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Old 07-28-2009, 01:44 PM   #1
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Dave has cost me thousands of dollars , The first BluRay Music Disc I purchased was Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds Live @RCMH ,one of the best BluRay concerts ever , I was hooked , It looked so good on my Samsung lcd TV but I know I was missing good quality sound over the tv speakers , So I purch some good quality speakers and a AVR , Oh my the sound is fantastic .Fast forward 1 Year and I am Best Buy and see the Dave and Tim on Blue Ray Playing on a Pioneer Kuro plasma TV and it looks way better than my LCD TV, So guess what , I took it home , Thanks Dave , keep it up !

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Old 07-28-2009, 03:34 PM   #2
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I have seen Dave Matthews Band 41 times since November 17th, 1998...and not just at the local venue either. Road trips, hotels, gas, tickets, tailgating expenses, but I've had some of the greatest times of my life seeing this band and meeting new friends all across Canada and USA. I met my wife at a DMB show and the majority of my closest circle of friends are all people that I've met at DMB shows.
  1. DMB 1998-11-17 Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  2. DMB 2000-07-21 Ralph Wilson Stadium, Buffalo, NY
  3. DMB 2001-06-20 Ralph Wilson Stadium, Buffalo, NY
  4. DMB 2001-08-10 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  5. DMB 2002-04-19 Air Canada Centre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  6. DMB 2002-04-20 Corel Centre, Kanata, Ontario, Canada
  7. DMB 2002-12-16 Blue Cross Arena, Rochester, NY
  8. DMB 2003-09-02 Bell Centre, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
  9. DMB 2003-09-03 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  10. DMB 2003-09-24 Great Lawn - Central Park, New York, NY
  11. DMB 2004-06-30 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  12. DMB 2004-07-02 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  13. DMB 2004-07-03 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  14. DMB 2004-07-13 Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, Darien Center, NY
  15. DMB 2004-09-12 Polo Field - Golden Gate Park , San Francisco, CA
  16. DMB 2004-10-01 Bryce Jordan Center - Penn State University, University Park, PA
  17. DMB 2004-10-03 Palace of Auburn Hills, Auburn Hills, MI
  18. DMB 2005-06-05 Post-Gazette Pavilion at Star Lake, Burgettstown, PA
  19. DMB 2005-06-15 Blossom Music Center, Cuyahoga Falls, OH
  20. DMB 2005-07-01 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  21. DMB 2005-07-02 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  22. DMB 2005-07-27 Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, Darien Center, NY
  23. DMB 2005-08-25 Coors Amphitheatre, Chula Vista, CA
  24. DMB 2005-12-03 Joe Louis Arena, Detroit, MI
  25. DMB 2005-12-04 Air Canada Centre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  26. DMB 2005-12-07 Blue Cross Arena, Rochester, NY
  27. DMB 2006-06-13 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  28. DMB 2006-06-14 Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, Darien Center, NY
  29. DMB 2006-06-16 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  30. DMB 2006-06-17 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  31. DMB 2006-09-22 John Paul Jones Arena, Charlottesville, VA
  32. DMB 2006-09-23 John Paul Jones Arena, Charlottesville, VA
  33. DMB 2007-08-10 Post-Gazette Pavilion at Star Lake, Burgettstown, PA
  34. DMB 2008-06-18 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  35. DMB 2008-06-20 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  36. DMB 2008-06-21 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  37. DMB 2008-08-09 Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI
  38. DMB 2008-08-10 Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI
  39. DMB 2009-06-10 Parc Jean Drapeau, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
  40. DMB 2009-06-12 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  41. DMB 2009-06-13 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY



Amazing music, amazing musicians (especially Carter Beauford on the drums) and just a great time overall.

I look forward to the first DMB Blu-ray.
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:49 PM   #3
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I have seen Dave Matthews Band 41 times since November 17th, 1998...and not just at the local venue either. Road trips, hotels, gas, tickets, tailgating expenses, but I've had some of the greatest times of my life seeing this band and meeting new friends all across Canada and USA. I met my wife at a DMB show and the majority of my closest circle of friends are all people that I've met at DMB shows.
  1. DMB 1998-11-17 Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  2. DMB 2000-07-21 Ralph Wilson Stadium, Buffalo, NY
  3. DMB 2001-06-20 Ralph Wilson Stadium, Buffalo, NY
  4. DMB 2001-08-10 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  5. DMB 2002-04-19 Air Canada Centre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  6. DMB 2002-04-20 Corel Centre, Kanata, Ontario, Canada
  7. DMB 2002-12-16 Blue Cross Arena, Rochester, NY
  8. DMB 2003-09-02 Bell Centre, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
  9. DMB 2003-09-03 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  10. DMB 2003-09-24 Great Lawn - Central Park, New York, NY
  11. DMB 2004-06-30 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  12. DMB 2004-07-02 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  13. DMB 2004-07-03 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  14. DMB 2004-07-13 Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, Darien Center, NY
  15. DMB 2004-09-12 Polo Field - Golden Gate Park , San Francisco, CA
  16. DMB 2004-10-01 Bryce Jordan Center - Penn State University, University Park, PA
  17. DMB 2004-10-03 Palace of Auburn Hills, Auburn Hills, MI
  18. DMB 2005-06-05 Post-Gazette Pavilion at Star Lake, Burgettstown, PA
  19. DMB 2005-06-15 Blossom Music Center, Cuyahoga Falls, OH
  20. DMB 2005-07-01 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  21. DMB 2005-07-02 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  22. DMB 2005-07-27 Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, Darien Center, NY
  23. DMB 2005-08-25 Coors Amphitheatre, Chula Vista, CA
  24. DMB 2005-12-03 Joe Louis Arena, Detroit, MI
  25. DMB 2005-12-04 Air Canada Centre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  26. DMB 2005-12-07 Blue Cross Arena, Rochester, NY
  27. DMB 2006-06-13 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  28. DMB 2006-06-14 Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, Darien Center, NY
  29. DMB 2006-06-16 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  30. DMB 2006-06-17 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  31. DMB 2006-09-22 John Paul Jones Arena, Charlottesville, VA
  32. DMB 2006-09-23 John Paul Jones Arena, Charlottesville, VA
  33. DMB 2007-08-10 Post-Gazette Pavilion at Star Lake, Burgettstown, PA
  34. DMB 2008-06-18 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  35. DMB 2008-06-20 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  36. DMB 2008-06-21 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  37. DMB 2008-08-09 Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI
  38. DMB 2008-08-10 Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI
  39. DMB 2009-06-10 Parc Jean Drapeau, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
  40. DMB 2009-06-12 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  41. DMB 2009-06-13 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY



Amazing music, amazing musicians (especially Carter Beauford on the drums) and just a great time overall.

I look forward to the first DMB Blu-ray.
Gee Steve,

I guess that you can't stand Dave Matthews.

Rich
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Old 07-28-2009, 04:22 PM   #4
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Wow Doby!

I've never seen DMB.... not my cup of tea, but have seen Phish between 50 and 60 times..... so I know all about travel expenses and Ticker-raper charges, and "Lot-Accessories"
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DMB will be on David Letterman again FRI 7-31-09
Any news on a Blue Ray release of DMB?
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DMB will be on David Letterman again FRI 7-31-09
Any news on a Blue Ray release of DMB?
Yeah I heard that, seems weird as they're playing the first night of the two night stand in Noblesville, IN.

Usually Letterman tapes around 5pm so that seems like a tight squeeze to get back to IN in time. Perhaps they taped the other performance yesterday in advance. According to Stefan's Facebook page the band left NYC last night.

My friend got to meet Stefan, Boyd and Dave after the taping outside Ed Sullivan, lucky!!

No Blu-ray news on DMB yet, but I'm sure it's not far off. Central Park was taped in HD and 24-bit audio so they could do a release of that.
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Wow Doby!

I've never seen DMB.... not my cup of tea, but have seen Phish between 50 and 60 times..... so I know all about travel expenses and Ticker-raper charges, and "Lot-Accessories"
Are you seeing them this year or looking forward to the new studio album?
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Yeah I heard that, seems weird as they're playing the first night of the two night stand in Noblesville, IN.

Usually Letterman tapes around 5pm so that seems like a tight squeeze to get back to IN in time. Perhaps they taped the other performance yesterday in advance. According to Stefan's Facebook page the band left NYC last night.

My friend got to meet Stefan, Boyd and Dave after the taping outside Ed Sullivan, lucky!!

No Blu-ray news on DMB yet, but I'm sure it's not far off. Central Park was taped in HD and 24-bit audio so they could do a release of that.

Letterman tapes 2 shows on Thursdays -- Thursday's show first, then Friday's show.
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Are you seeing them this year or looking forward to the new studio album?
I've seen them 4 times times already this year..... and will be going to more shows.... They announced their Halloween Show for California, and that's a little too big of a trip with a baby due 2 weeks before

I never get too excited about the albums, and download shows from their website usually.
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I've seen them 4 times times already this year..... and will be going to more shows.... They announced their Halloween Show for California, and that's a little too big of a trip with a baby due 2 weeks before

I never get too excited about the albums, and download shows from their website usually.
Change of concert subject. I am seeing Asia and Yes tonight at the Tower Theater outside of Philadelphia and at Musikfest in Bethlehem, PA on Sunday for the last concert of the North American tour.

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They also shot the Piedmont Park[Atlanta]show in HD[maybe they'll do a 2 disc set w/Central/Piedmont park].
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They also shot the Piedmont Park[Atlanta]show in HD[maybe they'll do a 2 disc set w/Central/Piedmont park].
They did, but I question the quality of the camera's they used - it definitely didn't seem like Sony's usual HD cameras. The quality of the picture is pretty poor on the DVD, the black levels seem off, way too much grain, etc., etc.

The 24-bit/48kHz 2.0 PCM track was mighty nice though.

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Letterman tapes 2 shows on Thursdays -- Thursday's show first, then Friday's show.
Bingo! That explains it, thanks.

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I've seen them 4 times times already this year..... and will be going to more shows....
Ha! Sounds like you must have been pretty happy when they got back together.

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I never get too excited about the albums, and download shows from their website usually.
I know how that goes - if it hadn't been for LeRoi passing I wouldn't have been too excited for this new album either but they delivered for the first time since 1998's Before These Crowded Streets. The last two DMB albums, 2001's Everyday and 2005's Stand Up really paled in comparison to the first three albums.

I wish DMB would offer more soundboards...but I'm pretty happy with the taping community as they usually tape in 24-bit and most of the big shows (Alpine, SPAC, Gorge, etc.) are available in 24-bit. The bands themselves could learn a thing or two from the tapers - I would definitely pay a few bucks each to DMB for 24-bit/96kHz .flac soundboards!!

The best performances are always from shows with guys like this and I'm sure no doubt you phishheads talk about songs, dates and venues the same way my friends and I talk about dmb shows.

"Have you heard Dreaming Tree from 07.25.98?"
"Yeah, with Greg Howard on stage? Totally awesome! You heard Two Step from 09.22.06?"

Haha.
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I've watched the Piedmont Park show on Palladia in HD and it looks pretty darn good imho.
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Yeah I saw the Palladia broadcast too and wasn't impressed - anytime there was lots of lighting changes, fast movement like close-ups of Carter with cymbals shining, etc., it would pixelate really badly...and the blacks still looked washed out compared to Central Park.

I'd certainly love to see a Blu-ray release though, if the potential is there they'll get it...but it definitely didn't seem like it had the kind of production that Radio City had.

Anyway, it always seemed silly to me that the Warehouse advertised Piedmont Park DVD as being "shot in high definition to provide viewers the ultimate sound and vision quality" despite using a format that gave us 448 Kbps 5.1 and 480i MPEG-2 encoded video. A Blu-ray would give us 24/96 5.1 I have no doubt...as DMB has been archiving every show multi-tracked at 24/96 since April 30th, 1996.
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ha ha, I am going Friday to see them in IN.
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I have seen Dave Matthews Band 41 times since November 17th, 1998...and not just at the local venue either. Road trips, hotels, gas, tickets, tailgating expenses, but I've had some of the greatest times of my life seeing this band and meeting new friends all across Canada and USA. I met my wife at a DMB show and the majority of my closest circle of friends are all people that I've met at DMB shows.
  1. DMB 1998-11-17 Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  2. DMB 2000-07-21 Ralph Wilson Stadium, Buffalo, NY
  3. DMB 2001-06-20 Ralph Wilson Stadium, Buffalo, NY
  4. DMB 2001-08-10 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  5. DMB 2002-04-19 Air Canada Centre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  6. DMB 2002-04-20 Corel Centre, Kanata, Ontario, Canada
  7. DMB 2002-12-16 Blue Cross Arena, Rochester, NY
  8. DMB 2003-09-02 Bell Centre, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
  9. DMB 2003-09-03 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  10. DMB 2003-09-24 Great Lawn - Central Park, New York, NY
  11. DMB 2004-06-30 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  12. DMB 2004-07-02 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  13. DMB 2004-07-03 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  14. DMB 2004-07-13 Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, Darien Center, NY
  15. DMB 2004-09-12 Polo Field - Golden Gate Park , San Francisco, CA
  16. DMB 2004-10-01 Bryce Jordan Center - Penn State University, University Park, PA
  17. DMB 2004-10-03 Palace of Auburn Hills, Auburn Hills, MI
  18. DMB 2005-06-05 Post-Gazette Pavilion at Star Lake, Burgettstown, PA
  19. DMB 2005-06-15 Blossom Music Center, Cuyahoga Falls, OH
  20. DMB 2005-07-01 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  21. DMB 2005-07-02 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  22. DMB 2005-07-27 Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, Darien Center, NY
  23. DMB 2005-08-25 Coors Amphitheatre, Chula Vista, CA
  24. DMB 2005-12-03 Joe Louis Arena, Detroit, MI
  25. DMB 2005-12-04 Air Canada Centre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  26. DMB 2005-12-07 Blue Cross Arena, Rochester, NY
  27. DMB 2006-06-13 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  28. DMB 2006-06-14 Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, Darien Center, NY
  29. DMB 2006-06-16 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  30. DMB 2006-06-17 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  31. DMB 2006-09-22 John Paul Jones Arena, Charlottesville, VA
  32. DMB 2006-09-23 John Paul Jones Arena, Charlottesville, VA
  33. DMB 2007-08-10 Post-Gazette Pavilion at Star Lake, Burgettstown, PA
  34. DMB 2008-06-18 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  35. DMB 2008-06-20 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  36. DMB 2008-06-21 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  37. DMB 2008-08-09 Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI
  38. DMB 2008-08-10 Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, WI
  39. DMB 2009-06-10 Parc Jean Drapeau, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
  40. DMB 2009-06-12 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY
  41. DMB 2009-06-13 Saratoga Performing Arts Center, Saratoga Springs, NY



Amazing music, amazing musicians (especially Carter Beauford on the drums) and just a great time overall.

I look forward to the first DMB Blu-ray.
Please don't tell my wife, but I have very good memories of the Saratoga Performing Arts Center and the Skidmore College (used to be a girls only college) when I was a student in Upstate New York.
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ha ha, I am going Friday to see them in IN.
Great venue - they have seen some AWESOME show there over the years.
Bartender from 07.25.01 with Jeff Coffin guesting is one of the top 3 performances of that song all time!

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Please don't tell my wife, but I have very good memories of the Saratoga Performing Arts Center and the Skidmore College (used to be a girls only college) when I was a student in Upstate New York.
Haha, it's the most beautiful place I've ever tailgated...such a cool town also.
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Haha, it's the most beautiful place I've ever tailgated...such a cool town also.
Do they still have horse racing in Saratoga?
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Do they still have horse racing in Saratoga?
Still a HUGE town for the ponies, absolutely.
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Dave has cost me thousands of dollars , The first Blue Ray Music Disc I purchased was Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds Live @RCMH ,one of the best Blue Ray concerts ever , I was hooked , It looked so good on my Samsung lcd TV but I know I was missing good quality sound over the tv speakers , So I purch some good quality speakers and a AVR , Oh my the sound is fantastic .Fast forward 1 Year and I am Best Buy and see the Dave and Tim on Blue Ray Playing on a Pioneer Kuro plasma TV and it looks way better than my LCD TV, So guess what , I took it home , Thanks Dave , keep it up !
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