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Old 09-23-2009, 09:32 PM   #1
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Hello, Hope all is well. I have a question about the crossover settings on my system. Here is what i have; BOSE 201 V (fronts), VCS-10 (center), and Bose double cubes for rear surround. My receiver is Yamaha RX-V663 and my woofer is Yamaha YST-315 . Here's the thing; I used the little microphone to set my speakers and it set my crossover in the receiver to 200Hz. Is this good? How should i set my crossover on the subwoofer and in the receiver? My subwoofer can be set up to 140Hz. The receiver goes up to 200Hz. Thanks in advance
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That would be correct, for the most part. Bose cube speakers actually cut off around 250hz so 200hz is a little low since the speakers probably will not be able to go that low. With your speaker and subwoofer setup, you will likely have a 100hz or more audio gap in frequency response. The center channel is similar to the Bose cubes so dialog may not sound natural or right. The fronts may be able to play down a bit lower than your cubes; perhaps 120hz or so.

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Old 09-23-2009, 09:47 PM   #3
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Thanks for the response, So basically i just need to ditch the BOSE. Im slowly moving to a full Yamaha setup, but in the meanwhile, any ideas on how i should set the crossovers?
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Oh, sorry about the subject line. I went in the Kitchen and my little one decided to add her own subject and send it for me.
LOL. It's funny, but honestly you may want to PM a moderator and ask them to change it for you. I can relate- my daughter's done something like that before.
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Thanks for the response, So basically i just need to ditch the BOSE. Im slowly moving to a full Yamaha setup, but in the meanwhile, any ideas on how i should set the crossovers?
I'm sure plenty of people here will back you on the decision to ditch the Bose altogether. In the meantime, your current settings are probably about the best you'll be able to get. As you continue to upgrade your speakers, keep in mind that you can do MUCH better than Yamaha when it comes to speakers. They make great receivers. Speakers, not so much.
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Thanks. I guess I got some serious researching to do before i start making purchases. So, are you saying just leave the crossover setting at 200Hz in the receiver. What about the sub, should i set it all the way to 140 or turn it down? Thanks again
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Old 09-23-2009, 10:07 PM   #8
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Got it, damn....you guys respond pretty fast. Thanks again to all
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Thanks for the response, So basically i just need to ditch the BOSE. Im slowly moving to a full Yamaha setup, but in the meanwhile, any ideas on how i should set the crossovers?
Unfortunately, without the Acoustimass module, you will have quite a frequency gap with your Bose speakers with your current setup. As for the crossovers, I'd leave the rears at around 200hz, the center at around 100hz if possible, and maybe around 120 for your fronts. The subwoofer should be set to as high as it goes for its' crossovers in order to avoid such large frequency gaps. If you plan on going for another home theater setup, please audition as many speakers as you possibly can. Start with speakers you could never afford and work your way down to speakers you can afford or can save for. Start with your main speakers. Later, move to (a) more powerful subwoofer(s). Then, go for a matching center channel or an identical front speaker for the best sound stage. Later on, get your surround speakers. If your room and budget allows, back surrounds would also be something to look for. It is better to do it right the first time and not have to keep upgrading. Start small and work your way up. You made a smart choice with your receiver too. When you have made your speaker purchases, you can use your current receiver as a pre-pro and use an external amplifier for your speakers. By the way, please purchase your cables at Monoprice.com and do your wallet a favor.
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To avoid any possible negative comments, I will direct you to this website for a bit more information about the limitations of the smaller Bose speakers.
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Hello, Hope all is well. I have a question about the crossover settings on my system. Here is what i have; BOSE 201 V (fronts), VCS-10 (center), and Bose double cubes for rear surround. My receiver is Yamaha RX-V663 and my woofer is Yamaha YST-315 . Here's the thing; I used the little microphone to set my speakers and it set my crossover in the receiver to 200Hz. Is this good? How should i set my crossover on the subwoofer and in the receiver? My subwoofer can be set up to 140Hz. The receiver goes up to 200Hz. Thanks in advance
On your subwoofer, if you can't disable the crossover, set it as high as you can (accoring to your post 140 Hz).

The Yamaha RX-V663 has one global crossover setting for all speaker set to small (and all your speakers should be set to small). Therefore you should set the crossover to above the speaker with the highest low frequency limit (by highest I mean if a speaker has a range of 40-20,000 Hz ±3dB and another has 120-20,000 Hz ±3 dB then you would have to set your crossover to at least 120 Hz but more probably to 130 Hz). Now the problem is that Bose don't publish their frequency range therefore you should probably stick to what the YPAO setup determined.

As a final note, 200 Hz as a crossover is not the best since at that frequency the sound become localized. Also your sub as a highpass of 140 Hz meaning there will most likely a gap between 140 and 200 Hz. Fortunately, the crossovers are gradual so you won't loose everything.
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