Captain America: The First Avenger Review Thread (Spoilers)

[GreenScar]

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Official Site

Trailer (Coming Soon)

Synopsis:

Based on the Marvel Comics character from World War II. A brave, yet mild-mannered young soldier named Steve Rogers, volunteers to undergo a series of experiments for a US army Super Soldier program. The military succeeds in transforming him into a human weapon, but quickly decide that their Super Soldier is far too expensive a creation to risk in combat. So, they decide to put him to use as an army celebrity and parade him across Europe to boost morale by performing in USO shows for American troops. He is even given a costume that bear the colors of Old Glory for the stage. Then, when a Nazi plot reveals itself Rogers must rise up and and become the First Avenger, in order to save his country. Steve Rogers becomes Captain America and he earns his way into the hearts and souls of every American, bringing hope and justice to a war-weary nation. Later, during a mission to Germany to stop his archenemy - The Red Skull, from launching rockets at the allies, Captain America sacrifices himself and winds up frozen in ice for almost six decades! Revived, Steve Rogers now must join forces with new heroes and become an Avenger of the modern age.

UPDATES:

Captain America’s Costume/Shield Evolves Over The Course of the Movie

Chris Evans revealed at Comic-Con that his costume in Captain America: The First Avenger evolves over the course of the film, and that we don’t really see his final suit until the end of the movie.

Evans said the following to MTV:

Evans says that Captain’s shield will also evolve over the course of the film:

Many fans seem to be worried about the suit, coming out of the leaked marketing artwork and Comic-Con teaser trailer (not available online). But comic book fans often over-think/overreact abut the wardrobe of a comic book adaptations. I remember when the first images of the X-Men were released online and the fanboys went rabid. At the end of the day, most fans loved what Bryan Singer did with the X-Men movies.

[ZedsDead]

Thanks for the info OP, looking forward to hear/see more about this.

[anomynous]

Regarding the Human Torch thing; why doesn't Marvel just buy back the rights for Fantastic 4, or even all of the properties they've sold off? It would cost a lot, but then they wouldn't have to worry about rights and quite frankly, they'd be way better movies. They could also be way more accurate to the comics...


Just wishful thinking though, and Captain America sounds good so far.

[GreenScar]

More of the same from another site:

After unveiling some dazzling new Iron Man 2 footage at Comic-Con Saturday afternoon, Marvel Studios exec Kevin Feige took time to update us on another high-profile project in his company’s ambitious pipeline, The First Avenger: Captain America.

On the film’s storyline and how it might be shaped to appeal to an international audience:

“Captain America is really the story of Steve Rogers, like Peter Parker, like Bruce Banner, like Tony Stark. By the way, Tony Stark is about as jingoistic a guy there is. He’s always talking about America, what’s right for America, making weapons to go to war with the rest of the world with and [Iron Man] did extremely well overseas because his story was engaging. This movie is Steve Rogers’ origin story, and I think it is our burden to make Steve Rogers as appealing as any of our other characters ... he’s not just the perfect boy scout who follows order every time. He has ideals he wants to live up to.”

On the decision to set the movie in World War II and the possibility of an appearance by the 1940s-era supergroup the Invaders:

“Also, setting it in World War II — the Marvel version of World War II — I think is gonna open it up in another big way ... What’s funny is it will actually end up being, I think, our most diverse and our most international film, in terms of the content of the movies itself. It takes place overseas much more than any of our other films do. In terms of the cast, there’s a group that Steve works with that will have an opportunity for many more international actors than any of our other films.”

On potential villains:

“We are gonna explore those aspects of World War II that made Cap special: the Super Soldier program, Red Skull, Hydra, all of those things that exist in the Marvel version of it. As you know if you read the comic books, the origin of Captain America is really the origin of the Marvel universe ... it’s about that time in history when the idea of the superhero began to emerge.”

Feige, who was wearing a Marvel hat in case anyone forgot where he works, indicated that they're “about halfway though” developing the script, with a target date of June 2010 for the start of production. As far as casting is concerned, don’t expect any major announcements until October, when director Joe Johnston (The Wolf Man, Hidalgo) joins the production full-time.

Can a period-based comic book flick succeed in a genre dominated by glossy, futuristic films? And is The First Avenger: Captain America the latest example of franchise-obsessed Hollywood's disturbing trend towards comic book flicks with annoyingly cumbersome titles? We'll just have to wait and see, true believers.

[EricJ]

Can a period-based comic book flick succeed in a genre dominated by glossy, futuristic films?

The period's no problem, it's just that we DON'T CARE what Steve Rogers did during the war--His Marvel story "officially" started with the 60's:
He got the serum, the Red Skull showed up, he was frozen and thawed out by the Avengers (which is where this movie will likely end, or before), that's all we need to know for the character we know..

My complaint is that Marvel is making their movies too encyclopedic just to explain canon or tie up loose ends from other major-hero titles. And while that might be nice for the loyal-true-believer aspect, it's making the movies too disposable--
Admit it, now that we've had two months to think about it, doesn't "X-Men: Wolverine" start to feel like a pointless waste of time, just because Fox and Marvel were anal enough to de-memo a few unused character designs and tie together a couple of X2 refs?

I could see a direct-video spinoff for Cap's war years to warm us up, not unike the Watchmen "Black Freighter"--But c'mon, Marvel, YOU know we're waiting for the team movie, and WE know we're waiting for the team movie; try to develop a little bit of perspective about all the "preliminaries".
And that goes for Edgar Wright's "Ant-Man" movie too.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by EricJ

The period's no problem, it's just that we DON'T CARE what Steve Rogers did during the war--His Marvel story "officially" started with the 60's:

Who is this 'we' that you refer to.

Surely you don't mean, 'we' as in the fans of Captain America, because some do care, others don't.

Me? I wouldn't mind seeing a Captain America origin story, seeing as how the other characters are getting their origins told, I wouldn't mind Cap getting the same treatment.

He got the serum, the Red Skull showed up, he was frozen and thawed out by the Avengers (which is where this movie will likely end, or before), that's all we need to know for the character we know..

Which is likely going to be shown in the movie.

My complaint is that Marvel is making their movies too encyclopedic just to explain canon or tie up loose ends from other major-hero titles. And while that might be nice for the loyal-true-believer aspect, it's making the movies too disposable--
Admit it, now that we've had two months to think about it, doesn't "X-Men: Wolverine" start to feel like a pointless waste of time, just because Fox and Marvel were anal enough to de-memo a few unused character designs and tie together a couple of X2 refs?

Fox did Wolverine all by themselves, apparently Marvel didn't have much to do with it.

I could see a direct-video spinoff for Cap's war years to warm us up, not unike the Watchmen "Black Freighter"--But c'mon, Marvel, YOU know we're waiting for the team movie, and WE know we're waiting for the team movie; try to develop a little bit of perspective about all the "preliminaries".
And that goes for Edgar Wright's "Ant-Man" movie too.

Everyone gets an origin story leading up to the HUGE team movie so they don't have to waste the first hour explaining all of the characters.

Makes sense to me, I'm wondering why people don't get it.

Logan

[GreenScar]

One more source on Feige's comments after the IM2 panel about Cap:

After unveiling some dazzling new Iron Man 2 footage at Comic-Con Saturday afternoon, Marvel Studios exec Kevin Feige took time to update us on another high-profile project in his company’s ambitious pipeline, The First Avenger: Captain America.

On the film’s storyline and how it might be shaped to appeal to an international audience:

“Captain America is really the story of Steve Rogers, like Peter Parker, like Bruce Banner, like Tony Stark. By the way, Tony Stark is about as jingoistic a guy there is. He’s always talking about America, what’s right for America, making weapons to go to war with the rest of the world with and [Iron Man] did extremely well overseas because his story was engaging. This movie is Steve Rogers’ origin story, and I think it is our burden to make Steve Rogers as appealing as any of our other characters ... he’s not just the perfect boy scout who follows order every time. He has ideals he wants to live up to.”

On the decision to set the movie in World War II and the possibility of an appearance by the 1940s-era supergroup the Invaders:

“Also, setting it in World War II — the Marvel version of World War II — I think is gonna open it up in another big way ... What’s funny is it will actually end up being, I think, our most diverse and our most international film, in terms of the content of the movies itself. It takes place overseas much more than any of our other films do. In terms of the cast, there’s a group that Steve works with that will have an opportunity for many more international actors than any of our other films.”

On potential villains:

“We are gonna explore those aspects of World War II that made Cap special: the Super Soldier program, Red Skull, Hydra, all of those things that exist in the Marvel version of it. As you know if you read the comic books, the origin of Captain America is really the origin of the Marvel universe ... it’s about that time in history when the idea of the superhero began to emerge.”

Feige, who was wearing a Marvel hat in case anyone forgot where he works, indicated that they're “about halfway though” developing the script, with a target date of June 2010 for the start of production. As far as casting is concerned, don’t expect any major announcements until October, when director Joe Johnston (The Wolf Man, Hidalgo) joins the production full-time.

Can a period-based comic book flick succeed in a genre dominated by glossy, futuristic films? And is The First Avenger: Captain America the latest example of franchise-obsessed Hollywood's disturbing trend towards comic book flicks with annoyingly cumbersome titles? We'll just have to wait and see, true believers.

Nice! This means the movie is progressing and we should know who is cast as Captain America soon.

[Diesel]

I can't believe this movie is still about 3 years away

[vegeta88]

Originally Posted by Diesel

I can't believe this movie is still about 3 years away

I can't believe how hyped I am for a movie 3 years away.
I'm kind of new at being in the loop for these films; I started when the Spider-Man 3 trailer came out about a year before the film and now this. I guess this is what we get for being nosey

[koontz1973]

Originally Posted by vegeta88

I guess this is what we get for being nosey

A fine line with being nosey. To little and you may lose interest, to much and you may destroy your ability to enjoy the film.

[PS3-Playb3yond]

Ofcourse he is super human. Anyone who takes a punch from the Hulk and survive is a super human lol.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by PS3-Playb3yond

Ofcourse he is super human. Anyone who takes a punch from the Hulk and survive is a super human lol.

Now there's evidence I think we can all get behind.

Logan

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by PS3-Playb3yond

Ofcourse he is super human. Anyone who takes a punch from the Hulk and survive is a super human lol.

I checked a few of the comics where they met (on opposite sides) and I did not see anyplace where he got a punch which needed super healing (or what ever you are implying) can you tell me what particular issue/scene you are thinking about?

[jlaavenger]

My only question is will Captain America have the classic look he sported in the first Captain America movie? Will he have the wings on his mask. I really hope so. For me the skull cap without the wings just doesn't look right.

[GreenScar]

We may not even see him in the Red White and Blue until either the end of the movie or the Avengers since this movie takes place in WWII they just may have him dressed as a soldier

[Darkhawk9587]

Originally Posted by GreenScar

We may not even see him in the Red White and Blue until either the end of the movie or the Avengers since this movie takes place in WWII they just may have him dressed as a soldier

This wouldn't make much sense. He worethe Red, White, and Blue in the comics during htis time. I sure hope they do have him wearing it. Also, isn't he supposed to be fighting alongside other superheroes in the film?

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Darkhawk9587

This wouldn't make much sense. He worethe Red, White, and Blue in the comics during htis time. I sure hope they do have him wearing it. Also, isn't he supposed to be fighting alongside other superheroes in the film?

agree, though he did start off as a "normal military man"

[Meeklo]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

agree, though he did start off as a "normal military man"

No, he started as a skinny little kid who was rejected by the military because he was a skinny little kid. He then volunteered for "Project: Rebirth" which gave him the super soldier serum and he became a "government" sponsered superhero. He never really did "belong" to the military.

[Diesel]

Do you guys think the suit will be the typical spandex or do you think they will go the Batman route and make it more armor like?

I think the armor like one would make for a cooler live-action suit.

Of course I tend to think the "no spandex" way for all superhero movies.

[koontz1973]

Originally Posted by Diesel

Of course I tend to think the "no spandex" way for all superhero movies.

Spandex should only be allowed on female superheroes.
Tighter the better,