Will BLU have web-enabled content? - Blu-ray Forum

Copywriter · 11-18-2007, 04:02 AM

I'm not sure if it's even possible, but I know movies like Shrek the Third on HD DVD have web-enabled content and I'm wondering if BLU could do it (and if any movies are coming with it).

Maybe WE-content isn't required for what I'd like. On Shred the Third, there's a fact download. When you enable it and watch the movie, facts (about 300 total) pop up.

IMHO it's a fun feature for your second time through the movie--if you really like the film.

I suppose it could just be on the disc. So, anything like this coming?

BStecke · 11-18-2007, 04:03 AM

BD Live (profile 2.0) is supposed to be following shortly after profile 1.1 (which will be available by the end of the year in the PS3 and other players), which will be used for web-enabled content.

turboedguy · 11-18-2007, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Copywriter

I'm not sure if it's even possible, but I know movies like Shrek the Third on HD DVD have web-enabled content and I'm wondering if BLU could do it (and if any movies are coming with it).

Maybe WE-content isn't required for what I'd like. On Shred the Third, there's a fact download. When you enable it and watch the movie, facts (about 300 total) pop up.

IMHO it's a fun feature for your second time through the movie--if you really like the film.

I suppose it could just be on the disc. So, anything like this coming?

like you said, it could be on the disc, unless your disc only holds 30gb.

OokieSpookie · 11-18-2007, 04:06 AM

If I am not mistaken, pop up fact type things have been available on some releases for a while.
Web enabled content, not sure though I do not see why not.
I will say that in I do not know how many years that dvd has had web enabled content I have never once used it and do not see anything that would make me do it in the first place.
DO you know why HD has to have web enabled content?
Because it is things that they could not fit onto the disk.
Blu doesn't have that problem.
Do not make me go online to get shit, put it on my damned disk.
Sue me, I am lazy.

Copywriter · 11-18-2007, 04:15 AM

Right, I know it's a disc issue for HD DVD. But, it's a great way to let movies "live" on. And I'd love to see BLU releases use it.

I'm slowly becoming more of an extras guy now. Grrr.

I never cared until I watched the extra on Sky Captain (how they made the film). It was very interesting.

And the fact pops on Shrek (eww, dirty word) is cool.

Oh, and by web-enabled, I was talking about doing stuff like this on the player and not having to put the disc in your computer.

turboedguy · 11-18-2007, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copywriter

Right, I know it's a disc issue for HD DVD. But, it's a great way to let movies "live" on. And I'd love to see BLU releases use it.

I'm slowly becoming more of an extras guy now. Grrr.

I never cared until I watched the extra on Sky Captain (how they made the film). It was very interesting.

And the fact pops on Shrek (eww, dirty word) is cool.

Oh, and by web-enabled, I was talking about doing stuff like this on the player and not having to put the disc in your computer.

I dont think all blu 1.1 will have ethernet ports, but I think 2.0 will. of course PS3s all have ethernet but, "living on"? how many studios will update web features for old/previous releases? Not many, it takes too much time/money.
With the space of Blu, one set of features. Close encounters has three theatrical versions and tons and tons of extras(2 dics), How many hours of extras can one watch anyways? Already Cars and ratatoullie have games/extras that rival the best extras HD DVD has, and not even 1.1. I think the future is good for Blu-ray and its features web-enabled or not.

Copywriter · 11-18-2007, 04:34 AM

It's not so much video, it's fun stuff.

For instance, Shrek (dirty word again) has a Shrek coloring book coming via web content. Okay, yes, I'm not going to color. But my kids will.

My point is that with disc content, it's now or never. There's no adding after the fact. The web-enabled feature allows studios to do more and to evolve.

I'm just wondering about the "option" to do it and not trying to discuss what format is better or this or that. If nothing else, it could be a way to allow studios to fix or add to extra items on the disc.

turboedguy · 11-18-2007, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copywriter

It's not so much video, it's fun stuff.

For instance, Shrek (dirty word again) has a Shrek coloring book coming via web content. Okay, yes, I'm not going to color. But my kids will.

My point is that with disc content, it's now or never. There's no adding after the fact. The web-enabled feature allows studios to do more and to evolve.

I'm just wondering about the "option" to do it and not trying to discuss what format is better or this or that. If nothing else, it could be a way to allow studios to fix or add to extra items on the disc.

Try the cars game or the ratatouille game, my only point is that the studios wont keep updating these web features. After the movie is done making money, it wont be updated. And all can be done at time of release with blu-ray space. But Im sure we will see it.

Copywriter · 11-18-2007, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by turboedguy

Try the cars game or the ratatouille game, my only point is that the studios wont keep updating these web features. After the movie is done making money, it wont be updated. And all can be done at time of release with blu-ray space. But Im sure we will see it.

Oh I know that. Why would they keep updating?

Like I said, it just gives them an extra option during the "selling" phase. And I'll I want to really know is whether or not BLU can/will have the option.

Now, if we could just get HD extras and not 480p leftovers, we'd be perfect.

56@Yamamoto · 11-18-2007, 05:43 AM

Even profile1.1 only player can handle web based contents downloaded via PC to SD card etc. This fact was comfirmed by Panasonic and DENON.

mov9384ie · 11-18-2007, 06:29 AM

my speculation:

profile 2.0 will eventually be standard/mandatory

for enthusiasts, high quality video and audio is enough reason to buy into hdm. in order to appeal to the masses like j6p, interactivity is key.

right now the war is with hd-dvd so the focus is on things like studio support, ce support, shelf space, etc

when hd-dvd folds, the war will be with sd-dvd and convincing j6p to upgrade. that's when interactivity will become much more prominent in titles and profile 2.0 will become mandatory either by BDA decree or simply by consumer expectation

bajor27 · 11-18-2007, 06:34 AM

I don't remember all of the details but isn't National Treasure going to be a BD-Live disc with some sort of web enabled content?

mov9384ie · 11-18-2007, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Copywriter

Oh I know that. Why would they keep updating?

Like I said, it just gives them an extra option during the "selling" phase. And I'll I want to really know is whether or not BLU can/will have the option.

the common answer would be because it's a great way to advertise other products.

1) the trailers on a dvd can be updated for current times (ever watch an older dvd and see a trailer for a movie "coming soon to theatres" but it's already out on dvd?)

2) the biography pages can be updated. someone rents "pretty woman" and click on julia robert's info page. it shows her movie career but also says "Charlie Wilson's War" coming out in 2008

3) disney decides to do spinoff movie or tv show of sidekick from one of their movies XYZ. they upload a game for XYZ focusing on the sidekick to get kids more interested in that character.

etc

etc

oh, and because blu-ray is more programmable than hd-dvd and requires more on-board storage for profile 2.0 than hd-dvd it makes the possibilites quite endless, so they'll likely come up with things we're not thinking about today.

hd-dvd may brag about being feature complete, but it's also feature limited. in the long term blu-ray will show itself to be the better choice for interactivity just like it's already showing itself to be the better choice for audio&video quality (video bitrate being dipped into, audio languages being cut out, discs being filled to the brim with just the movie, etc)

lch · 11-18-2007, 08:47 AM

who is going to pay for hosting online content indefinitely ?
if i buy that titles 3-5 years after release from discount bin, am i still able to access the pop up or get a cross-out box ?

it's just a gimmick to let them brag about useless features.

Studio Support · 11-18-2007, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copywriter

I'm not sure if it's even possible, but I know movies like Shrek the Third on HD DVD have web-enabled content and I'm wondering if BLU could do it (and if any movies are coming with it).

Maybe WE-content isn't required for what I'd like. On Shred the Third, there's a fact download. When you enable it and watch the movie, facts (about 300 total) pop up.

IMHO it's a fun feature for your second time through the movie--if you really like the film.

I suppose it could just be on the disc. So, anything like this coming?

You will need web connectivity via an Ethernet port. And unfortunately it's still not a mandatory option for Blu-Ray stand alone players. Currently more than 95% of all Blu-Ray Stand Alone players do not have an Ethernet Port built in.

Profile 2.0 players should have this feature, but then again, the Ethernet port is not a mandatory option, so it will be up to the manufacture to have this feature needed to take advantage.

RUR · 11-18-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mov9384ie

the common answer would be because it's a great way to advertise other products.

Awesome, more advertising in my life. Please count me out.

w_tanoto · 11-18-2007, 03:28 PM

if I am not mistaken. narnia or nemo or sleeping beauty will have web-enabled content. It is planned for 2008

Kirsty_Mc · 11-18-2007, 03:33 PM

Hope not.

After a few years, pop a disc in and try to access some content only to get a 404 page not found error when the studio decides it is no longer worth keeping online or moves it's address.

Frode · 11-18-2007, 03:57 PM

Instead of people complaining/asking about web-enabled content, I'd like to see more suggestions for what exactly you want to use it for. The studios are certainly not going to bother using it unless they see a use-case that would fit.

Copywriter · 11-18-2007, 04:02 PM

Well, here's a fun fact about Shrek the Third on HD DVD that I saw.

So the movie was playing with the Shrek facts pops thing (web-enabled download content).

Part way through the movie it shut off and the screen said something about not having a license to play.

Well gee, that sucks.

11-18-2007, 04:02 AM	#1
Copywriter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Vegas Baby, Vegas	Will BLU have web-enabled content? I'm not sure if it's even possible, but I know movies like Shrek the Third on HD DVD have web-enabled content and I'm wondering if BLU could do it (and if any movies are coming with it). Maybe WE-content isn't required for what I'd like. On Shred the Third, there's a fact download. When you enable it and watch the movie, facts (about 300 total) pop up. IMHO it's a fun feature for your second time through the movie--if you really like the film. I suppose it could just be on the disc. So, anything like this coming?

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11-18-2007, 04:03 AM	#2
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	BD Live (profile 2.0) is supposed to be following shortly after profile 1.1 (which will be available by the end of the year in the PS3 and other players), which will be used for web-enabled content.

11-18-2007, 04:06 AM	#4
OokieSpookie Banned Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:1	If I am not mistaken, pop up fact type things have been available on some releases for a while. Web enabled content, not sure though I do not see why not. I will say that in I do not know how many years that dvd has had web enabled content I have never once used it and do not see anything that would make me do it in the first place. DO you know why HD has to have web enabled content? Because it is things that they could not fit onto the disk. Blu doesn't have that problem. Do not make me go online to get shit, put it on my damned disk. Sue me, I am lazy.

11-18-2007, 04:15 AM	#5
Copywriter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Vegas Baby, Vegas	Right, I know it's a disc issue for HD DVD. But, it's a great way to let movies "live" on. And I'd love to see BLU releases use it. I'm slowly becoming more of an extras guy now. Grrr. I never cared until I watched the extra on Sky Captain (how they made the film). It was very interesting. And the fact pops on Shrek (eww, dirty word) is cool. Oh, and by web-enabled, I was talking about doing stuff like this on the player and not having to put the disc in your computer.

11-18-2007, 04:34 AM	#7
Copywriter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Vegas Baby, Vegas	It's not so much video, it's fun stuff. For instance, Shrek (dirty word again) has a Shrek coloring book coming via web content. Okay, yes, I'm not going to color. But my kids will. My point is that with disc content, it's now or never. There's no adding after the fact. The web-enabled feature allows studios to do more and to evolve. I'm just wondering about the "option" to do it and not trying to discuss what format is better or this or that. If nothing else, it could be a way to allow studios to fix or add to extra items on the disc.

11-18-2007, 05:43 AM	#10
56@Yamamoto Active Member Member since:Nov 2006	Even profile1.1 only player can handle web based contents downloaded via PC to SD card etc. This fact was comfirmed by Panasonic and DENON.

11-18-2007, 06:29 AM	#11
mov9384ie Member Member since:Nov 2007	my speculation: profile 2.0 will eventually be standard/mandatory for enthusiasts, high quality video and audio is enough reason to buy into hdm. in order to appeal to the masses like j6p, interactivity is key. right now the war is with hd-dvd so the focus is on things like studio support, ce support, shelf space, etc when hd-dvd folds, the war will be with sd-dvd and convincing j6p to upgrade. that's when interactivity will become much more prominent in titles and profile 2.0 will become mandatory either by BDA decree or simply by consumer expectation

11-18-2007, 06:34 AM	#12
bajor27 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Location:BC, Canada Blu-ray collection:1031 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:5	I don't remember all of the details but isn't National Treasure going to be a BD-Live disc with some sort of web enabled content?

11-18-2007, 08:47 AM	#14
lch Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:103 Blu-ray collection:813 Blu-ray reviews:1	who is going to pay for hosting online content indefinitely ? if i buy that titles 3-5 years after release from discount bin, am i still able to access the pop up or get a cross-out box ? it's just a gimmick to let them brag about useless features.

11-18-2007, 03:28 PM	#17
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	if I am not mistaken. narnia or nemo or sleeping beauty will have web-enabled content. It is planned for 2008

11-18-2007, 03:33 PM	#18
Kirsty_Mc Power Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:UK Blu-ray collection:536 Blu-ray reviews: 21	Hope not. After a few years, pop a disc in and try to access some content only to get a 404 page not found error when the studio decides it is no longer worth keeping online or moves it's address.

11-18-2007, 03:57 PM	#19
Frode Special Member Member since:Feb 2007	Instead of people complaining/asking about web-enabled content, I'd like to see more suggestions for what exactly you want to use it for. The studios are certainly not going to bother using it unless they see a use-case that would fit.

11-18-2007, 04:02 PM	#20
Copywriter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Vegas Baby, Vegas	Well, here's a fun fact about Shrek the Third on HD DVD that I saw. So the movie was playing with the Shrek facts pops thing (web-enabled download content). Part way through the movie it shut off and the screen said something about not having a license to play. Well gee, that sucks.

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