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Old 12-04-2009, 07:20 PM   #1
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Take most of the Saw movies, Terminator 2, and The Punisher (Thomas Jane). I haven't seen how they look on Blu but most people say they are crap transfers. My question is even if they are bad transfers do they still look better than DVD. I've had a PS3 for 3 years but never really cared for Blu Ray too much and now out of nowhere I'm making the switch and rebuying all of my favorite movies on Blu Ray.
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:22 PM   #2
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They are not crap transfers.. Just better than standard DVD.

T2 Skynet Edition IMO is a very good transfer. The Saw series could of looked better. I bet someone will bring up Gladiator too.
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:31 PM   #3
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Although this question comes up a lot, I have yet to find anyone who actually thinks a specific DVD looks better than it's Blu counterpart. It's like how even a crappy BMW looks better than a nice Escort.
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:34 PM   #4
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Blu-ray > DVD. Always, even if only marginally.
You can experiment on this if you want. I've hooked up a DVD player and Blu-ray player to the same TV and paused movies at the same spot, switched sources and looked. Even on movies with okay to worse transfers look better on Blu-ray (this takes into account upscaling).
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:14 PM   #5
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Blu-ray > DVD. Always, even if only marginally.
You can experiment on this if you want. I've hooked up a DVD player and Blu-ray player to the same TV and paused movies at the same spot, switched sources and looked. Even on movies with okay to worse transfers look better on Blu-ray (this takes into account upscaling).
Trust me I know this, I did it with the Dark Knight. amazing pq/aq. But anyway I guess it doesn't hurt to get the Punisher again even if the improvement is minimal. The only thing I don't like about it is the DVD I have is the extended cut and the BR isn't.
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:20 PM   #6
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"slightly better than DVD" isn't worth $20-30 to me.
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:22 PM   #7
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Bad Transfer Blu is ALWAYS bad if you can wait to spend the same cash on a better Blu of the same movie when it is re-released on a "Collector's Edition" etc.

IMHO of course!
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:23 PM   #8
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"slightly better than DVD" isn't worth $20-30 to me.
This is what i was thinking. If its only a slight difference why would i want to spend another $20 on that.
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:25 PM   #9
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"slightly better than DVD" isn't worth $20-30 to me.
True, but most of the titles mentioned are only in the $10 range or even less.
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:27 PM   #10
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no, i dont think the blu-ray is ever worse than the DVD. have yet to watch one that was.
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:27 PM   #11
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Get Netflix and rent the Blu first to see if it is worth it to you to buy it outright!

My other $.02
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:28 PM   #12
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Trust me I know this, I did it with the Dark Knight. amazing pq/aq. But anyway I guess it doesn't hurt to get the Punisher again even if the improvement is minimal. The only thing I don't like about it is the DVD I have is the extended cut and the BR isn't.
I'm not upgrading Punisher untill it is a better realese.

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"slightly better than DVD" isn't worth $20-30 to me.
Not to me either. I almost never buy Blu-rays over $20, especially when I already own the DVD but certain movies like The Fugitive, easily the worst PQ Blu I own but I did not own the DVD and I think it is a really good movie so it was worth the $12 to have the movie. I do not upgrade unless the release is significantly better than the DVD I own, otherwise I can deal with my DVD.
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:45 PM   #13
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Get Netflix and rent the Blu first to see if it is worth it to you to buy it outright!

My other $.02
I don't rent anything period. Besides that's another $9 a month I could use one games, movies, and gas.
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Old 12-04-2009, 08:50 PM   #14
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If the PQ of the film is not stellar to begin with, I have seen only marginal improvements with BD, but there is almost always some improvement.
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Ive finally bought a blu ray movie that looks worse than the dvd !!!!Its friday the 13th part 3 , and yes, ive compared it to the new special edition dvd.Worse looking blu ray ever !!!!!
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Ive finally bought a blu ray movie that looks worse than the dvd !!!!Its friday the 13th part 3 , and yes, ive compared it to the new special edition dvd.Worse looking blu ray ever !!!!!
Did you buy it on Friday the 13th
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:43 PM   #17
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Virtually every film released on Blu-ray is superior to any dvd version. The problem is that the standard is not 480p anymore, but the great quality seen in most other Blu-rays. Try watching 1080p content for a month exclusively, then go back and try out a dvd. The differences are vast, even on the best dvds.
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:47 PM   #18
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I had a chance to watch the import of Kurosawa's "Ran." Known for being a pretty bad transfer, "barely" better than the DVD. I was watching it and thinking, yeah, this is not worth the upgrade, the detail in this is horrible. I put in my DVD and realized the blu was still WAAYYY better than it.
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I have yet to see any BD that doesn't looks better than its DVD counterpart.
The exception is perhaps 28 days later. But the movie look the way it is supposed to look. It can't look better. Anyway the audio track included on the Blu-ray puts to shame the DVD. Therefore all in all even 28 days later BD is superior to the DVD
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True, but most of the titles mentioned are only in the $10 range or even less.
Exactly, plus, you can always wait until a movie gets to that range if you don't feel it is worth the money at the time. I have no problem spending more if I feel the movie is worth it, but to each their own.

To answer the question though, yes. You can notice noise or grain more on certain BD's that have bad transfers, but even they offer some form of an upgrade.
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