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Old 12-16-2011, 07:15 PM   #1
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One of the fun things I get to do with my kid is introduce him to movies.

But when I see them, especially multiple times, I start seeing flaws. Sometimes, editing mistakes, sometimes gaps in logic.

Here are a few I've come across.

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Transformers 1 - towards the end, Bumble Bee gets hit, Sam is on the ground, he gets up and has a romantic goodbye with the girl. Next shot he is on the ground again with Bumble Bee crawling towards him. Completely editing screw up.

Spiderman 2 - I'm watching Spiderman fight Doc Ock. Never thought about, but how the heck is Ock surviving this. He is getting thrown all over the place, falling off of buildings, but the biggest thing of all, Spiderman is repeatedly hitting him in the face. Sorry, but mechanical arms don't make you indestructible. He never even gets a mark. I think one punch from Spiderman would have caved his face in. But what really amazes me, is that I never thought of that before.

I love finding gaps in logic. You guys have any?
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:19 PM   #2
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I usually spot a lot of stuff that just make me go

"Alright, this does not make sense"

However most of the time I just turn it off by saying

"This movie as a billionaire dressing up in black costume fighting some weird looking psycho guy"

If the movie can keep my interest with a good story and good acting I can over look it. If the movie is just CGI candy with no acting and no story just drive me nuts.
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:36 PM   #3
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I usually spot a lot of stuff that just make me go

"Alright, this does not make sense"

However most of the time I just turn it off by saying

"This movie as a billionaire dressing up in black costume fighting some weird looking psycho guy"

If the movie can keep my interest with a good story and good acting I can over look it. If the movie is just CGI candy with no acting and no story just drive me nuts.
Agreed. 100%.
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:03 PM   #4
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I just saw The Town for the first time this week. I had one of those moments when they broke into the "cash room" at Fenway. There's no way a major ballpark, amphitheater, etc. keeps several million dollars in cash on site. They probably have tens of thousands for the vendors, clubhouse store, etc. but cash is routinely carried offsite via armored transport during the course of each event to lessen the impact if there ever was an actually burglary. Also, I'm sure the cash is brought straight to the park via armored truck and distributed to the right areas, not stored away in a small room with a couple of middle aged men to care for it.
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:34 PM   #5
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the whole supernova thing in the last Star Trek movie really makes me laugh- is Spock the only one who did calculations on it? Wouldn't the Romulans have people working in this too Wouldn't they go "Hey Spock, you have the decimal in the wrong spot?" That and why the Romulans are bald and tattooed when it is supposed to be a sign of mourning yet there is no time for them to get all that work done since Romulas was destroyed and they were pulled through time right away. Details, details....
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:48 PM   #6
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Here we go. Another one of these threads.......


THEY ARE MOVIES PEOPLE! THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY PERFECT!


Most of the time, if I notice one of these "flaws," I just laugh it off and continue to enjoy.

I can be pretty sometimes. But, some people are TOO just .
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:32 PM   #7
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the whole supernova thing in the last Star Trek movie really makes me laugh- is Spock the only one who did calculations on it? Wouldn't the Romulans have people working in this too Wouldn't they go "Hey Spock, you have the decimal in the wrong spot?" That and why the Romulans are bald and tattooed when it is supposed to be a sign of mourning yet there is no time for them to get all that work done since Romulas was destroyed and they were pulled through time right away. Details, details....
Great point - the more I think about the time travel stuff they pushed on everyone in Star Trek, the more I find it kind of a convenient plot device. Still a great flick and I want a sequel..... its just cheesey though.
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:54 PM   #8
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I just saw The Town for the first time this week. I had one of those moments when they broke into the "cash room" at Fenway. There's no way a major ballpark, amphitheater, etc. keeps several million dollars in cash on site. They probably have tens of thousands for the vendors, clubhouse store, etc. but cash is routinely carried offsite via armored transport during the course of each event to lessen the impact if there ever was an actually burglary. Also, I'm sure the cash is brought straight to the park via armored truck and distributed to the right areas, not stored away in a small room with a couple of middle aged men to care for it.
That entire movie was a plot hole.

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Old 12-18-2011, 02:07 PM   #9
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That entire movie was a plot whole.
like, it was a whole plot? or a plot HOLE?

[Show spoiler]i hope you see this Squiddy!
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:55 PM   #10
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I usually spot a lot of stuff that just make me go

"Alright, this does not make sense"

However most of the time I just turn it off by saying

"This movie as a billionaire dressing up in black costume fighting some weird looking psycho guy"
Although Mythbusters did actually test out whether you could do that hi-speed "anchor" corner turn like the Batmobile did in the first Tim Burton movie.
Answer: You couldn't--Not without taking the whole telephone pole with it.
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:57 PM   #11
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Although Mythbusters did actually test out whether you could do that hi-speed "anchor" corner turn like the Batmobile did in the first Tim Burton movie.
Answer: You couldn't--Not without taking the whole telephone pole with it.
I actually saw that episode, yeah just not possible
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Old 12-17-2011, 12:21 PM   #12
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Any movie with guns shooting. They never seem to run out of bullets or change clips. Once in a while you will see someone change a clip.
Watch Blue in the face.Funny movie,and while you're at it watch Smoke too.In reverse order as I stated them ofcourse

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Although Mythbusters did actually test out whether you could do that hi-speed "anchor" corner turn like the Batmobile did in the first Tim Burton movie.
Answer: You couldn't--Not without taking the whole telephone pole with it.
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I actually saw that episode, yeah just not possible
Depends really how sturdy they make telephone poles in gotham city doesn't it,or did they go there to test that theory
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Old 12-16-2011, 10:11 PM   #13
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Here we go. Another one of these threads.......


THEY ARE MOVIES PEOPLE! THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY PERFECT!


Most of the time, if I notice one of these "flaws," I just laugh it off and continue to enjoy.

I can be pretty sometimes. But, some people are TOO just .
I'm curious...why even click on the thread? The title couldn't have been more clear, could it?

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Although Mythbusters did actually test out whether you could do that hi-speed "anchor" corner turn like the Batmobile did in the first Tim Burton movie.
Answer: You couldn't--Not without taking the whole telephone pole with it.
I didn't see that but I did catch the bit they did about the handgun/RPG showdown (from Red, maybe?) and it was surprisingly interesting.
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Old 12-16-2011, 10:24 PM   #14
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Generally, when I watch movies I be the last one to catch mistakes, but recently when I was watching Conan, the 2011 version, I caught a very obvious one that I don't understand how it made its way into the final movie. When Conan is on the ship, discussing some plans with Ukafa? I believe, as the camera changes from the angle of showing Conan from a back view to facing him, he goes from standing to leaning with each change. The background noises even slightly differ with each shot!
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Old 12-30-2011, 05:30 AM   #15
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I usually spot a lot of stuff that just make me go
"Alright, this does not make sense"
However most of the time I just turn it off by saying
"This movie as a billionaire dressing up in black costume fighting some weird looking psycho guy"
I often find humor in the irony and absurdity of working people being played by wealthy hollywood actors.
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Old 12-30-2011, 06:57 AM   #16
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As much as I love the original "Speed" a bus traversing 60+feet of "Gap in Highway" is certainly a gap in logic .

Not sure why Keanu needed to speed the subway train up at the end. keeping speed at the constant they were at would have at least allowed the train to slow up before bursting out to the public..
Yeah, the way they shot that gap-jumping scene was kinda cheap too.

If the original "The Taking of Pelham 123" taught me anything, shouldn't the subway have some kind of automated failsafe/cutoff anyway? Yeah, speedng the train up would have made it worse then too.

The filmmakers just wanted one more 'splosion for the end of the movie.

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Speaking of Speed Neo shoulda shot out a few tires before the bus got over 60.

But then the movie would be over
While he was initially chasing the bus, I don't know if he would have known how fast the bus has gone and whether or not the bomb was armed. It could have been armed hours before he showed up at the scene for all he knew. It was probably better that he didn't take the chance (...and we got a thrilling movie out of it ).
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:02 AM   #17
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I can buy the idea of two facehuggers hitching a ride on the Queen more than an egg mysteriously appearing on the ceiling.
I know, right?

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Don't forget Bishop disappeared for a while with the dropship. It's possible he secretly picked up an egg to take back.

When Ripley talks to him in 3 he knows an alien was on board, how would he know that unless he brought it on board himself.

It's also possible the Queen stuck an egg inside the dropship. The eggsac just holds the eggs, they still come from inside her. Maybe she popped another one out on the way up to Sulaco. The egg may have still needed to mature leaving time for the Sulaco to travel close to the prison planet.
Now I have this funny image in my head of Bishop's torso waddling around with an alien egg under his arm. To be fair, it does make sense for the story; those androids are always trying to smuggle the alien back home.

I see what you mean about the Queen now though. I think that theory makes the most sense to me.
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I often find humor in the irony and absurdity of working people being played by wealthy hollywood actors.
8 Mile was a really good movie but Kim Bassinger and her perfectly coiffed 'trailer trash' hair was very nearly a deal-breaker.
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in regards to the Spidey/Doc Ock fight...

in the comics that's the point. If spidey lands a hit it's pretty much over. The thing is that 4 extremely fast and flexible arms are almost to much for his reflexes and spider sense to handle so he has a very hard time making contact.

The movies just decided the more accurate comics were wrong. (more accurate being relative considering )
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I often find humor in the irony and absurdity of working people being played by wealthy hollywood actors.
This is something that turn me off a lot of sitcom in the 80's and 90's. They quickly turn into fashion shows. You would have the actors dressed up in stuff that was way more expensive for the type of characters they played. Usually started mild but as season went on just would turn ridiculous. Some that come to mind, Family Ties, The Cosby Show, The Facts Of Life....
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