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Old 12-14-2007, 03:36 PM   #1
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Everybody knows that on the website of "The Product Wars fought on Amazon.com", there is a graph showing how many times the word Blu-ray is searched on Google, compared to HD DVD ( http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/ )... But we all know that the results are biaised because they only look for one way to write it !

I found a way to compare ALL the different way to spell the two technologies, and the result is, obviously, more logical !

here it is !

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%28bl...ate=ytd&sort=0

It's better, isn't it ?
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:40 PM   #2
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much better, thanks for this, perhaps forward this to the eproductwars people.
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:44 PM   #3
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I made a thread about this a long time ago... but didn't include all the wacky spelling variations of each format. That gives much better results, nice work!
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:49 PM   #4
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Nice Job!
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:51 PM   #5
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Aahh, that seems more like it... I knew there was something screwy with that.

All the new PS3 owners are looking up Blu-ray to decide what they want to buy for movies.
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:53 PM   #6
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What does the chart represent...???

Based on what I see when I click on the link...this chart is no better than any other biased chart.

Where are the 9-1 or 7-3 ratios?

Nielsen's the only way to go...
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:53 PM   #7
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excellent graph. its accurate, and unbiased.
good job.
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:54 PM   #8
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What does the chart represent...???

Based on what I see when I click on the link...this chart is no better than any other biased chart.

Where are the 9-1 or 7-3 ratios?

Nielsen's the only way to go...
The chart represents web search interest. its a snapshot on what people are thinking. Its not comparable to Nielsen numbers.
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:55 PM   #9
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Everybody knows that on the website of "The Product Wars fought on Amazon.com", there is a graph showing how many times the word Blu-ray is searched on Google, compared to HD DVD ( http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/ )... But we all know that the results are biaised because they only look for one way to write it !

I found a way to compare ALL the different way to spell the two technologies, and the result is, obviously, more logical !

here it is !

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%28bl...ate=ytd&sort=0

It's better, isn't it ?
Nice work. I wish everyone took such care with their usage of data.

Too bad that major media outlets don't actually care about the accuracy or integrity of their data, only the story they want to tell.
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:56 PM   #10
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What does the chart represent...???

Based on what I see when I click on the link...this chart is no better than any other biased chart.

Where are the 9-1 or 7-3 ratios?

Nielsen's the only way to go...
This is based on # of Google-based searched not on actual sales.
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Old 12-14-2007, 03:57 PM   #11
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You do realize that chart shows HD-DVD winning in japan, right?
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Old 12-14-2007, 05:15 PM   #12
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Actually, as far as I can tell, the chart shows HD-DVD winning pretty much everywhere.

So, how's this supposed to help a Blu cause?
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Old 12-14-2007, 05:19 PM   #13
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Actually, as far as I can tell, the chart shows HD-DVD winning pretty much everywhere.
What chart are you looking at?! lol
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Old 12-14-2007, 05:26 PM   #14
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Actually, as far as I can tell, the chart shows HD-DVD winning pretty much everywhere.

So, how's this supposed to help a Blu cause?
How exactly do you get that from a chart that shows blu winning everywhere? You're probably looking at the worng graph. The OP was deriding the first chart as inaccurate then created there own which is more accurate. Read the right one.
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Old 12-14-2007, 05:28 PM   #15
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You do realize that chart shows HD-DVD winning in japan, right?
It isn't really about "winning" it's a gauge of curiousity based on internet searches. In Japan there could be several anomalies. 1) Blu is dominant there so maybe people are searching because they already know about blu and truly wonder what HD-DVD even is... how many Americans Google McDonald's or WalMart? 2) Google is not the prime search engine in Japan so their numbers may be off.
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Old 12-14-2007, 05:50 PM   #16
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How exactly do you get that from a chart that shows blu winning everywhere? You're probably looking at the worng graph. The OP was deriding the first chart as inaccurate then created there own which is more accurate. Read the right one.
I'm looking at the second link that was supposed to be more accurate. For every country, every city, and every language, I'm seeing a rather long red bar and a rather short blue bar. On the total for the past 12 months, it shows consistently the HD-DVD bar far above the blu.

Here's a screenshot:

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And a close-up of the total:

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So, as you see, the red is clearly winning over all the blue.

Unless I'm reading it seriously wrong and the numbers closer to 0 are the winners... but as far as I know, the chart is plotting number of searches, not ranks.
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Old 12-14-2007, 06:34 PM   #17
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I'm totally not seeing that.
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Old 12-14-2007, 06:50 PM   #18
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I'm looking at the second link that was supposed to be more accurate. For every country, every city, and every language, I'm seeing a rather long red bar and a rather short blue bar. On the total for the past 12 months, it shows consistently the HD-DVD bar far above the blu.

Here's a screenshot:

Attachment 1154

And a close-up of the total:

Attachment 1155

So, as you see, the red is clearly winning over all the blue.

Unless I'm reading it seriously wrong and the numbers closer to 0 are the winners... but as far as I know, the chart is plotting number of searches, not ranks.
You need to put the parenthesis back around the search terms.
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Old 12-14-2007, 06:52 PM   #19
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I'm looking at the second link that was supposed to be more accurate. For every country, every city, and every language, I'm seeing a rather long red bar and a rather short blue bar. On the total for the past 12 months, it shows consistently the HD-DVD bar far above the blu.

Here's a screenshot:

Attachment 1154

And a close-up of the total:

Attachment 1155

So, as you see, the red is clearly winning over all the blue.

Unless I'm reading it seriously wrong and the numbers closer to 0 are the winners... but as far as I know, the chart is plotting number of searches, not ranks.
As the other guy said, you've obviously done something to the search criteria to botch the results, not saying it was intentional. None of us gets that when we just click the link and look at it. It shows the opposite... just like everyone is telling you.
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Old 12-14-2007, 06:57 PM   #20
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HD-DVD has the top 10 and top 25....but BD smokes them in the top 100 sales...

we win because we have an impact in the top 100 sales being that we don't rely on a select number of titles for a win....we have what people call a library of quality options
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