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Old 05-06-2009, 10:32 AM   #1
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I dont know if this has been brought up on the forums before but I just wanted to see what people thought about what could be next for the home entertainment. Like im sure the PQ could get better but wow thats crazy to think about some movies like Dark Knight and Curious Case Of Benjamin Button among others being better in PQ.. well just wondering if anyone has thoughts on this...
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:38 AM   #2
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I'm sure that there are hundreds of other threads debating the same issue.

Regardless, I think the studios seem to be pushing for a 3-D format a lot lately. More movies have been released in 3-D (like "The Polar Express," or "Journey to the Center of the Earth"), and more movies are coming out with supposedly ground-breaking 3-D (like "Avatar"). In time, they may develop some kind of advanced 3-D home theater set-up of some kind. I'm sure somebody else who knows more will elaborate.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:43 AM   #3
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:47 AM   #4
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Its perfectly feasible to keep ramping up the resolution of films, however it would result in diminishing returns as people would have to sit closer and closer to notice the difference. So as the cost of new higher resolution screens and media to store these films increases, the appreciable increase in quality decreases.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:49 AM   #5
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I'm sure the next thing (along with 3D) will be lossless video. Everybody raves about lossless audio, imagine what it will be like when we can say the same for video. Well apart from those that have a problem with grain, because the better quality video we get the more grain would be noticable I would assume. All I can say to those is film=grain, so get over it Though I'm sure lossless video is a long way off because of the storage and bandwidth we would need. 500gb Blu-ray? Not enough room!

As for 3D, until somebody comes up with a way to make things 3D without me having to buy a fancy (i.e. expensive) TV or wear stupid red/blue glasses I'm not that interested.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:55 AM   #6
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Sure is has been brought up before. My take on the subject is this:

There is huge trend in many societies towards HD, especially broadcast HD. The trend is there, but it is moving rather slowly. In broadcast, 720p, 1080i and maybe 1080p are the resolutions that are here to stay and probably for a long time. Probably for decades like NSTC/PAL etc. before. Going beyond these resolutions in the consumer world provides only minimal improvements for a small group of people (with huge setups, mostly enthusiasts). This is why i think these (broadcast) resolutions won't be increased for a long time.

Further increasing resolution would therefore cater only to a small market. People would need to buy new displays that can handle the higher resolutions and it would only be for the "Super-Blu-ray". (Except if we get a situation like digital cameras with a hype about huge pixel counts). With the imo very limited potential size of the market, i don't think there will be any massmarket Super-Blu-ray with prerecorded content e.g. in 4k resolution for a long time. There might be a small niche for such a format though.

The way 1080p or HD in general is distributed will probably diversify more in the future. Though the whole Digital Distribution thing is huge mess atm and i don't see any clear vision how it will be in let's say 5 years.

All only imo.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:58 AM   #7
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If you keep bumping the resolution up; movies like Sin City, Cloverfield, and numerous other films are going to look like crap. Personally, I'm sticking with Blu-Ray after it completely dies off and studios stop making them. I was originally going to stay with DVD but after my fiancee's family got a player, I went out and got my external drive for my laptop.
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Old 05-06-2009, 02:24 PM   #8
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Many movies look better on BD than on film, and most of them look as good as they will ever look at home.

I'm not rebuying anything after this. This is the last chance the studios will have to repackage catalog titles. After that, only distribution will change; quality is getting to the point where, for screens under 100", it really can't improve all that much.
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Old 05-06-2009, 03:29 PM   #9
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First of all, I love Japan for doing this.

That said, there is sufficient debate about 1080p with even 50" TVs (dependent on viewing distance of course). So to go beyond 4K probably won't help anyone who doesn't have a projector (or ginormous wall-sized OLED of the future). Not to mention that modern cameras resolve to approx 4k.

I think that the next major bandwidth requirement will come from 3D sooner than it will from super high res.

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Old 05-06-2009, 08:44 PM   #10
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I think the next big push from Hollywood will involve 3-D movies. Blu-ray is already very close to the point where human vision starts meeting diminished returns from increased resolution.
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:53 PM   #11
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Perhaps a combination of larger screen size (100-150 inch "wall-screen") with higher resolution discs and players to match up with the larger screens.

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Old 05-06-2009, 09:27 PM   #12
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I'd say 3D will be heavily marketed on the horizon. I'll probably get into it, but as far as conventional movies/media go, I'll be done after blu-ray. Sure, they may uncompress the video and increase the resolution, but I don't ever foresee myself having a TV bigger than 55"... I don't want to sit more than 20' feet away from a screen in the comfort of my own home, thus a increase in resolution probably won't influence me to adopt another format.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:08 PM   #14
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Smell-O-Vision!!!!!!




Scenes like this would be unbearable!

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Old 05-06-2009, 10:18 PM   #15
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there will be nothing after blu-ray, because the world will end in 2012

spread the word, tell your loved ones lol
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:27 PM   #16
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I think at least HD will stay a while. Of course you could make the resolution bigger and bigger, but at a certain point it's just redundant. Either you'd have to have a giant screen (which a lot of people won't buy) or go sit up close. 4K is sufficient for film as well, so I don't see the reason for it being higher, apart from the very rare IMAX film or 70mm film or something.
Of course there could be a new Blu-Ray format, that has better specifications but stays at 1920x1080.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:48 PM   #17
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I think we're at the end of the road for the physical format. Blu-ray is going to dominate the market for a very very very long time. It's about to be crowned king. And the best part about this is that people are always going to want a physical format. That means Blu-ray isn't going anywhere my friends.
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Old 05-06-2009, 11:28 PM   #18
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I think the future of blu-ray will be blu-ray. Considering there will be a higher capacity it could handle more and more resolutions, even with the advent of h.265
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Its perfectly feasible to keep ramping up the resolution of films, however it would result in diminishing returns as people would have to sit closer and closer to notice the difference. So as the cost of new higher resolution screens and media to store these films increases, the appreciable increase in quality decreases.
yeah and with people not being able to see the stark contrast between blu-ray and dvd/hd channels then I would doubt they could do much better in 10 years making a WOW we must get that.


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there will be nothing after blu-ray, because the world will end in 2012

spread the word, tell your loved ones lol
I hope not that means we wouldn't get another jaws movie
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