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Old 12-11-2009, 05:54 AM   #1
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If I'm around and think I will use it again shortly I'll leave it on. I heard from the top audio dealer in Victoria that turning your electronics off and on are hard on them.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:59 AM   #2
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If I'm around and think I will use it again shortly I'll leave it on. I heard from the top audio dealer in Victoria that turning your electronics off and on are hard on them.
Many believe that leaving an amplifier or receiver on is better for them in the long run. Some say the same thing about computers. The thinking is that turning them on and off will do some damage and shortens their lives.

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Old 12-11-2009, 06:03 AM   #3
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2.5 years of turning my onkyo on and off after each viewing...still going like a tank
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Old 12-11-2009, 06:37 AM   #4
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Many believe that leaving an amplifier or receiver on is better for them in the long run. Some say the same thing about computers. The thinking is that turning them on and off will do some damage and shortens their lives.
I am not sure about the amp or receiver but if you leave your computer on it WILL run slower over time, it's best to turn it off at the end of the day.
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Old 12-11-2009, 06:42 AM   #5
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I am not sure about the amp or receiver but if you leave your computer on it WILL run slower over time, it's best to turn it off at the end of the day.
I don't believe that is a hardware problem. That is mainly because Microsoft produces lousy operating systems.
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I don't believe that is a hardware problem. That is mainly because Microsoft produces lousy operating systems.
This. This right here.
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Old 12-11-2009, 08:56 AM   #7
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I don't believe that is a hardware problem. That is mainly because Microsoft produces lousy operating systems.
+1000 I have always and forever be a late adopter with regards to MS OS was using windows 3.11 until i found that 98se was stable enough then skipped ME went XP due to compatibility issues and still using XP at the moment. Only thing I know is MS is so good at killing or buying out the competition good thing apple got some government school projects to ensure their survival.

On topic tho I turn mine off for environmental purposes
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If the tv is on, the receiver is on. The tv is on an average of 15-18 hrs. a day.
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:18 PM   #9
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Off...whenever its not in use.
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:46 PM   #10
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I think with all electronics, turning them off is a generally good idea.

Reason #1: Power Outages - Does alot more damage than a years worth of power up and power downs - Of course you can avoid that by hooking the unit up to a UPS. Which is a really good idea IMHO.

Reason #2: Save Electricity & Money - By leaving on the equipment, your wasting electricity and thus money - You could have easily replaced it (With the money you could have saved) for a newer model by the time you have done any damage to the unit.

Reason #3: Fire - That's right, by leaving on equipment, that you are not monitoring, you are increasing the risk of uncontrollable fire and a loss to everything in your home.
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:54 PM   #11
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Are we discussing actually turning off the equipment or putting it in Standby mode?
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:55 PM   #12
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Nothing fixes a microsoft os like a reboot. Most people have to reboot several times a day.

I leave my AVR and PS3 on standby, I've heard you can save energy by turning them fully off.

All things considered my AVR didn't cost very much and it's awesome. If I had to replace it in a few years it would likely be even better for under $500 so with all that in mind I have no fear of shortening it's life by turning it off.


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Think about this most of the TV's in Future Shop or Best Buy are on all day.
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I leave my receiver on "Standby"
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Old 12-11-2009, 06:57 PM   #15
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I think with all electronics, turning them off is a generally good idea.

Reason #1: Power Outages - Does alot more damage than a years worth of power up and power downs - Of course you can avoid that by hooking the unit up to a UPS. Which is a really good idea IMHO.

power outages are unexpected, how can that have anything to do with "a good reason to turn your equipment off?" You ended up correct with it may be a good reason to have a UPS so that you can "properly" power-down your equipment.


Reason #2: Save Electricity & Money - By leaving on the equipment, your wasting electricity and thus money - You could have easily replaced it (With the money you could have saved) for a newer model by the time you have done any damage to the unit.

????wouldn't this be anytime you are watching it? what's the difference in watching a movie and pausing a movie to go to the bathroom? or do you recommend turning everything off, go to the bathroom and then come back and turn it on?

Reason #3: Fire - That's right, by leaving on equipment, that you are not monitoring, you are increasing the risk of uncontrollable fire and a loss to everything in your home.

Do you turn off the main circuit breaker that feeds your house everyday you leave it and while you are sleeping? what kind of advice is this, your joking right? it must be awfully cold when you get home in the winter with the furnace turned off and awfully hot in the summer with the a/c turned off. this statement is really, really unreasonable and not true. the entire world should have burned down to the ground by now according to you.


i think you really need to re-think most of these reasons; only reason 2 offers something that is somewhat valid.
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I put my equipment on standby when I'm done. Also I think that the green features of certain power centers/bars that allow to cut the supply of electronics when not in use is really a great idea to save energy since most components go on standby and are still using electricity if they are plugged in.

On my part, I'm a bit too lazy to turn the power center off....

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Think about this most of the TV's in Future Shop or Best Buy are on all day.
But they change them every year when the new models come out...

That's why you don't want to buy a demo TV!

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Old 12-11-2009, 07:43 PM   #17
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I think you might have misinterpreted a bit of what I was talking about.

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power outages are unexpected, how can that have anything to do with "a good reason to turn your equipment off?" You ended up correct with it may be a good reason to have a UPS so that you can "properly" power-down your equipment.
Power outages (Especially to computer equipment) can be hazardous. Mostly due to hard drive corruption and errors. In some regions power outages can occur regularly. Your right that this could happen even while you are using the equipment. But you are increasing the risk of damage by leaving it on all the time.

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????wouldn't this be anytime you are watching it? what's the difference in watching a movie and pausing a movie to go to the bathroom? or do you recommend turning everything off, go to the bathroom and then come back and turn it on?
No. By leaving it on all the time you are wasting money on electricity and wearing down your equipment. Keeping the unit powered up is not the same as standby. We are talking about leaving it on 24 x 7. That could be a lot of electricity ($$$) wasted over the year. Even in standby you could be losing hundreds of dollars a year.

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Do you turn off the main circuit breaker that feeds your house everyday you leave it and while you are sleeping? what kind of advice is this, your joking right? it must be awfully cold when you get home in the winter with the furnace turned off and awfully hot in the summer with the a/c turned off. this statement is really, really unreasonable and not true. the entire world should have burned down to the ground by now according to you.
We need to differentiate here equipment, like your furnace, fridge, etc ... which is design to run 24 x 7 and Home Theater equipment which is NOT designed to run 24 x 7. Even computer equipment (excluding servers) are not rated for this. Any equipment that has not be throughly tested for extended periods of time should be shut off after use. I think this just makes good sense. Hell, I could tell you to turn off power bars too, but most would just laugh at me. Power bars cause a lot of house/office fires FYI. But usually due to negligence (Too much plugged in and left on). I am not saying that this will happen to you, but I think reducing the risk is always a good call.

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When I'm not using my sytem, I turn it off, or more accurately standby.

tilallr1 you're right about power strips starting fires. Ive seen it several times, but it's always ONLY been with the cheapos like you buy at Wal-Mart for $5. I've never seen a fire started by a high-quality power conditioner/surge protector.
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[QUOTE=tilallr1;2637041]I think you might have misinterpreted a bit of what I was talking about.



Power outages (Especially to computer equipment) can be hazardous. Mostly due to hard drive corruption and errors. In some regions power outages can occur regularly. Your right that this could happen even while you are using the equipment. But you are increasing the risk of damage by leaving it on all the time.

OK, this post is about receivers and you didn't state anything about "especially computer equipment" in your response so please be specific and yes that would be true for computer equipment and I agree about the UPS for that.


No. By leaving it on all the time you are wasting money on electricity and wearing down your equipment. Keeping the unit powered up is not the same as standby. We are talking about leaving it on 24 x 7. That could be a lot of electricity ($$$) wasted over the year. Even in standby you could be losing hundreds of dollars a year.

Please go back and look at my response also notice i bolded a line in your initial response. you implied that leaving on your equipment on you have done damage to it, that is what my response was to. of course your wasting money if you leave the equipment running and are not actually using it in that part of the text you are correct and I never disagreed with that portion of your statement. you put up my statement but not yours or the part of yours i was talking about.



We need to differentiate here equipment, like your furnace, fridge, etc ... which is design to run 24 x 7 and Home Theater equipment which is NOT designed to run 24 x 7. Even computer equipment (excluding servers) are not rated for this. Any equipment that has not be throughly tested for extended periods of time should be shut off after use. I think this just makes good sense. Hell, I could tell you to turn off power bars too, but most would just laugh at me. Power bars cause a lot of house/office fires FYI. But usually due to negligence (Too much plugged in and left on). I am not saying that this will happen to you, but I think reducing the risk is always a good call.

Ok, I see your location is Canada so I am just speaking about things made in the USA. Everything down here has what is called a UL listing (that is legal for use) that listing has tested this equipment to determine that it is safe for use under various standards of use to include extended use and also to see that it does and functions as the folks who made it claim so that they can get their listing. if equipment was tested by UL laboratories and was found that it caught fire after 3 hours of either use or idle time (idle for a receiver being in a fully "on" condition but doing nothing) it would not receive a UL listing because it was found to be dangerous. OR the folks who make it must put something that states you should not use this for extended periods of time (maximum time given) or it will become dangerously hot and or might cause fire and/or it will void the warrenty. if that is not listed, in the literature that comes with the device or printed on the box as such and it does cause fire the company is liable especially if they do not have a UL seal on their product or if they withheld information from UL in order to get the seal. also, the initial poster didn't mention anything about leaving his HT equipment on 24/7, you did in your response, which is also not true, show me in a receiver or amp where it tells you how long you can use the equipment before it's dangerous? It will tell you to make sure it has good cool air flow to help keep the equipment cool when operating, some will tell you to ensure you have a good power source (not poor quality power) some warn you that the equipment will be come warm over long, extended periods of use and not to worry about that as it is normal but none (that i'm aware of) tell you that you can't have it on 24 x 7 if you wanted to or you will damage it. Oh yeah, your furnace or your fridge are not designed to run 24 x 7, they are thermostatically controlled and designed to satisfy up to a given temperature and cycle after said temperatures are reached. if you undersize them or do not use them properly and they run longer than nomal (talking about things like the furnace and the fridge) their life expectancey will be shortened from over use beyond what they were designed for. also, I am not familiar with the term "power bars" (is that something used up in Canada?) other than them being a nutritous snack food high in protien, carbs, calories, etc. perhaps you could elaborate for us southerners! I do agree that turning things off when your not going to use them for long periods of time, i.e. receivers since that what this post is supposed to be about, is a good idea and by turning them off i mean with a remote or powerbutton on the front of it placing the receiver in a standby condition.


I didn't misinterpret you, i only responded to what you wrote.
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When I'm not using my sytem, I turn it off, or more accurately standby.

tilallr1 you're right about power strips starting fires. Ive seen it several times, but it's always ONLY been with the cheapos like you buy at Wal-Mart for $5. I've never seen a fire started by a high-quality power conditioner/surge protector.
more times than not, it's not because the "chepos" are at fault because of their design, most of the time it because they are being overloaded beyond their design and their intent. or (and this applies to even the really good ones) things that are plugged into them are not plugged in all the way and that will cause arcing and excessive heating which also leads to fires.

I work for the government and also with the firemarshalls office at times during investigations into fires that are believed to be of an electrical nature so i do know how lots of these things with plug strips go. more times than not you will find an electrical heater plugged into it that caused the fire, lots of little low voltage power supplys, lots of dust, dirt on it and perhaps near combustable materials, ladies sweaters, shoes papers, files. remember, folks tend to kick these things cause they are under their desk and more times than not folks just don't engage the plug into the receptacles correctly and don't even realize it. they also don't read the literature that comes with it and check for the warnings about use or misuse.

but yeah, sometimes, the "chepos" do cause fire because of poor design. Thats one of the reasons when i advise folks about surge suppressors, line conditioners, UPS's I always say "make sure its properly sized for the intended load as to NOT overload it!" the protective devices listed/mentioned should always have a higher power rating than the required power of the load. this gives the device a bit of cushion for peak demands by the load.

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