggest.
That's what I mean... It was a HD-DVD port. Had it been a proper BD optimized transfer (like the reference "How the west was won" of a similar length) it could have been so much better and not stuck over 2 discs.

So yes... I can imagine it being better.
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That's what I mean... It was a HD-DVD port. Had it been a proper BD optimized transfer (like the reference "How the west was won" of a similar length) it could have been so much better and not stuck over 2 discs.

So yes... I can imagine it being better.
The PQ hardly could be improved on this format. Not only in this site but everywhere Alexander's PQ have received the highest ratings.
Bluray.com 4.5/5
High-def Digest 5/5
DVD Beaver 9/10

The AQ is another story, yes it could be improved. However the DD track is not bad at all. It sounds really good.

BTW The movie have been splitted in 2 discs BECAUSE Oliver Stone wanted this movie to be presented in that way! Haven't you watched the BD?
If my memory serves me well Oliver Stone explains it in the very introduction!

He [Oliver Stone] explains his inclusion of an intermission (and the subsequent division of the film onto two discs) on the Revisited cut as a throwback to the golden age of cinema. Format loyalists who have posted rants about this specific topic can lower their knives -- 'Alexander Revisited' is being presented on multiple discs simply because Oliver Stone wanted it that way.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/243/...revisited.html

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That's what I mean... It was a HD-DVD port. Had it been a proper BD optimized transfer (like the reference "How the west was won" of a similar length) it could have been so much better and not stuck over 2 discs.

So yes... I can imagine it being better.
The version I have, is a ONE disc version.
I even didn't know that there was a two-disc version.
Maybe it is only here in Europe as a one-disc version.

The movie is 3 hours 13 minutes long with DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 sound.
I think it is a great movie.

Can someone point out where (when) the movie should be split?
If it was Oliver Stone's idea to split the movie, who am i to not watch it like that.

Reminds me of the movie Cleopatra (the one with Liz Taylor), which had a real "Intermission" (and Overture btw)

Just my 2 €-cents
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This is a recent movie that would benefit a lot from a lossless track. When do you think they will do a proper release for this one?
The will probably re-release it eventually, but it probably won't be anytime soon.
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WB released many of their early blu-rays with a Dolby track. The Departed is another one that makes me angry. Alexander Revisited is a fine film. A lot of people knocked it but Stone really put a lot of his soul into the movie. Revisited is the cut you want to see. It looks great on blu. The reason for the 2 disk set is because Oliver is a bit of a movie buff...he enjoyed seeing movies as a child and films like Ben-Hur had an intermission. So after 2 hours of seeing Alexander, you need a little break to take in what you just saw. Pop in the next disk and you're off. I don't mind it at all and I think it's a very underrated film. Not to mention it comes with a nice array of bonus features to boot.
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