Extended cuts vs. theatrical cuts - Blu-ray Forum

rbd3000 · 03-12-2008, 08:11 PM

With the official announcement of Narnia confirming that it will be the theatrical cut and not the extended cut, I was just wondering what you all thought about this. I personally prefer the extended cuts of most movies that have one and I don't think I would buy the theatrical cuts on Blu-ray if I had the extended cut on DVD. I am referring especially to Lord of the Rings and King Kong. So I quess my question is would you still buy a Blu-ray theatrical cut even if you would never watch it because you have and watch the extended cut on DVD?

Memnoch71 · 03-12-2008, 08:16 PM

I don't think I'll be picking this one up untill the Extended Cut comes out on Blu. I just don't like the good old Double Dipp!

statikcat · 03-12-2008, 08:16 PM

Typically, I can wait.

bajor27 · 03-12-2008, 08:18 PM

depending on the movie, but I often enjoy entended cuts more and thus, I wait and don't buy anthing until I can get what I want on Blu.

ClaytonMG · 03-12-2008, 08:20 PM

Generally I don't like the extended cuts. I loves me my film scores! And what happens in these extended cuts is they suffer. A bunch of extended cuts feature pointless scenes added in upsetting the flow of the film and destroying the score by having it repeat and having bad cuts with it.

Having said that, there's certain extended cuts I think are nessisary. Kingdom of Heaven is fantastic, the theatrical cut with is shorter actually felt longer because you have a hard time caring about what's going on and have a hard time following the story.

Lord of the Rings trilogy also is nessiary. The way the extended cuts are done are flawless. They wrote new music for the scenes and they blend in very well.

ManUtd · 03-12-2008, 08:22 PM

I prefer extended cuts and if it is announced to be released I will wait for that version.

Ferris · 03-12-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

Generally I don't like the extended cuts. I loves me my film scores! And what happens in these extended cuts is they suffer. A bunch of extended cuts feature pointless scenes added in upsetting the flow of the film and destroying the score by having it repeat and having bad cuts with it.

Having said that, there's certain extended cuts I think are nessisary. Kingdom of Heaven is fantastic, the theatrical cut with is shorter actually felt longer because you have a hard time caring about what's going on and have a hard time following the story.

Lord of the Rings trilogy also is nessiary. The way the extended cuts are done are flawless. They wrote new music for the scenes and they blend in very well.

You know, I've heard of this happening (repeating score excerpts) with some extended cuts, but have never experienced it. I just haven't seen too many extended cuts. LOTR is one I've seen, but as you've pointed out, Jackson had Shore compose and conduct more original score for the film, so I couldn't notice a problem that didn't exist there,

I'll watch whatever version is put out when I'm ready to buy it, and won't double-dip.

DetroitSportsFan · 03-12-2008, 09:30 PM

There's no reason why Narnia can't also have the extended cut via seamless branching. Unless I can get it cheap, I'll pass on this one.

Canada · 03-15-2008, 04:50 AM

I like extended/Directors cuts of film personally but that's only my opinion.
The best Directors cuts in off the top of my head are Aliens and Das Boot that extra 17 min in Aliens really adds emotional weight.

Blu Titan · 03-12-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Memnoch71

I don't think I'll be picking this one up untill the Extended Cut comes out on Blu. I just don't like the good old Double Dipp!

The Patriot Extended Edition was very good.

lnh_boy · 03-12-2008, 08:23 PM

It depends on what is being put in to the movie. Some extended cuts simple put deleted material into the theatrical cut for no rhyme or reason.

1Fish2FishRedFishBlu · 03-12-2008, 08:25 PM

I personally like the extended cuts which typically are the directors vision they originally intended but were forced to remove for length or to obtain a friendlier MPAA rating.

I really dislike when only the theatrical version is released when there is a know longer/extended version already available and the studio is bilking the public hoping to cash in on multiple releases.

CheapChildren · 03-12-2008, 08:29 PM

Extended cuts are always lame. I don't understand why anyone would want an extended cut. Why would you want footage that was deemed not good enough for a theatrical release to be crammed in?

And I disagree with the notion that most extended cuts are the director's intended version. That would be a director's cut which is different. Extended cuts are almost always just a way to make it seem like you're getting more. Because people tend to falsely think more is better. It's just a marketing gimmick.

UTVOL06 · 03-12-2008, 08:39 PM

I prefer extended cuts sometimes, but I no longer buy or watch dvds unless I'm at someone else's house with a regular dvd player.

I've been spoiled by Blu-ray quality and there is no going back.

JTStarkiller · 03-12-2008, 08:40 PM

Depends on the movie. Plain and simple.

sean10mm · 03-12-2008, 08:50 PM

Depends on the movie, and if it's a real Director's Cut like Kingdom of Heaven or if it's just a cash-in gimmick.

overdrive00 · 03-12-2008, 08:51 PM

You know, my whole gripe is how some of the blu-rays (Troy) doesn't give you both options. I remember a lot of DVD's used to have both on the same disc, or have both on the shelf. There are some movies, where the theatrical version is actually better and I don't want the director's cut. Or, maybe I watch the director cut and decide I like the theatrical version so the next time I watch the regular one. With a lot of these movies, you are stuck because it only has the extended version.

DetroitSportsFan · 03-12-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rbd3000

I personally prefer the extended cuts of most movies that have one and I don't think I would buy the theatrical cuts on Blu-ray if I had the extended cut on DVD. I am referring especially to Lord of the Rings and King Kong.

Also don't forget Terminator 2.

This is why I never bought the T2 BD. If the extended cut has made it to a few different versions of the DVD, what's the problem getting it on BD.

It's a blatant double dip attempt.

LynxFX · 03-12-2008, 09:38 PM

We shouldn't have to choose since the technology for seamless branching has been available for a decade now. I usually prefer the theatrical since that is the version I watched the most. A few exceptions out there like LOTR but even that I like having both available. I guess if I didn't have a choice I would prefer to have the theatrical version available over the extended. I won't buy Payback on blu because it is the inferior director's cut which changed the entire movie drastically, and in my opinion for the worse.

Narnia felt long as it is, so I have no problem with the theatrical of this one.

un4gvn94538 · 03-12-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Also don't forget Terminator 2.

This is why I never bought the T2 BD. If the extended cut has made it to a few different versions of the DVD, what's the problem getting it on BD.

It's a blatant double dip attempt.

this was my biggest disappointment of any of my blus. i believe that with all the space and the fact that they want everyone to adopt blu, they should include everything they can thats been available on sd dvd. then they can go back and always dig up more stuff. for the 75th anniversary wooptydo set

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03-12-2008, 08:11 PM	#1
rbd3000 Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:423	Extended cuts vs. theatrical cuts With the official announcement of Narnia confirming that it will be the theatrical cut and not the extended cut, I was just wondering what you all thought about this. I personally prefer the extended cuts of most movies that have one and I don't think I would buy the theatrical cuts on Blu-ray if I had the extended cut on DVD. I am referring especially to Lord of the Rings and King Kong. So I quess my question is would you still buy a Blu-ray theatrical cut even if you would never watch it because you have and watch the extended cut on DVD?

03-12-2008, 08:29 PM	#13
CheapChildren Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Fort Worth, TX Blu-ray collection:899 Trading Score:2	Extended cuts are always lame. I don't understand why anyone would want an extended cut. Why would you want footage that was deemed not good enough for a theatrical release to be crammed in? And I disagree with the notion that most extended cuts are the director's intended version. That would be a director's cut which is different. Extended cuts are almost always just a way to make it seem like you're getting more. Because people tend to falsely think more is better. It's just a marketing gimmick. Last edited by CheapChildren; 03-12-2008 at 08:35 PM.

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03-12-2008, 08:16 PM	#2
Memnoch71 Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Somewhere between here and there 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:252	I don't think I'll be picking this one up untill the Extended Cut comes out on Blu. I just don't like the good old Double Dipp!

03-12-2008, 08:16 PM	#3
statikcat Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Washington, DC Blu-ray collection:67	Typically, I can wait.

03-12-2008, 08:18 PM	#4
bajor27 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:BC, Canada Blu-ray collection:1031 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:5	depending on the movie, but I often enjoy entended cuts more and thus, I wait and don't buy anthing until I can get what I want on Blu.

03-12-2008, 08:20 PM	#5
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:842 Blu-ray collection:2381 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Generally I don't like the extended cuts. I loves me my film scores! And what happens in these extended cuts is they suffer. A bunch of extended cuts feature pointless scenes added in upsetting the flow of the film and destroying the score by having it repeat and having bad cuts with it. Having said that, there's certain extended cuts I think are nessisary. Kingdom of Heaven is fantastic, the theatrical cut with is shorter actually felt longer because you have a hard time caring about what's going on and have a hard time following the story. Lord of the Rings trilogy also is nessiary. The way the extended cuts are done are flawless. They wrote new music for the scenes and they blend in very well.

03-12-2008, 08:22 PM	#6
ManUtd Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:In my HT Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:829 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:5	I prefer extended cuts and if it is announced to be released I will wait for that version.

03-12-2008, 09:30 PM	#8
DetroitSportsFan Hot Deals Moderator Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Michigan 4K collection:439 Blu-ray collection:2226 Trading Score:93	There's no reason why Narnia can't also have the extended cut via seamless branching. Unless I can get it cheap, I'll pass on this one.

03-15-2008, 04:50 AM	#9
Canada Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Victoria, BC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:306 Blu-ray collection:1204 DVD collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:42	I like extended/Directors cuts of film personally but that's only my opinion. The best Directors cuts in off the top of my head are Aliens and Das Boot that extra 17 min in Aliens really adds emotional weight.

03-12-2008, 08:23 PM	#11
lnh_boy Senior Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:New Hampshire 4K collection:852 Blu-ray collection:3526 DVD collection:980 Digital collection:6793 iTunes collection:8907 Trading Score:373	It depends on what is being put in to the movie. Some extended cuts simple put deleted material into the theatrical cut for no rhyme or reason.

03-12-2008, 08:25 PM	#12
1Fish2FishRedFishBlu Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:East Coast Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:321	I personally like the extended cuts which typically are the directors vision they originally intended but were forced to remove for length or to obtain a friendlier MPAA rating. I really dislike when only the theatrical version is released when there is a know longer/extended version already available and the studio is bilking the public hoping to cash in on multiple releases.

03-12-2008, 08:39 PM	#14
UTVOL06 Expert Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Georgia Home Theater Gallery:7 4K collection:245 Blu-ray collection:480 Blu-ray reviews:83	I prefer extended cuts sometimes, but I no longer buy or watch dvds unless I'm at someone else's house with a regular dvd player. I've been spoiled by Blu-ray quality and there is no going back.

03-12-2008, 08:40 PM	#15
JTStarkiller Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Austin, TX DVD collection:69 Trading Score:17	Depends on the movie. Plain and simple.

03-12-2008, 08:50 PM	#16
sean10mm Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray reviews:4	Depends on the movie, and if it's a real Director's Cut like Kingdom of Heaven or if it's just a cash-in gimmick.

03-12-2008, 08:51 PM	#17
overdrive00 Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Dallas, Texas	You know, my whole gripe is how some of the blu-rays (Troy) doesn't give you both options. I remember a lot of DVD's used to have both on the same disc, or have both on the shelf. There are some movies, where the theatrical version is actually better and I don't want the director's cut. Or, maybe I watch the director cut and decide I like the theatrical version so the next time I watch the regular one. With a lot of these movies, you are stuck because it only has the extended version.

03-12-2008, 09:38 PM	#19
LynxFX Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007	We shouldn't have to choose since the technology for seamless branching has been available for a decade now. I usually prefer the theatrical since that is the version I watched the most. A few exceptions out there like LOTR but even that I like having both available. I guess if I didn't have a choice I would prefer to have the theatrical version available over the extended. I won't buy Payback on blu because it is the inferior director's cut which changed the entire movie drastically, and in my opinion for the worse. Narnia felt long as it is, so I have no problem with the theatrical of this one.

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