PCM lossless vs. DD/DTS TRUE HD Lossless

[THE STUD]

Hey for you guys who have experience with these two formats, give me ur input as to which one sounds better.
AS u may have noticed the new sony bdps300 doesn't have TRUE HD (decoding so I'm wondering if I can be satisfied with the pcm which is on most of the movies I want.
just tell me which one u guys think sounds better

[miked924]

pcm of course since it's uncompressed

[myst420]

The definition of lossless is the input and output match bit for bit. There would be zero diffrence in the three.

[Canada]

2 question how do you get uncompressed codecs to your tuner if it does not have HDMI. I think you can get uncommpressed at least 2 ways HDMI, of course and 6 analog cables.

Do all lossless codecs sound the same? If there all a bit for bit audio transfers they should theoretically all sound all sound identical? They should?

[THE STUD]

Originally Posted by Canada

2 question how do you get uncompressed codecs to your tuner if it does not have HDMI. I think you can get uncommpressed at least 2 ways HDMI, of course and 6 analog cables.

Do all lossless codecs sound the same? If there all a bit for bit audio transfers they should theoretically all sound all sound identical? They should?

yeah u can get pcm from the analog inputs which is what I'm gonna do when i get one,
still waiting to hear from people who actually have heard both and would know

[teemacone]

I have run both hdmi and six channel analog from my sony bdps-1; and I prefer the six channel analog sound. It definitely sounds more rich and ambient. Especially sounds good with PCM audio.

[Jim L]

Originally Posted by teemacone

I have run both hdmi and six channel analog from my sony bdps-1; and I prefer the six channel analog sound. It definitely sounds more rich and ambient. Especially sounds good with PCM audio.

Q#1: In teemacone's case, doesn't this depend on the quality of the audio decoder and d/a converters inside the BDP-S1 versus those in your particular receiver?

I have the BDP-S1 too. Although I don't know the internals of this unit, I can tell you that the LPCM through the analog outs to my Denon 3805 receiver is mind-blowing. I was in sheer awe during both of the Pirates movies.

I can't say anything about the HDMI audio out though, since I don't have this capability with my receiver.

Q#2: Does the BDP-S1 output the LPCM (and in the future DD+ and D-THD) through HDMI and the analog outs?

[Zinn]

Originally Posted by Jim L

Q#1: In teemacone's case, doesn't this depend on the quality of the audio decoder and d/a converters inside the BDP-S1 versus those in your particular receiver?

I have the BDP-S1 too. Although I don't know the internals of this unit, I can tell you that the LPCM through the analog outs to my Denon 3805 receiver is mind-blowing. I was in sheer awe during both of the Pirates movies.

I can't say anything about the HDMI audio out though, since I don't have this capability with my receiver.

A1: Yes, It depends on the D/A converter.

Originally Posted by Jim L

Q#2: Does the BDP-S1 output the LPCM (and in the future DD+ and D-THD) through HDMI and the analog outs?

A2: Yes, it will.

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One can also se DTS-HD M.A. and Dolby TrueHD as a .zip/.rar of the uncompressed PCM track.

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by myst420

The definition of lossless is the input and output match bit for bit. There would be zero diffrence in the three.

That's how it's suppose to be, but I can notice a difference in favor of LPCM. That means onw is not lossless. I have a thread on this already in the Home Theater discussion section.