Planck's Constant hd dvd blog: "Disney does sneak attack to bolster Blu-ray format" - Blu-ray Forum

love blu or go home! · 10-19-2007, 07:37 PM

If you are not familiar with the HD-DVD/Blu-ray war then you most likely don't watch movies much. Those who have both formats know that HD-DVD is the technological superior. Much of the reason for the lack of features in Blu-ray is due to the fact that Sony rushed its format out the door early because HD-DVD was already coming out before them and Sony didn't want HD to have a six-month lead in movie titles.

Sony already knows about failed product launches, the Sony Beta tape format was superior to VHS back in the 70s but lost out due to price factors, less recording time, and not understanding what consumers really wanted. And yes, contrary to rumors Sony did allow porno tapes to play on their players although there was definitely a larger selection of titles in VHS format.

Sony has promised Disney that porn films will not show up in Blu-ray which is one of the reasons that Disney picked that format. In fact, Disney's Robert Iger is constantly railing against HD and likes to bruit about the notion that Blu-ray discs outsell HD. The reason they do is that most consumers have no clue of all the features that are lacking in Blu-ray compared to HD. So it looks like the consumer will get the shaft again as two companies battle out their formats in the marketplace.

It's no foregone conclusion who will win, there are so many titles in both formats that it very might well turn out that consumers will need to buy players that can play both formats.

Now here's where the sneaky part come in: Anyone who has seen the Transformers movie knows that it's one of the best films ever made, yes I said that, and the HD disc has become the top seller in recent weeks. This development is very embarrassing to Disney's Iger who couldn't face HD-DVD beating out Blu-ray and so, knowing that Nielsen will begin rating HD sales in November rolled out a sale last Sunday, lasting until 20 Oct 2007, at Amazon and other retail outlets of buy one Disney Blu-ray disc get one free in order to push Disney and Blu-ray titles into the top ten sellers. It seemed to have worked but how low-rent can you get?

I hope Blu-ray fails, not only because they shafted consumers with its horrible early release of the format before it was ready for prime time, but I despise the notion that Disney or anyone else forbids certain content from appearing on their format. It's so Chinese government-like.

Goodguy818 · 10-19-2007, 07:38 PM

link?

Joe Cain · 10-19-2007, 07:39 PM

link?

whoops! not fast enough on the draw!

love blu or go home! · 10-19-2007, 07:39 PM

http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/200...ay_format.html

Rob71 · 10-19-2007, 07:40 PM

71-29

love blu or go home! · 10-19-2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob71

71-29:d

eh? what's that?

Sirtalon · 10-19-2007, 07:41 PM

They are on drugs........................................

powerSURG · 10-19-2007, 07:41 PM

Wow, no mention of the 150 million dollar bribe... imagine that.

tiger roach · 10-19-2007, 07:42 PM

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Anyone who has seen the Transformers movie knows that it's one of the best films ever made...

OK any credibility at all that this guy may have had pretty much evaporated when he wrote that.

bkbluray · 10-19-2007, 07:43 PM

Transformers one of the best movies ever made? Give me a break. I guess only because it's on DUD. I'm sure when Fox releases Star Wars on Blu he'll be saying, "Star Wars is the worst series of all time".

Jamh · 10-19-2007, 07:46 PM

Considering the fact that there IS porn on Blu-ray I'd say Disney doesn't have as much of a problem with it as that guy seems to think they do.

Cyorg · 10-19-2007, 07:48 PM

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Anyone who has seen the Transformers movie knows that it's one of the best films ever made

What a moron. Sure it was an OK movie, but that's going way overboard. The plot was paper thin, and the acting was only fair... The only reason that movie did so well, was special effects and nostalgia. To be honest, if I didn't grow up with Transformers as a kid, this movie would just be another War of the Worlds.

Musashi · 10-19-2007, 07:48 PM

First thing to know about blogs: they're pretty much always wrong.

Well, atleast some of them.

There's no telling if this guy's a complete idiot, a delusional fanboy, or another viral marketing tool. These days there's no telling, but they're all part of the FUD machine.

Edit: Hmm...it's a "low-rent sneak attack" to offer savings on movies?

atomik kinder · 10-19-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bkbluray

Transformers one of the best movies ever made? Give me a break. I guess only because it's on DUD. I'm sure when Fox releases Star Wars on Blu he'll be saying, "Star Wars is the worst series of all time".

That would be my guess. Tranformers if far from one of the best movies ever made. I highly doubt it will ever place in AFI top 100 films of all time. Maybe not even make their top 100 Sci Fi movies either. Also, this is from a blog. Everyone and their mother has a blog these days. HD DVD fanboys will do anything to make themselves feel better. So I am guessing he feels all Disney films are some of the worst films ever made because they are not on HD DVD.

Proteus · 10-19-2007, 07:57 PM

This post is so wrong I'm not sure why you even bothered to post it here (or why I'm even bothering to reply).

The statements in the OP are so completely FALSE on every level it's disgusting and makes me seriously wonder about our education system and how such idiots can be let loose upon society. God bless freedom, I guess.

love blu or go home! · 10-19-2007, 07:58 PM

Well I do agree that he doesn't have all the facts, he makes a good point about disney trying to stop Transformers from beating blu-ray movies this week. I don't have a problem with that I did take advantage on the BOGO free deal. Just shows you how committed Disney is to blu, because Disney is paying the retailers the money they are discounted.

blu-rayfan101 · 10-19-2007, 08:01 PM

Wow, this is so sad wait untill after October and we will see what happens.

Luis_A51 · 10-19-2007, 08:02 PM

The article is total crap. Hollow, without facts and obviously a shot at Sony and Disney. Must be a fanboy.

Its really not even worth commenting on

RickD · 10-19-2007, 08:08 PM

This guy is obviously just trying to piss people off. Did you see his blog before this one?

"Islam is a Phony Religion"

He must love hate mail.

Rick

mfinochio · 10-19-2007, 08:09 PM

It always amazes me how everyone hates Sony, yet they bow to MS. I think MS has a tad bit more of a monopoly than almost anyone is business today, but as Amir says everything they do is good enough.
Michael

10-19-2007, 07:37 PM	#1
love blu or go home! Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:NYC, New York Trading Score:3	Planck's Constant hd dvd blog: "Disney does sneak attack to bolster Blu-ray format" If you are not familiar with the HD-DVD/Blu-ray war then you most likely don't watch movies much. Those who have both formats know that HD-DVD is the technological superior. Much of the reason for the lack of features in Blu-ray is due to the fact that Sony rushed its format out the door early because HD-DVD was already coming out before them and Sony didn't want HD to have a six-month lead in movie titles. Sony already knows about failed product launches, the Sony Beta tape format was superior to VHS back in the 70s but lost out due to price factors, less recording time, and not understanding what consumers really wanted. And yes, contrary to rumors Sony did allow porno tapes to play on their players although there was definitely a larger selection of titles in VHS format. Sony has promised Disney that porn films will not show up in Blu-ray which is one of the reasons that Disney picked that format. In fact, Disney's Robert Iger is constantly railing against HD and likes to bruit about the notion that Blu-ray discs outsell HD. The reason they do is that most consumers have no clue of all the features that are lacking in Blu-ray compared to HD. So it looks like the consumer will get the shaft again as two companies battle out their formats in the marketplace. It's no foregone conclusion who will win, there are so many titles in both formats that it very might well turn out that consumers will need to buy players that can play both formats. Now here's where the sneaky part come in: Anyone who has seen the Transformers movie knows that it's one of the best films ever made, yes I said that, and the HD disc has become the top seller in recent weeks. This development is very embarrassing to Disney's Iger who couldn't face HD-DVD beating out Blu-ray and so, knowing that Nielsen will begin rating HD sales in November rolled out a sale last Sunday, lasting until 20 Oct 2007, at Amazon and other retail outlets of buy one Disney Blu-ray disc get one free in order to push Disney and Blu-ray titles into the top ten sellers. It seemed to have worked but how low-rent can you get? I hope Blu-ray fails, not only because they shafted consumers with its horrible early release of the format before it was ready for prime time, but I despise the notion that Disney or anyone else forbids certain content from appearing on their format. It's so Chinese government-like.

10-19-2007, 07:46 PM	#11
Jamh Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	Considering the fact that there IS porn on Blu-ray I'd say Disney doesn't have as much of a problem with it as that guy seems to think they do. Last edited by Jamh; 10-19-2007 at 07:49 PM.

10-19-2007, 07:48 PM	#13
Musashi Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Manchester, CT Home Theater Gallery:5 4K collection:25 Blu-ray collection:337 Blu-ray reviews: 1	First thing to know about blogs: they're pretty much always wrong. Well, atleast some of them. There's no telling if this guy's a complete idiot, a delusional fanboy, or another viral marketing tool. These days there's no telling, but they're all part of the FUD machine. Edit: Hmm...it's a "low-rent sneak attack" to offer savings on movies? Last edited by Musashi; 10-19-2007 at 08:00 PM.

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10-19-2007, 07:39 PM	#3
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10-19-2007, 07:40 PM	#5
Rob71 Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Florida Home Theater Gallery:13 Blu-ray collection:295 Trading Score:5	71-29

10-19-2007, 07:41 PM	#7
Sirtalon Member Member since:Oct 2007	They are on drugs........................................

10-19-2007, 07:41 PM	#8
powerSURG Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Shaw AFB, SC Blu-ray collection:42	Wow, no mention of the 150 million dollar bribe... imagine that.

10-19-2007, 07:43 PM	#10
bkbluray Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:MN Home Theater Gallery:57 Blu-ray collection:185 Blu-ray reviews:25	Transformers one of the best movies ever made? Give me a break. I guess only because it's on DUD. I'm sure when Fox releases Star Wars on Blu he'll be saying, "Star Wars is the worst series of all time".

10-19-2007, 07:57 PM	#15
Proteus Power Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:SoCal PSN:CaptBurn	This post is so wrong I'm not sure why you even bothered to post it here (or why I'm even bothering to reply). The statements in the OP are so completely FALSE on every level it's disgusting and makes me seriously wonder about our education system and how such idiots can be let loose upon society. God bless freedom, I guess.

10-19-2007, 07:58 PM	#16
love blu or go home! Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:NYC, New York Trading Score:3	Well I do agree that he doesn't have all the facts, he makes a good point about disney trying to stop Transformers from beating blu-ray movies this week. I don't have a problem with that I did take advantage on the BOGO free deal. Just shows you how committed Disney is to blu, because Disney is paying the retailers the money they are discounted.

10-19-2007, 08:01 PM	#17
blu-rayfan101 Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:The Universe.	Wow, this is so sad wait untill after October and we will see what happens.

10-19-2007, 08:02 PM	#18
Luis_A51 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Calgary, AB Blu-ray reviews:4	The article is total crap. Hollow, without facts and obviously a shot at Sony and Disney. Must be a fanboy. Its really not even worth commenting on

10-19-2007, 08:08 PM	#19
RickD Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Maryland, USA Blu-ray collection:147	This guy is obviously just trying to piss people off. Did you see his blog before this one? "Islam is a Phony Religion" He must love hate mail. Rick

10-19-2007, 08:09 PM	#20
mfinochio Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Flagstaff, Arizona Blu-ray collection:103 Trading Score:79	It always amazes me how everyone hates Sony, yet they bow to MS. I think MS has a tad bit more of a monopoly than almost anyone is business today, but as Amir says everything they do is good enough. Michael

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